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Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 37 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 8:52 pm: |      |
Gonna attempt a scrundish one: As a child, she had a scrund which had been imposed on her by her father. As an adult, she realized why. Kind of a scrund +, this, I suppose: what was the scrund and why was it imposed on her? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4658 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 9:06 pm: |      |
Her: H/A/F? Currently alive? Is she related to you? Or someone you know personally? Is she someone famous? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 39 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 9:31 pm: |      |
Her: H/A/F? yes Currently alive? yes Is she related to you? no, irr. Or someone you know personally? yes, but irr. Is she someone famous? not at all, irr. |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 40 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 9:34 pm: |      |
Her: H/A/F? yes Currently alive? yes Is she related to you? no, irr. Or someone you know personally? yes, but irr. Is she someone famous? not at all, irr. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4659 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 9:36 pm: |      |
was the scrund about a thing? if so, was it a tangible thing? an intangible thing? something that could be felt? heard? smelled? touched? tasted? a person? if so, a famous person? an infamous/notorious person? a person she knew? about her father? an event? if event, an event that had taken place in her father's lifetime, but not hers? or when she was too young to remember it? was it something historical, or something personally related to her father and/or her? or to her family generally? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 41 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 9:47 pm: |      |
oops, didn't mean to post the same thing twice there. sorry.. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4660 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 9:49 pm: |      |
just so long as you don't miss my questions! |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 42 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 10:07 pm: |      |
was the scrund about a thing? noish if so, was it a tangible thing? an intangible thing? something that could be felt? heard? smelled? touched? tasted? a person? no if so, a famous person? an infamous/notorious person? a person she knew? about her father? an event? no if event, an event that had taken place in her father's lifetime, but not hers? or when she was too young to remember it? was it something historical, or something personally related to her father and/or her? or to her family generally? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 381 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 11:27 pm: |      |
Was it, in general terms, a belief imposed by her father to ensure her good behavior? Or "for her own good"? |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 833 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 11:41 pm: |      |
Did her father impose it on her to protect her? Or himself? Someone else? Is the mother relevant? As an adult, is she grateful for what her father did? Would she have done the same thing? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 45 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 11:42 pm: |      |
Was it, in general terms, a belief imposed by her father to ensure her good behavior? yesish, DOYD of good behavior Or "for her own good"? no, wouldn't say that |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4668 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 12:01 am: |      |
a belief imposed to ensure she would obey him, whether his motives were what we would call good, or not? (don't forget Quovynyte's questions =)) |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 2182 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 12:01 pm: |      |
was it something designed to keep her safe? like saying there are crocodiles in the river so that she won't get too close and fall in? is it to do with people? places? a place? a time of day? darkness? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 48 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 8:52 pm: |      |
Did her father impose it on her to protect her? Or himself? Someone else? no Is the mother relevant? no As an adult, is she grateful for what her father did? not really Would she have done the same thing? I really don't know - if I were to guess I would say no a belief imposed to ensure she would obey him, whether his motives were what we would call good, or not? not obey him in general no, but he did want her to act accordingly in regards to the subject of this scrund was it something designed to keep her safe? no like saying there are crocodiles in the river so that she won't get too close and fall in? hehe, no is it to do with people? places? a place? a time of day? darkness? no to all of these, I believe, except if you count a very vague connection to places, but that will probably confuse more than clarify |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 385 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 9:13 pm: |      |
Is the scrund related to rules of ettiquette? moral rules? "scientific" rules (however loosely interpreted), "medical" rules (ditto) just general advice? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 53 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 9:26 pm: |      |
Is the scrund related to rules of ettiquette? no moral rules? no "scientific" rules (however loosely interpreted exactly how loosely do you want me to interpret it? strictly speaking, EVERYTHING has to do with scientific rules - but I'll say no and add the slightest of ish'es), "medical" rules (ditto) no just general advice? noish |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 837 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 9:37 pm: |      |
Does the scrund involve: the law? money? health? education? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
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Post Number: 54 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 10:13 pm: |      |
Does the scrund involve: the law? money? health? education? no to all |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 2190 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 2:37 pm: |      |
was it about drugs? that all drugs are harmful? I once babysat two delightful little girls aged 7 and 5 who told me that all drugs are harmful and that they were not allowed to go to their friends' parties in case someone had put drugs in the birthday cake |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
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Post Number: 62 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 6:41 am: |      |
was it about drugs? that all drugs are harmful? nothing to do with drugs, no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 15391 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 1:50 pm: |      |
Did the father intentionally give her the scrund? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
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Post Number: 63 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 2:17 pm: |      |
Did the father intentionally give her the scrund? yes |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 15396 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 6:24 pm: |      |
Is a fictitious creature (like a monster) relevant? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
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Post Number: 66 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 7:52 pm: |      |
Is a fictitious creature (like a monster) relevant? no |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 395 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 2:46 am: |      |
Is the title relevant? "Father should know" because he had done - whatever - himself? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 2201 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 10:38 am: |      |
was the scrund that father always knows best? knows everything? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 70 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 4:55 pm: |      |
Is the title relevant? "Father should know" because he had done - whatever - himself? the title is only relevant in implying that her father should - and indeed did - know that What he told his daughter wasn't true was the scrund that father always knows best? knows everything? everything? Hehe, no, I think he tried that too; though |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 15415 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 1:45 am: |      |
Was his intent to scare her? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 72 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 10:40 am: |      |
Was his intent to scare her? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 15430 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 2:45 pm: |      |
Is it relevant how the scrund was cured? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 81 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2011 - 11:44 am: |      |
Is it relevant how the scrund was cured? hmm, it's not necessary for you to figure that out, but it might help - the scrund was cured in the way I suppose most scrunds are cured |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 147 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 10:53 am: |      |
Since this puzzle seems to have gone a bit dead, I'll do a recap: As a child, she (H/A/F) had a scrund which had been imposed on her by her father (H/A/M). As an adult, she (same person) realized why. She is currently alive, but is not famous. Her father intentionally gave her the scrund, aware that what he told her wasn't true. He kind of did it to ensure her good behaviour, DOYD of good behaviour. He did want her to act in a specific way in regards to the subject of the scrund. He did not mean to scare her. The scrund was not about a person or an event, the closest anyone has come yet to the subject is "a thing", but that's not quite right either (and I believe working this out would be a good road to follow from here). (Fictous creatures, monsters and drugs are all irrelevant) |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 15591 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 12:04 pm: |      |
Was it about an animal? Another living thing? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
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Post Number: 149 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 1:03 pm: |      |
Was it about an animal? yes indeed Another living thing? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 4779 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 3:28 pm: |      |
kittehz and if they can haz cheezburgur??? =) |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
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Post Number: 155 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 4:46 pm: |      |
kittehz and if they can haz cheezburgur??? =) no, not kittehz this time. but you just gave me a craving for cheezburgurs... ;) |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
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Post Number: 893 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 5:02 pm: |      |
Was the animal: mammal? bird? fish? reptile? insect? amphibians? arachnids? crustacean? other? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
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Post Number: 159 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 5:07 pm: |      |
Was the animal: mammal? bird? fish? this reptile? insect? amphibians? arachnids? crustacean? other? |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 894 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 5:24 pm: |      |
Was it a pet that she had? Like a goldfish? Catching fish relevant? Eating fish? Shellfish? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
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Post Number: 162 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 7:19 pm: |      |
Was it a pet that she had? no Like a goldfish? so no Catching fish relevant? ah, YES! good q! Eating fish? no Shellfish? no |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 2268 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 11:02 am: |      |
did he tell her that the fish would hear if she made a noise? to keep her quiet? |
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 2283 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 1:30 pm: |      |
did he tell her that the fish didn't suffer? having a hook through their lip? or not being able to breathe out of the water? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
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Post Number: 182 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 9:43 am: |      |
So sorry I've been gone for so long and this has taken me an eternity to answer! Here goes! did he tell her that the fish would hear if she made a noise? yes! to keep her quiet? and YES!! nicely done! no to rest! |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
New member Username: Jondahr
Post Number: 183 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 9:48 am: |      |
*****SPOILER***** As a child, she used to go fishing with her father. She was a very talkative little girl, and in an attempt to keep her silent for a while, her father told her that speaking while fishing scared the fish away. As an adult, she went fishing and tried to pass this information on (to me, actually). When she was met with a puzzled look, it dawned on her that her father might have told her this just to shut her up. Thanks for playing, and congrats to Shez on nailing it! :D |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 3716 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 12:15 pm: |      |
Interesting puzzle Jondahr. I'm a keen angler and I always try and stay as quiet as possible. Trout are particularly sensitive to noise in my experience although my favourite quarry the Pike are less so. In fact fish are more likely to be put off by bright clothing and can be spooked if they rise to the surface and spot you. So you should cam up where possible. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 2335 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 10:59 pm: |      |
interesting - I was certainly told the same thing so maybe I was a talkative little girl. whenever my family were walking by a river or canal where there were anglers, we would always keep ultra quiet - maybe we were more worried about the anglers than the fish! |