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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 3:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I passed through the kitchen and let out a groan. Seconds later, the door opened and the lights turned on.

I = me (Balin)
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Your kitchen?
Did you groan because of: something you saw? heard? felt? thought of?
Did you hurt yourself?
The door of the kitchen opened?
A burglar relevant?
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Your kitchen? No
Did you groan because of: something you saw? This heard? felt? thought of? No to rest
Did you hurt yourself? No
The door of the kitchen opened? No
A burglar relevant? No, with a slight -ish
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I love the title! "We gon' find you, we gon' find you..."

Did the lights in the kitchen turn on? Or in another room? When the lights turned on, were you in the kitchen?
Did you groan because of frustration? Anger? Disgust? Discouragement? Fear? Something else?
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Did the door open and lights turn on because you let out the groan? Or would they have happened anyway?
Were you trying to escape from a house? Were you going to do something in the kitchen? Is any kitchen appliance relevant, or food?
Did the person who opened the door turn on the lights? Did you know him/her? Was it their house?
Was it dark in the kitchen? Was it night time?
Was the thing you saw: A person? Animal? Writing? An object? A mirror?
Did you groan because: The thing you saw prevented you from doing something, or made doing something harder? Or because it would cause something to happen which you did not want? Or did it look unpleasant?
Was it in a house? The front door of the house? Back door?
Balin (Balin)
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I love the title! "We gon' find you, we gon' find you..." =)

Actually, the title is even more appropriate for this puzzle than I realized.


Did the lights in the kitchen turn on? No Or in another room? Yes When the lights turned on, were you in the kitchen? No
Did you groan because of frustration? Yes, but very lighthearted frustration Anger? Disgust? Discouragement? Fear? Something else? A little bit of this too. No to the rest

Did the door open and lights turn on because you let out the groan? No Or would they have happened anyway? Yes
Were you trying to escape from a house? No Were you going to do something in the kitchen? No Is any kitchen appliance relevant, or food? No
Did the person who opened the door turn on the lights? Yes Did you know him/her? Yes (and it was a her) Was it their house? No
Was it dark in the kitchen? Yes, but not that dark Was it night time? It was
Was the thing you saw: A person? This Animal? Writing? An object? A mirror?
Did you groan because: The thing you saw prevented you from doing something, or made doing something harder? No Or because it would cause something to happen which you did not want? Yesish Or did it look unpleasant? No
Was it in a house? Yes The front door of the house? Yes Back door? No
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Was this a Halloween prank? some other kind of prank?
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Was this a Halloween prank? No some other kind of prank? Some other prank was involved, yes
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Was it a surprise party?
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Was it a surprise party? No
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Did someone climb in your windows? Snatch your people up? Try to rape them? Did you hide your kids? Hide your wife? Hide your husband?

Were any confessions made? Were you looking for someone/ something? Did you find someone/ something? Did you run and tell that, homeboy? ;P
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Did someone climb in your windows? Not my window, but yes! Snatch your people up? Try to rape them? Did you hide your kids? Hide your wife? Hide your husband? No to the rest, though people hiding (-ish) is relevant

Were any confessions made? No, slight -ish Were you looking for someone/ something? No Did you find someone/ something? No Did you run and tell that, homeboy? ;P No, and no T-shirts or fingerprints are relevant, either ;-)
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So someone sneaked in your house? To play a prank on you? Relevant how you know the person? If so, girlfriend? mother? friend? sister? other female relative? Relevant that you had passed through the kitchen and not some other room? Does your front door open to a living room? relevant? Was the person who opened the door the only other relevant person in the puzzle? Did the prank leave a mess?
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So someone sneaked in your house? Yes, but again, it was not my house To play a prank on you? No Relevant how you know the person? The one who opened the door? Yope If so, girlfriend? mother? friend? sister? other female relative? I did not know her at the time Relevant that you had passed through the kitchen and not some other room? Not particularly Does the front door open to a living room? Yes relevant? Not really Was the person who opened the door the only other relevant person in the puzzle? No! Did the prank leave a mess? No
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Was the one that opened the door the person that owned the house?
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Was the one that opened the door the person that owned the house? No!
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Relevant how old you were at the time?
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Relevant where the house's owner was? Was he/she in the house at the time?
Are you a friend of the owner? Relative?
Is the person who turned on the light a friend of the owner? Relative? Did they know eachother?
Did the window-climber know any of you? Was he/she breaking into the house?
Neighbours relevant?
Relevant what you were doing at night?
Was the person who opened the door surprised to see you? Did she see you?
Was the person you saw the window-climber?
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were you the one who opened the door?
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Relevant how old you were at the time? Not really. This happened last year, say around this time of the year, but that's not really relevant

Relevant where the house's owner was? Yes Was he/she in the house at the time? Yes, he was
Are you a friend of the owner? Yes Relative? No
Is the person who turned on the light a friend of the owner? Assume yes Relative? No Did they know eachother? Assume yes
Did the window-climber know any of you? She knew some, but not all, of us Was he/she breaking into the house? She was, with a slight -ish
Neighbours relevant? No
Relevant what you were doing at night? Yes
Was the person who opened the door surprised to see you? No Did she see you? Yes
Was the person you saw the window-climber? Yes

were you the one who opened the door? No
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Were you in on the prank? Were you the victim of the prank? Were you an observer? Did you try and stop the pranksters?
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Were you in on the prank? Yes Were you the victim of the prank? No Were you an observer? Yope -- I knew about it, and was present the entire time, but did not directly take part Did you try and stop the pranksters? No
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The person that opened the door- the victim of the prank?
The window climber- you? the person that opened the door? someone else in on the prank?

Did you intend to scare the person who was coming in? Did someone else show up unexpectedly? Were you surprised to see this person?
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The person that opened the door- the victim of the prank? One of them, yes
The window climber- you? No the person that opened the door? Yes someone else in on the prank? No

Did you intend to scare the person who was coming in? No Did someone else show up unexpectedly? No Were you surprised to see this person? Yopish. Don't focus on this idea
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Was the other victim present already? Does the prank involve any props?
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Was the other victim present already? FA, and Yesish/Yope Does the prank involve any props? Yes
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The props- one? two? less than 10? less than 20? less than 100?
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The props- one? two? less than 10? less than 20? less than 100? Around 10
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All the same prop? Different props? Some same and some different?
Any food items? living things? toys? liquids? things typically found around a house? something purchased at a specialty store (like those old whoopee cushions)?
Loud noises involved? Did the prank cause the person to have to climb in the window? Did the person successfully make it in the house?
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All the same prop? Different props? Some same and some different? They were different props
Any food items? No living things? No toys? I don't think so liquids? No things typically found around a house? YES/YESISH! something purchased at a specialty store (like those old whoopee cushions)? No
Loud noises involved? No Did the prank cause the person to have to climb in the window? Yopish Did the person successfully make it in the house? Yes
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Things found in a kitchen? toiletries? anything made primarily of fabric? of paper? of metal? anything one would typically discard (empty cans, for example)? anything that requires electricity? any office supplies? gardening items? items related to personal vehicles? anything that is primarily used as decoration?
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cheezburgur? =) *hopeful*

I'z sleepy kitteh...iz erlee, but iz sleepy anywai...nite, balin kitteh...nite, ciaobella kitteh!
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Things found in a kitchen? toiletries? anything made primarily of fabric? of paper? of metal? anything one would typically discard (empty cans, for example)? anything that requires electricity? any office supplies? gardening items? items related to personal vehicles? anything that is primarily used as decoration? cheezburgur? What the items specifically were is irrelevant
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was it about moving a lot of things from one room to another? or piling them up in one place?
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was it about moving a lot of things from one room YOPE to another? Yes or piling them up in one place? Yesish/Yope
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making a barricade? piling things up so they would fall down with a crash?
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Hm... once, when a co-worker with a sense of fun left for a holiday, I covered every bit of her cubicle with sticky notes. The next time I was away, I returned to find my cubicle full of balloons (the doorway had been covered with plastic wrap). Is it anything like this?
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making a barricade? No piling things up so they would fall down with a crash? No

Hm... once, when a co-worker with a sense of fun left for a holiday, I covered every bit of her cubicle with sticky notes. The next time I was away, I returned to find my cubicle full of balloons (the doorway had been covered with plastic wrap). Is it anything like this? Only in one minor aspect, but mainly nothing like this.

I'm fairly certain you have at least one FA.
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I want to be clear in my own mind... Was this about somebody entering a room which should be familiar, but wasn't?

Great Halloweenish puzzle, although I expect it will turn out not to be. I like you lots, Balin, but am not at all sure that I have a sense of who you really are.

Thanks for always posting great puzzles!
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I want to be clear in my own mind... Was this about somebody entering a room which should be familiar, but wasn't? No

Great Halloweenish puzzle, although I expect it will turn out not to be. I like you lots, Balin, but am not at all sure that I have a sense of who you really are.

Thanks for always posting great puzzles! I'm glad you like them!
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Relevant why the person tried to climb in the window? If so, was the door locked? Was it blocked in some way? Relevant which window?

The FA relates to-
-the victim(s)?
-the prankster(s)?
-the prank itself?
-the door?
-the window?
-the items?
-something else entirely?
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Relevant why the person tried to climb in the window? Yes If so, was the door locked? Was it blocked in some way? Yes to both, but there's more. Relevant which window? Something about the window is relevant, yes.

The FA relates to-
-the victim(s)? Noish/Yope
-the prankster(s)? Noish/Yope
-the prank itself? Yope
-the door? No
-the window? No
-the items? Yope
-something else entirely? Mainly this though
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Was there anything unusual on the outside of the door (such as a sign or another barricade)?

Was the person that walked in the door an intended victim? or someone who stumbled upon the prank?
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Was there anything unusual on the outside of the door (such as a sign or another barricade)? No

Was the person that walked in the door FA-ish an intended victim? Yes or someone who stumbled upon the prank? No
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So the person opened the door but did not walk through? Or was the victim not the one that opened the door?
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So the person opened the door but did not walk through? Yes, but you have the same FA as last post: that they walked in through the door. Or was the victim not the one that opened the door? One of the victims was the person who climbed through the window and the person who opened the door.
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Oh, so the person walked out the door?
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Oh, so the person walked out the door? No, which means there was a slight BLOOPER in my last post: The person who opened the door did not, in fact, walk through it.
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Then am I correct in my understanding that the person climbed in the window and opened the door but did not go through it?

Did the person who opened the door have to unlock it first? Was there another person waiting on the other side of the door?
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Then am I correct in my understanding that the person climbed in the window and opened the door but did not go through it? Yes

Did the person who opened the door have to unlock it first? Yes Was there another person waiting on the other side of the door? There were several other people!
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Did you arrive early? Get in the house somehow? Lock the door from the inside? Barricade it? The group of people arrived and could not get in? One of them climbed into the window to unlock the door? Is that right so far?
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Did you arrive early? No, slight -ish Get in the house somehow? I was inside Lock the door from the inside? Yes Barricade it? I don't think we did The group of people Which? arrived and could not get in? Yes for one of them One of them climbed into the window to unlock the door? Yes for the same group Is that right so far? In some ways
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Was the one that lived there the victim? the prankster? Or was there at least one resident in each category?
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Was the one that lived there the victim? the prankster? The one who lived there was the main prankster. Or was there at least one resident in each category? There were multiple victims and multiple pranksters. All of the pranksters were in the house (though not all lived there).
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Every time I come back to this puzzle I get that song running through my head. Anyway, let me think on it before I add anymore questions.
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wut song iz dis, Ciaobella kitteh? Kaylee kitteh doez nawt get teh refrunce! =( *haz a sad*
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Kaylee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw
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Did the pranksters make the victims go out of the house for some reason? And then locked the door? Or was the door locked before the victims came to the scene?
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Did the pranksters make the victims go out of the house for some reason? No And then locked the door? No Or was the door locked before the victims came to the scene? Yes
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Were victims invited? Did the pranksters pretend they're not at home?
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Were victims invited? No Did the pranksters pretend they're not at home? We did but that wasn't really part (or only a small part) of the prank.

By the way, all the pranksters were HAM, and all the victims were HAF. Not sure if that will help you, but it might.
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was it a raid on a sorority house? a girls' dorm? probably irrelevant but I'm just nosey
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was it a raid Not a panty raid, but very OTRT on a sorority house? Close! It was a house that 5 girls live in, but not a sorority house a girls' dorm? No probably irrelevant but I'm just nosey Actually, it was very relevant!
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wow! I thought that just happened in the movies - a real slice of americana!

did we establish why you groaned? was it because you'd been discovered?
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wow! I thought that just happened in the movies - a real slice of americana! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panty_raid -- remember, though, this was not a panty raid

did we establish why you groaned? Not yet was it because you'd been discovered? Yope -- OTRT
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did you groan because you'd just done something which would lead to your discovery? like bumping into something? knocking something over? dropping something?
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did you groan because you'd just done something which would lead to your discovery? No like bumping into something? knocking something over? dropping something? None of these
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*gasp* you wouldn't...raid their cheeseburgers?!
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*gasp* you wouldn't...raid their cheeseburgers?! No.

There's a lot of loose information floating around, so to try and help you out, here's a RECAP:

I passed through the kitchen and let out a groan. Seconds later, the door opened and the lights turned on.

You have established that:
-This takes place at a house. The owner of the house was male and inside.
-The person (female) who opened the door and turned on the lights had entered through a window. When she opened the door, some other girls were waiting outside.
-This is related to a prank that a group of guys (including myself) had pulled on a group of girls who lived at another house. We raided their house and swiped a few knick-knacks.
-My groan isn't because we were discovered (aka "not because they had realized that it was us who had snatched the objects"), but that guess was OTRT.

You should be able to put a few things together now.
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Were the girls playing a prank on YOU (and the other guys) in retaliation for you raiding their cheezburgurz (or whatever?) Is the "whatever" important to deduce? Did THEY steal something from you?
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Were the girls playing a prank on YOU (and the other guys) in retaliation for you raiding their cheezburgurz (or whatever?) No Is the "whatever" important to deduce? No. I've stated that it was just a few knick-knacks. Did THEY steal something from you? No
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Did the girls want to retrieve their belongings?
Did you expect the girls to come?
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Did the girls want to retrieve their belongings? Yes!!
Did you expect the girls to come? Yes!!
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was it their belongings then which were piled up somewhere?
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was it their belongings then Yes which were piled up somewhere? Yope
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were you all lying in wait for them?

was the groan supposed to scare them?
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were you all lying in wait for them? Noish/Yope

was the groan supposed to scare them? No
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Did the prank work out? Did you expect a girl coming through the window? Did you expect turning on the lights?
Were the stolen belongings in the house?
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Did the prank work out? Yes, slight -ish Did you expect a girl coming through the window? No Did you expect turning on the lights? Once she came in, yes
Were the stolen belongings in the house? Yes
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Was the groan intentional? Or did it happen somewhat involuntarily? If the latter is true, were you in pain? embarrassed? experiencing some other feeling that would elicit a groan?
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Was the groan intentional? Or did it happen somewhat involuntarily? More this If the latter is true, were you in pain? embarrassed? experiencing some other feeling that would elicit a groan? Annoyed
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Annoyed at the girls? at your fellow pranksters? at someone else? Yourself? the situation?
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Annoyed at the girls? at your fellow pranksters? at someone else? Yourself? the situation? I guess this
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Were you annoyed because of the time the girls returned? Were there going to be unforeseen consequences? Is the room in which the window is located relevant?
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Were you annoyed because of the time the girls returned? Noish Were there going to be unforeseen consequences? No Is the room in which the window is located relevant? Yesish
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Bath? Bed? Living room? Kitchen?
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Bath? Bed? Living room? Kitchen? It was in a small hallway/alcove off the kitchen.
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I take it you saw the "intruder" when you passed through the kitchen? Did you groan before you saw her? as soon as you saw her? sometime afterward?
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I take it you saw the "intruder" when you passed through the kitchen? Yes Did you groan before you saw her? as soon as you saw her? This sometime afterward?
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Was there anything in the house that the girls should not see? Were you not prepared for their entering the house at that moment?
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Was there anything in the house that the girls Yes should not see? Noish/Yope Were you not prepared for their entering the house at that moment? Yope
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were you not quite ready for them to return?
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were you not quite ready for them to return? No; you may have a slight FA
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Did you hide the stolen belongings somewhere in the house? Did the "intruder" happened to enter through the window of the room where the belongings were stored?
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Did you hide the stolen belongings somewhere in the house? Yes Did the "intruder" happened to enter through the window of the room where the belongings were stored? No
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Could you please recap? I got stuck and cannot come up with any question that makes sense...

Were the girls supposed to enter the house some other way? Were the girls supposed not to enter the house at all? Did the girls behave smarter than supposed? Less smart?
Was the girl who came through the window dressed somehow relevant? Was she carrying something relevant? Did the girls take some of your belongings as a revenge?
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Could you please recap? I got stuck and cannot come up with any question that makes sense... Sure.

RECAP:

There's a lot of loose information floating around, so to try and help you out, here's a RECAP:

I passed through the kitchen and let out a groan. Seconds later, the door opened and the lights turned on.

You have established that:
-This takes place at a house. The owner of the house was male and inside.
-The person (female) who opened the door and turned on the lights had entered through a window. When she opened the door, some other girls were waiting outside.
-This is related to a prank that a group of guys (including myself) had pulled on a group of girls who lived at another house. We raided their house and swiped a few knick-knacks.
-My groan isn't because we were discovered (aka "not because they had realized that it was us who had snatched the objects"), but that guess was OTRT.
-The girls had come to retrieve their belongings, which we had hid inside the house.
-We knew they would assume it was us that had swiped their stuff and expected them to come.

Hopefully that helps.


Were the girls supposed to enter the house some other way? No Were the girls supposed not to enter the house at all? YESISH Did the girls behave smarter than supposed? Yesish Less smart? No
Was the girl who came through the window dressed somehow relevant? Was she carrying something relevant? Did the girls take some of your belongings as a revenge? No to all
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were you planning to do something with the items? did you expect them to come at a later date or time?
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were you planning to do something with the items? No did you expect them to come at a later date or time? No!!
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Did you expect the girls to be able to retrieve their items by themselves? Did you plan to make them do something/ say something/ etc. to get their items back?
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Did you expect the girls to come earlier?
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Did you expect the girls to be able to retrieve their items by themselves? Yes Did you plan to make them do something/ say something/ etc. to get their items back? No

Did you expect the girls to come earlier? Noish

There is a key phrase in the puzzle statement that will help you.
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Relevant that the lights turned on? Relevant what you were doing when they arrived?
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did you groan because you weren't quite ready for them? were you planning a further joke when they came to get their stuff?
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Relevant that the lights turned on? YES Relevant what you were doing when they arrived? Yes

did you groan because you weren't quite ready for them? Noish were you planning a further joke when they came to get their stuff? No
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Is it relevant that it was dark? Did you make an outside installation with the stolen items and the girls didn't see it because of the darkness?
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did they come to do more than get their stuff back?
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Is it relevant that it was dark? Yes Did you make an outside installation with the stolen items and the girls didn't see it because of the darkness? No

did they come to do more than get their stuff back? No
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HINT: You are very close to the solution.

Remember, we took the items back to the house. When we were in the house, the lights were off and stayed off. Why?
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Did you pretend you were not in the house? Did you want the girls not to see the items? Would the items be visible from outside if it was not dark? Is it relevant where the items were before you took them back to the house?
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Did you pretend you were not in the house? YES!! Did you want the girls not to see the items? No... Would the items be visible from outside if it was not dark? No Is it relevant where the items were before you took them back to the house? Well, they were in the girls' house. That's the only relevant bit.

Just put all the pieces together now and we're set!
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2011 - 11:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, so you visited girls' house, took some stuff and came to one of the boys' houses. You expected the girls to come and retrieve their belongings and you pretended you were not in the house (you kept all the ligths off). But one of the girls entered the house through the window, turned on the lights and let her colleagues in, which is what you hadn't expect.
Is anything missing?
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 16123
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2011 - 1:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, so you visited girls' house, took some stuff and came to one of the boys' houses. You expected the girls to come and retrieve their belongings and you pretended you were not in the house (you kept all the ligths off). But one of the girls entered the house through the window, turned on the lights and let her colleagues in, which is what you hadn't expect. Pretty much dead-on.
Is anything missing? Only one little bit, but I'll explain in the

**********SPOILER***********

Last year, my small group visited one of the off-campus houses that some girls we knew lived in and snagged a few items for fun. We brought the items back to our leader's house and hid the items, turning off all the lights and locking the doors and windows in order to pretend that we weren't there. Sure enough, they knew we had taken the items and came over (which we expected); however, one of the girls found an out-of-the way window with a broken lock, got in that way, and spoiled our plans.

The puzzle statement refers to me hearing the noise of the window opening, walking through the kitchen, seeing her come in, and groaning because our plans were done. She opened the door and turned on the lights in order to let her friends in.

Side note: The girl who came in through the window and I are now good friends.

Nice work, everyone, especially Redwine and Shez. Make sure your windows are locked.
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 2540
Registered: 2-2011
Posted on Friday, December 23, 2011 - 8:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

if I thought I was going to be raided by hoardes of young men I might leave them wide open!

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