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Peter365 (Peter365)
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Happy Friday fellow puzzlers

A recent newspaper headline about a particular sport would make someone reading it who was unfamiliar with the sport react with a "Huh how would that work?".

I know for a fact that most of you will be unfamiliar with this sport so it's quite a lateral step to work out what that the headline said or might have implied

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Is the sport a team sport?
Does the sport require a ball? any weapons?
Is it an indoor sport? Outdoor sport?
Does the sport require referee? jury?
Do players score points?
Can only men play this sport? only women?
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Is the sport a team sport? Yes
Does the sport require a ball? Yes any weapons? No
Is it an indoor sport? Outdoor sport? Outdoor
Does the sport require referee? Yes jury? No
Do players score points? Yes
Can only men play this sport? only women? Both can and do play it
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Does the sport involve animals?
Did the headline refer to the ball? to the players? to scoring points?
Was the name of the sport used in the headline?
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Does the sport involve animals? No
Did the headline refer to the ball? Yes to the players? to scoring points? No to rest
Was the name of the sport used in the headline? No
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Do players strike the ball with their body parts? With any equipment?

Did the headline describe how a point was scored?
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is it a gaelic sport peter? gaelic football? hurling? shinty?
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Do players strike the ball with their body parts? With any equipment? They mainly kick it}

Did the headline describe how a point was scored? No
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Do players strike the ball with their body parts? With any equipment? They mostly kick it

Did the headline describe how a point was scored? No
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is it a gaelic sport peter? Yes gaelic football? Yes hurling? shinty?

Clarification

Did the headline refer to the ball? The answer should have been yope
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Would the reader of the headline, who is not familiar with gaelic football, assume that it is about "traditional" football?
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Would the reader of the headline, who is not familiar with gaelic football, assume that it is about "traditional" football? No
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Are the teams professional teams? Regional? or school teams?
If the latter, is at least one of the teams from a parochial (religious) school?
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Are the rules of gaelic football relevant?
Is a specific team relevant?
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is a specific term relevant? or how the scoreline is presented?
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Did the specific expression in the headline refer to how a goal was scored? How a pass has been made to a teammate? To a referee decision? Was it a pun involved? A word typed incorrectly? (Like instead of passing the ball the player passed the "bill" :-) )If a pun, an intentional one?
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Are the teams professional teams? Regional? or school teams? This impacts all players at all levels. Btw all Gaelic Football is amateur
If the latter, is at least one of the teams from a parochial (religious) school? See above
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Are the rules of gaelic football relevant? Yes
Is a specific team relevant? No
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is a specific term relevant? Yes or how the scoreline is presented? No
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Did the specific expression in the headline refer to how a goal was scored? b{No it alluded to a rule that to the uninformed would the impression that Gaelic Football is a very strange game} How a pass has been made to a teammate? No To a referee decision? No Was it a pun involved? No more an ambigous statement A word typed incorrectly? (Like instead of passing the ball the player passed the "bill" :-) )If a pun, an intentional one? So no to this
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is it a word that we will be familiar with from elsewhere? is the term a single word? if so, is it a noun? verb?

does it refer to the ball? the goalposts or net? a player? a position? a period of time? a sanction? an action? the team as a whole? a competition? a style of play? the playing area? the playing surface or markings? a team as a whole? A nickname or mascot? A supporter? An official? A substitute?
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What I was thinking about: In a nearby town, there is a parochial school named after the cannonized Pope Pius X. It conjures up a rather irreverant picture to read the headline "St. Pius X rolls over opposition." =0
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is it a word that we will be familiar with from elsewhere? Yes for both words is the term a single word? No if so, is it a noun? Two nouns verbNo

does it refer to the ball? Yes the goalposts or net? a player? a position? Yes with a slight ish a period of time? a sanction? an action? the team as a whole? a competition? a style of play? the playing area? Yes the playing surface or markings? Markings yes surface no a team as a whole? A nickname or mascot? A supporter? An official? A substitute? No to rest
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What I was thinking about: In a nearby town, there is a parochial school named after the cannonized Pope Pius X. It conjures up a rather irreverant picture to read the headline "St. Pius X rolls over opposition." =0 Hee Hee alas no
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is one of the nouns 'ball'? Is it something like square ball or flat ball? i.e. It sounds like it's describing the ball but in fact it's a term that means something else in the game? Dead ball? Fly ball?
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is one of the nouns 'ball'? Yes Is it something like square ball or flat ball? Square Ball it is.. Well Done i.e. It sounds like it's describing the ball but in fact it's a term that means something else in the game? Exactly Dead ball? Fly ball?

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Well done Andy

Gaelic Football has a rule that states an attacking player cannot enter the small parallelogram unless the ball is already there. The small parrallelogram is referred to paradoxically as the square so an infringement in that area is known as 'square ball'.

This rule has caused considerable controversy in the last few years with a errors made in a number of key decisions in crucial matches. The proposal before congress (the games governing body) is to remove the square ball rule altogether. This led to a headline in an Irish paper recently which read 'Square ball to be given the boot'.

It struck me that someone unfamiliar with the sport might think that it used a square ball and not a round one.

Thanks for playing everyone and kudos to Andy for the solve.
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nice one. they use the term 'square ball' in soccer too - that's what made me think along those lines but i didn't think it would be right as i couldn't see how it might be used in a headline. good puzzle again
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Oh yeah as in passing sideways . It didn't occur to me that the expression is also used in Soccer.

I see you're in Preston. I've been there a few times. My uncle lived in a tiny village near there called Goosnargh. He was Parish Priest there for a while. Are you a football fan Andy?
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hi peter, yeah i know goosnargh, i've played football against them a few times. much nicer than preston, it's like a different world within 5 miles of the city centre. Yeah I love football - called it soccer due to the international nature of the forum!
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Soccerball rocks!!

Are you a North End supporter? I'm a big Man City fan and have been since I was 5 years old. I always point that out in case people think I was swayed by the Sheikh's money.
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yeah a north ender but not die-hard or anything - just love all football

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