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Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 1:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He had a strong suspicion that this had occurred on the Tuesday just gone...

He is an adult human.

A quickie I think!
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Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 3:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the date 13/12/11 relevant?

Could this be any tuesday? any day in December?
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Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 4:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the date 13/12/2011 relevant? no-ish

Could this be any tuesday? no any day in December? no-ish
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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 4:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does "this" happen only once a year? Once ever?
Is "this" something personal? Or would everyone know of it?
Does "this" always occur on the same date (like a birthday)?
Would he get in trouble for forgeting it?
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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 5:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does "this" happen only once a year? Once ever? "this" is a one off event that took place in the frame of the puzzle. it is FMOI but based on a real life event.
Is "this" something personal? Or would everyone know of it? i'm not sure how to answer these, i think they are questions based on an FA. I hope the answer above helps. In the frame of the puzzle, and at the time of the puzzle statement, a limited number of people would be aware that "this" had occurred
Does "this" always occur on the same date (like a birthday)? no, it happened once
Would he get in trouble for forgetting it? for forgetting that this had occurred? strictly speaking, possibly, but irr and also FA i think...
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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would "this" have made the news? crime relevant? politics?
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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would "this" have made the news? yes crime relevant? yes politics? no
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Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 11:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a taxi driver involved in this story at all?
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Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 12:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a taxi driver involved in this story at all? possibly but irr in the puzzle. the true story that inspired the puzzle may have done but i don't know
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Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 2:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does he suspect that a crime has occured?
Does he suspect he knows the perpetratior of "this"?
Is his ocupation relevant?
Is his relationship to "this" relevant?
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Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 2:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does he suspect that a crime has occured? yes - he knows a crime has been committed
Does he suspect he knows the perpetratior of "this"? yes. you're correct - "this" describes the crime
Is his ocupation relevant? yes
Is his relationship to "this" relevant? yes
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Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 3:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was someone murdered? injured?

was something stolen?

is he a policeman? detective? victim?
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Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 3:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was someone murdered? this injured?

was something stolen? no

is he a policeman? yes detective? yes victim? no
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Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 6:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is there something at the scene of the crime which indicates the day this happened?

something on the corpse?

was the corpse discovered in a house? are there a number of milk bottles or newspapers which have been delivered so the date can be calculated?

is it because the victim didn't turn up for work on Tuesday?
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Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 7:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is there something at the scene of the crime which indicates the day this happened? something which causes the strong suspicion, yes

something on the corpse? no

was the corpse discovered in a house? yope, FA are there a number of milk bottles or newspapers which have been delivered so the date can be calculated? not either of these

is it because the victim didn't turn up for work on Tuesday? no
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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 11:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is there no corpse?

was the crime committed outdoors? indoors? a public building? an office? a church? restaurant? theatre?
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Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 11:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is there no corpse? no, there are corpses

was the crime committed outdoors? indoors? yes a public building? an office? a church? restaurant? theatre? no to others
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Posted on Monday, December 19, 2011 - 11:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has the detective viewed a murdered corpse?

Was the suspicion that it occurred on the Tuesday based on any forensics? a post mortem? something in the vacinity of the crime scene?

Is there any object that is dated anywhere in the crime scene e.g. a newspaper?

Is this particular murder part of a series?

In case you didn't realise I asked the Taxi Driver question because I thought you were quoting De Niro in the puzzle title.

Is the movie Taxi Driver in any way relevant?
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Posted on Monday, December 19, 2011 - 1:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has the detective viewed a murdered corpse? yes, corpses

Was the suspicion that it occurred on the Tuesday based on any forensics? no a post mortem? no something in the vacinity of the crime scene? yes

Is there any object that is dated anywhere in the crime scene e.g. a newspaper? yes, but not a newspaper


Is this particular murder part of a series? a multiple murder

In case you didn't realise I asked the Taxi Driver question because I thought you were quoting De Niro in the puzzle title.

Is the movie Taxi Driver in any way relevant? I realised after I'd answered the question - d'oh. Not relevant in any way.
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Posted on Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does he suspect the muders were commited on Tuesday because of a calander?
Was everyday up to Tue crossed off and now it is, say Thu. Leaving uncrossed days between tue and today?
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Posted on Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the crime scene a prison by any chance?
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Posted on Monday, December 19, 2011 - 3:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the crime scene someone's home?

was there a computer there which gave away the date?

a diary?
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Posted on Monday, December 19, 2011 - 4:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does he suspect the muders were commited on Tuesday because of a calander? yes
Was everyday up to Tue crossed off and now it is, say Thu. Leaving uncrossed days between tue and today? yope, OTRT

Is the crime scene a prison by any chance? no

was the crime scene someone's home? yes

was there a computer there which gave away the date? no

a diary? no
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is the calendar one where you tear off a page for each day?

did the calendar indicate that on Tuesday a lot of people were coming round? did it say "murder"?
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is the calendar one where you tear off a page for each day? yope, OTRT

did the calendar indicate on Tuesday a lot of people were coming round? did it say "murder"? no to both
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Are the murder victims of mixed sex and age?

Are they all found in one room in the house? Is the murder method relevant? Is there a murder weapon left at the scene?

Is there any other relevant object in the room other than the calendar?

On the calendar itself are there any hand written reminders like 'bin day' ?
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Are the murder victims of mixed sex and age? yes

Are they all found in one room in the house? yes, but irr Is the murder method relevant? no Is there a murder weapon left at the scene? yes, but irr

Is there any other relevant object in the room other than the calendar? no

On the calendar itself are there any hand written reminders like 'bin day'? no
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 5:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was there a significant event written on the calendar for Tuesday?

was the calendar on the computer?

was it one where you turn a page every day?
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 6:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was there a significant event written on the calendar for Tuesday?

was the calendar on the computer?

was it one where you turn a page every day?
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 6:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

doh! sorry about the double post

was last Tuesday New Year's Eve? so last year's calendar was still hanging there?
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 6:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was there a significant event written on the calendar for Tuesday? no

was the calendar on the computer? no

was it one where you turn a page every day? no

was last Tuesday New Year's Eve? so last year's calendar was still hanging there? no, but that's a great thought and question.
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Does the calendar have any relevant pictures on it?

Could it provide any other clues to the murders other than identifying when they happened?
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Does the calendar have any relevant pictures on it? yope

Could it provide any other clues to the murders other than identifying when they happened? no
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Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 5:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i've been reading through the posts and seen that perhaps one of my answers could have been misleading at the time. i think it's since been clarified the hard way, but for the avoidance of doubt, the false assumption was that there was only one corpse and not that they were discovered in a house - which is true.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 5:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

thanks for the clarification

if not pictures, does the calendar have symbols on it? writing?
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Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 5:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

if not pictures, does the calendar have symbols on it? it does have pictures on it, but they aren't relevant to why the detective thought this happened on the previous Tuesday. hint: they are perhaps somewhat relevant, however, to you getting on the right lines to solving the puzzle. hence the 'yope' to peter's question writing? no
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Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 6:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

were the corpses human? I'm thinking the calendar may have a huntin' shootin' fishin' theme, so if this had happened in the UK last Tuesday could be 12th August - 1st day of the grouse shooting season for example.
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were the corpses human? yes I'm thinking the calendar may have a huntin' shootin' fishin' theme, so if this had happened in the UK last Tuesday could be 12th August - 1st day of the grouse shooting season for example. good thinking not this
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and realising that I didn't actually answer the question earlier...

does the calendar have symbols on it? possibly but nothing specifically relevant. assume no.
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time for a hint:the solution to the puzzle is particularly morbid

challenge your assumptions
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Does the detective know who killed these people? Is the murderer also dead?
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the decomposition of the bodies relevant? maggots?

had something started eating them? somebody?
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Does the detective know who killed these people? yes Is the murderer also dead? yes

the decomposition of the bodies relevant? no maggots? no

had something started eating them? no somebody? no
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Is the murderer's body with his victims? Has the murderer also being murdered? committed suicide? shot by police?

Does the cause of the murderer's death differ significantly from that of his victims?
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Did anything else relevant to the puzzle happen on Tuesday (strike, riots, hurricane etc.)?
Was the name of the murderer written on the calendar?
Did detective deduce from the calendar that: victims had appointed meeting with the murderer on Tuesday? victims had appointed meeting with someone else on Tuesday? victims should have done something on Tuesday which has not been done?
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Is the murderer's body with his victims? yesHas the murderer also being murdered? no committed suicide? yes shot by police? no

Does the cause of the murderer's death differ significantly from that of his victims? yope, see above

Did anything else relevant to the puzzle happen on Tuesday (strike, riots, hurricane etc.)? no
Was the name of the murderer written on the calendar? no
Did detective deduce from the calendar that: victims had appointed meeting with the murderer on Tuesday? victims had appointed meeting with someone else on Tuesday? victims should have done something on Tuesday which has not been done? no to all - hint - if it said 'since Tuesday' in the last question it would have been a yes
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*RECAP*
Shortly after arriving at the crime scene, a detective strongly suspects that the crime occurred on the previous tuesday. the crime scene is somebody's home and there are a number of corpses present, including victims who have been murdered, and the murderer, who has committed suicide. The detective's suspicion comes from viewing a calendar at the crime scene. There is nothing written on the calendar, and no symbols, but there are pictures. From the calendar, the detective deduces that the victims should have done something since last tuesday that has not been done.


Surely someone can $poyle this for me from the recap?
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Is Christmas relevant at all?

Are the victim's themselves pictured on the calendar? Are they members of an organisation or group? that traditionally does something on a particular date?

This should be obvious but I'm stumped.
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Did the victims perform some relevant actions on a daily basis? If yes, would the results of this action be clearly visible in the surrounding? Would the results of this action be visible on the calendar?
Is it a chocolate advent calendar?
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Is christmas relevant at all? YES!

Is it a chocolate advent calendar? YES!

$poiler to follow
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***********SPOILER************

Upon arriving at the scene, it was clear that the guy had cruelly murdered his wife and three children before turning the gun on himself. Detective Wright looked sadly upon the unopened presents beneath the tree, when something caught his attention. He walked over to the advent calendars on the wall, all in a row. Noticing the unopened doors he remarked "I'd say this happened last Tuesday"


Thanks for playing the puzzle with me, and have a very merry xmas
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Posted on Friday, December 23, 2011 - 8:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

excellent festive puzzle! I love it!
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D'oh.

Great puzzle.

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