| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8253 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lisana is fluent in American Sign Language & is not a bigot, but she doesn't want to have a Deaf roommate at college. How come? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1609 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is she at college in the US? If she did have a deaf roommate, would she expect them to understand ASL? Is the reason she doesn't want a deaf roommate connected to her being fluent in ASL? Does she want to be able to use it without her roommate understanding? Is lipreading relevant? Does she want to do something at college that requires her roommate to be able to hear? Would she be ok with having a blind roommate? A roommate with another disability but who wasn't deaf? Is what Lisana studies relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8257 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1609 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 - 6:02 pm: Is she at college in the US? irrel If she did have a deaf roommate, would she expect them to understand ASL? ditto: I included this information in order to dispel the suggestion that she was afraid she wouldn't be able to communicate with a Deaf roommate Is the reason she doesn't want a deaf roommate connected to her being fluent in ASL? noDoes she want to be able to use it without her roommate understanding? no Is lipreading relevant? no Does she want to do something at college that requires her roommate to be able to hear? yope Would she be ok with having a blind roommate? yesA roommate with another disability but who wasn't deaf? yes Is what Lisana studies relevant? no | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1611 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is it relevant that she is at college, rather than just living with someone but not a student? Would it matter whether or not the potential roommate had been deaf since birth? Whether or not they could speak? Relevant whether by roommate you mean someone actually sharing her bedroom, or just someone sharing her apartment/halls of residence? Would having a deaf roommate prevent her from doing something she wants to do? Cause her to lose out on something? Get her into trouble in some way? Does she have a relevant plan that she is going to carry out, which involves her roommate? Does she want her roommate to hear something in particular? To report on having heard something? Are any crimes relevant? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2957 Registered: 7-2009 |
Does she want her roommate to be able to do something for her? Such as answer the phone when it rings (though they make light up phones for this purpose, so it shouldn't matter)? Does her wish not to have a deaf roommate have to do with her personal safety? Her possessions? Her convenience? Her comfort? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2959 Registered: 7-2009 |
On second thought, regarding my last post -- It doesn't really matter if the phone lights up or not, since a deaf roommate wouldn't be able to carry on a verbal conversation on a normal (TTY-free) telephone. So is that it? Does she want her roommate to be able to answer the phone take messages for her? Or is a TTY device somehow relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8263 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1611 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 - 6:28 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is it relevant that she is at college, rather than just living with someone but not a student? no Would it matter whether or not the potential roommate had been deaf since birth? possibly but not necessarily Whether or not they could speak? no Relevant whether by roommate you mean someone actually sharing her bedroom, or just someone sharing her apartment/halls of residence? it's worse if they share a bedroom, but the reason holds in any case Would having a deaf roommate prevent her from doing something she wants to do? yes Cause her to lose out on something? yes Get her into trouble in some way? see previous answers Does she have a relevant plan that she is going to carry out, which involves her roommate? noDoes she want her roommate to hear something in particular? yopeTo report on having heard something? no Are any crimes relevant? no Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2957 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 - 6:44 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does she want her roommate to be able to do something for her? noish Such as answer the phone when it rings (though they make light up phones for this purpose, so it shouldn't matter)? no Does her wish not to have a deaf roommate have to do with her personal safety? no Her possessions? noHer convenience? see next answer Her comfort? yes Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2959 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 - 6:56 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On second thought, regarding my last post -- It doesn't really matter if the phone lights up or not, since a deaf roommate wouldn't be able to carry on a verbal conversation on a normal (TTY-free) telephone. So is that it?no Does she want her roommate to be able to answer the phone take messages for her? noOr is a TTY device somehow relevant? no | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1554 Registered: 6-2005 |
Hmm... I've got two trains of thought here... Lisana might be fluent understanding ASL, but can she actually sign? i.e. does she have hands and arms that work? Does Lisana dislike having the lights on all the time? Perhaps she has a preference for listening to music or being on the computer with the lights off to avoid the glare? And having a deaf roommate would force her to have the lights on all the time or else her roommate would be unable to communicate with her or company? That would suck actually. You're half asleep in bed at 1 AM and your roommate suddenly remembers something she forgot to tell you, jumps up, turns on the light, blinding you, then forces you to pry open your eyes just so she can "say" something. Ouch. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8266 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1554 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 12:59 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Hmm... I've got two trains of thought here... Lisana might be fluent understanding ASL, but can she actually sign? yesi.e. does she have hands and arms that work? yes Does Lisana dislike having the lights on all the time? noPerhaps she has a preference for listening to music or being on the computer with the lights off to avoid the glare? noAnd having a deaf roommate would force her to have the lights on all the time or else her roommate would be unable to communicate with her or company? no That would suck actually. You're half asleep in bed at 1 AM and your roommate suddenly remembers something she forgot to tell you, jumps up, turns on the light, blinding you, then forces you to pry open your eyes just so she can "say" something. Ouch Well, if she weren't Deaf, she would wake you up by talking to you. I don't think that's any better. Deaf or hearing, she's a jerk if she awakes you to tell you anything less urgent than that the dorm is on fire. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2962 Registered: 7-2009 |
Does Lisana enjoy a particular pastime that would be difficult to share with a deaf roommate? For example, many deaf people find most types of TV shows and movies boring, even with closed captioning. Maybe she's a movie buff who wants someone to watch movies with her? Or she wants someone to go dance at clubs with her (which can be difficult, depending on how deep the roommates deafness is)? What would bother Lisana specifically: Something a deaf roommate would do that a hearing roommate wouldn't? Something a deaf roommate wouldn't do that a hearing roommate would? Something a hearing roommate would do better than a deaf roommate? Something about using sign language? Something about written communication? Something about NOT using spoken communication? Something about technology related to deafness? Something Lisana would have to do for a deaf roommate that she wouldn't have to do for a hearing roommate? Something Lisana would be able to do with a hearing roommate but couldn't do with a deaf roommate? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 2015 Registered: 9-2010 |
Does she want her roommate to NOT hear/understand something she does/says/is? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8269 Registered: 8-2001 |
w member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 2015 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 6:56 pm: Does she want her roommate to NOT hear/understand something she does/says/is? no | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 1099 Registered: 6-2003 |
Did she expect her roommate to do something? something that deaf people usually not are doing? sports? or other leisure activities relevant? Does she think that deaf people are making more noise because they do not hear their own noise? Does she have a deep sleep and usually does not hear the alarm clock? (and would rely on her roommate to wake her up?) | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2965 Registered: 7-2009 |
You missed my questions from August 4th | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8276 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2962 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 8:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does Lisana enjoy a particular pastime that would be difficult to share with a deaf roommate? irrel For example, many deaf people find most types of TV shows and movies boring, even with closed captioning. Maybe she's a movie buff who wants someone to watch movies with her? no Or she wants someone to go dance at clubs with her (which can be difficult, depending on how deep the roommates deafness is)? no What would bother Lisana specifically: Something a deaf roommate would do that a hearing roommate wouldn't? yes Something a deaf roommate wouldn't do that a hearing roommate would? see above Something a hearing roommate would do better than a deaf roommate? yes Something about using sign language? no Something about written communication? no Something about NOT using spoken communication? no Something about technology related to deafness? no Something Lisana would have to do for a deaf roommate that she wouldn't have to do for a hearing roommate? no Something Lisana would be able to do with a hearing roommate but couldn't do with a deaf roommate? yesish | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 8277 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sundowner (Sundowner) New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 1099 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Monday, August 06, 2012 - 9:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did she expect her roommate to do something? yope something that deaf people usually not are doing? yes sports? noor other leisure activities relevant? no Does she think that deaf people are making more noise because they do not hear their own noise? yes Does she have a deep sleep and usually does not hear the alarm clock? no (and would rely on her roommate to wake her up?) no ******* SPOILER ******** According to a novel about a Deaf-blind man (Of Such Small Differences, by Joanne Greenberg), Deaf people are noisy precisely because they don't hear noise. So if you're hearing, a Deaf roommate may make it hard for you to study or to sleep through the night. Hard is what this puzzle was not, apparently, but please check out my replacement at the bottom of the page. Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2965 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Monday, August 06, 2012 - 3:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) You missed my questions from August 4thRectified (see above), with my most heartfelt apologies |
