| Author | Message | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16299 Registered: 4-2010 |
Yes, I'm copy/pasting Redwine's recent puzzle statement, word for word (with a couple minor edits). Don't judge me. Besides, the solution is different. If they had paid more attention to their idea, the criminals wouldn't have succeeded. The concept is from a book and the book is humoristic - so don't be so serious :-) | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 671 Registered: 7-2011 |
They = HAMs? HAFs? Mixed? Number relevant? If so, 2-5, 6-10, 11 -100? More? Same q's for the criminals. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16301 Registered: 4-2010 |
They = HAMs? HAFs? Mixed? 2 HAMs Number relevant? If so, 2-5, 6-10, 11 -100? More? Same q's for the criminals. 4 HAMs | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami Post Number: 507 Registered: 2-2008 |
Did they unintentionally give the idea to the criminals? Would their idea have prevented crime from happening? Or caused the criminals to fail mid-crime? Did their idea involve the criminals? Was the idea an invention? An innovation of something that already existed? A method or process? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16313 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they unintentionally give the idea to the criminals? Noish Would their idea have prevented crime from happening? Yope Or caused the criminals to fail mid-crime? Yope Did their idea involve the criminals? Yes Was the idea an invention? No An innovation of something that already existed? Not exactly A method or process? This is closest, I guess. Sorry for my vague answers; I'm not completely sure how to answer some of these. | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 672 Registered: 7-2011 |
2 criminals, 2 non-criminals? Relevant? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1661 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is the specific crime relevant? [LTPF list of crimes]? Were "they" cops? Fellow criminals who were not involved in this crime? Did two bands of robbers try to rob the same bank at the same time? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16319 Registered: 4-2010 |
2 criminals, 2 non-criminals? Relevant? There were 4 criminals and 2 non-criminals -- I'm not sure what you're trying to ask Is the specific crime relevant? Yes [LTPF list of crimes]? Bank robbery Were "they" cops? Yes (well, one was a sheriff and the other a detective, but close enough for a Yes) Fellow criminals who were not involved in this crime? No Did two bands of robbers try to rob the same bank at the same time? No | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 545 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did they somehow enticed the criminals to safeguard the bank so the criminals had to be in the public eye all the time? Did they put the criminals in jail before the robbery? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16326 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they somehow enticed the criminals to safeguard the bank so the criminals had to be in the public eye all the time? No Did they put the criminals in jail before the robbery? No | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1398 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did sheriff and detective know (or at least strongly suspect) that the crime would be committed? which bank would be robbed? who would commit the crime? If any is yes, was this knowledge/suspicion relevant to their idea? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16340 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did sheriff and detective know (or at least strongly suspect) that the crime would be committed? Yes which bank would be robbed? Yes who would commit the crime? Irrel If any is yes, was this knowledge/suspicion relevant to their idea? Yes | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1407 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did sheriff and detective set a trap? Arranged an observation of the bank? Did they inform the management of the bank? Did sheriff and detective want to prevent the robbery? Catch the criminals with money on them? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16355 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did sheriff and detective set a trap? No Arranged an observation of the bank? Yes Did they inform the management of the bank? Yes Did sheriff and detective want to prevent the robbery? Catch the criminals with money on them? This; the goal was to catch them in the act | ||
| Blue (Blue)
New member Username: Blue Post Number: 12 Registered: 1-2012 |
criminals succeeded because they got to know part of the plan? complete plan? the plan was not properly thought about? not properly implemented? had loopholes? which the criminals exploited? idea was not given attention by sheriff/detective? or bank management? is bank management relevant? the idea was not given attention because: they got lax? lack of authority? lack of co-operation? something else? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16359 Registered: 4-2010 |
criminals succeeded because they got to know part of the plan? complete plan? Neither the plan was not properly thought about? Yes not properly implemented? No had loopholes? Yes which the criminals exploited? Yes idea was not given attention by sheriff/detective? or bank management? Not sure what you mean by this is bank management relevant? Not really the idea was not given attention because: Again, not sure what you mean by this they got lax? lack of authority? lack of co-operation? something else? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16360 Registered: 4-2010 |
OK, just understood what you meant idea was not given attention by sheriff/detective? This or bank management? the idea was not given attention because: they got lax? Yope; the detective forgot about something when making the plan. That's all I can say without giving it away lack of authority? lack of co-operation? something else? | ||
| Blue (Blue)
New member Username: Blue Post Number: 30 Registered: 1-2012 |
the criminals robbed the bank? escaped with the money? big money? when did sheriff come to know about it: while act was happening? immediately after? minutes later? hours later? days later? criminals escaped from the same route they came? front door? some other door? window? roof? underground? any fight in bank? gunshots? hostage situation? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16369 Registered: 4-2010 |
the criminals robbed the bank? escaped with the money? big money? Yes when did sheriff come to know about it: while act was happening? immediately after? minutes later? hours later? Assume this, but it wasn't very long after days later? criminals escaped from the same route they came? Yes! front door? some other door? window? This! roof? underground? any fight in bank? gunshots? hostage situation? No to all | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16384 Registered: 4-2010 |
RECAP: If they had paid more attention to their idea, the criminals wouldn't have succeeded. "They" are a sheriff and detective attempting to stop a bank robbery. However, their plan failed, as the criminals entered and exited the bank through a window. | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 83 Registered: 1-2012 |
Did the robbers come through a window which the sheriff and detective failed to monitor because they didn't pay enough attention to the layout of the bank/forgot about this one window? So the robbers were able to climb in and out of this window? And the sheriff and the detective only realized this after the robbery occured? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16388 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the robbers come through a window which the sheriff and detective failed to monitor Yes because they didn't pay enough attention to the layout of the bank/forgot about this one window? Yes, slight -ish So the robbers were able to climb in and out of this window? Yes And the sheriff and the detective only realized this after the robbery occurred? Yes | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 88 Registered: 1-2012 |
Okay, was the window in a place they thought the robbers would be unable to access? Like on another story? Anything else we need to find out here? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16392 Registered: 4-2010 |
Okay, was the window in a place they thought the robbers would be unable to access? No Like on another story? No, but nice thought Anything else we need to find out here? Yes: You know that the sheriff & detective knew the robbers would rob the bank. How? And just what was their plan? (Don't overthink it; it's very simple.) | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1429 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did they overhear the robbers' conversation? Did one of the robbers cooperate with them? Was their plan simply to observe the bank? To observe all the exits? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16395 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they overhear the robbers' conversation? Did one of the robbers cooperate with them? No and No Was their plan simply to observe the bank? Yes... To observe all the exits? Yes! I think you've got it now (at least most of it)... can you put it all together? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16403 Registered: 4-2010 |
Actually, I think you've got it -- at least the part I asked for in the puzzle statement -- so **********SPOILER********** A sheriff & detective were trying to stop a bank robbery. The criminals had already robbed the bank once, and the S&D thought they would again. The detective came up with the idea of putting a sign up announcing that the new shipment of money had just arrived, then watching the doors so the criminals couldn't get in. Unfortunately the criminals robbed the bank anyway, entering and exiting through the windows. Nice work Redwine, and points to everyone else who worked on this. |
