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Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 - 6:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Puzzle regulars will know that I write a lot of light verse (some of which I post in the chatroom after it's published.) A friend of mine recently made a suggestion for improving my poems. I didn't agree with him, but I wish I did. How come??
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Was his advice to do with use of words? metre? rhyming relevant?

Or was his advice more about how to better convey the poems theme or message? Had you followed his advise would your message have been clearer? would the length of your poems have changed?

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Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 6:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Was his advice to do with use of words? yes metre? yes rhyming relevant? yes

Or was his advice more about how to better convey the poems theme or message? no Had you followed his advise would your message have been clearer? Eek --I'd like to say that my poems don't have "messages." But I'm afraid that some of them do. would the length of your poems have changed? no
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Anything to do with spell-checking?

Anything to with at all with physical appearance by others, once you posted (for example, line length, font incompatablities?

Does the words/metre/rhyming problem somehow interact with previous question?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 5:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Anything to do with spell-checking? no

Anything to with at all with physical appearance by others, once you posted (for example, line length, font incompatablities?
no

Does the words/metre/rhyming problem somehow interact with previous question? no
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 11:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HINT: This puzzle would work ONLY with poetry.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 12:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rhyming schemes relevant? Types of rhyme relevant (near rhymes, homophones, etc)? Would following his suggestion make your poems easier to write? Easier to read? Better in your opinion? Worse in your opinion? Did he suggest that you use a different style of poetry?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Rhyming schemes relevant? yes Types of rhyme relevant (near rhymes, homophones, etc)? yes Would following his suggestion make your poems easier to write? yes Easier to read? no Better in your opinion? noWorse in your opinion? yes Did he suggest that you use a different style of poetry? noish
or maybe yope
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Did he suggest you rhyme two specific words? Or use a kind of rhyme you don't use? Did you reject his suggestion and use a lot of time and/or energy to find a good rhyme?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Did he suggest you rhyme two specific words? noOr use a kind of rhyme you don't use? yope Did you reject his suggestion and use a lot of time and/or energy to find a good rhyme? yes
Enjay (Enjay)
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Is the reason why you wish you did agree because it would make your writing take less time? Less effort?

Do you use rhymes in your poems? Full rhymes? Half rhymes? Do you always use a particular form? Did he suggest you write non-rhyming poetry? That you write in a particular style? Stick to a particular form of poetry?

Was his suggestion a serious one?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 9:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Is the reason why you wish you did agree because it would make your writing take less time? yes Less effort? yes

Do you use rhymes in your poems? yesFull rhymes? yesHalf rhymes? I'm not even sure what a half-rhyme is!! Do you always use a particular form? yopeDid he suggest you write non-rhyming poetry? yopeThat you write in a particular style? noish or yope Stick to a particular form of poetry? see previous answer

Was his suggestion a serious one? yes
Enjay (Enjay)
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Did you not agree because you think poems should have a good rhyme scheme? Or at least that those are the kinds of poems that you want to write? Did it strike you as 'lazy', or sacrificing good poetry for ease?

Would it have been less effort because you would have had to spend less time thinking up rhyming words? Because there would have been fewer constraints on line length?

Did he suggest that you should vary your rhyme schemes more? Less?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Friday, April 13, 2012 - 6:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Enjay (Enjay)
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Did you not agree because you think poems should have a good rhyme scheme? yes Or at least that those are the kinds of poems that you want to write? yes Did it strike you as 'lazy', I'm all for laziness, unress it has bad effects or sacrificing good poetry for ease? yes

Would it have been less effort because you would have had to spend less time thinking up rhyming words? yes Because there would have been fewer constraints on line length? yes

Did he suggest that you should vary your rhyme schemes more? yesish Less? noish
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Friday, April 13, 2012 - 8:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Could his advice have been applied to a single instance of your poetry? Or did it apply more to your body of work as a whole?

Do you like to have every line rhyme with another line? Did he suggest that you shouldn't do this?

Do you like to keep your lines to a certain length? Did he suggest you should vary line length? That you should worry less about having the poem scan?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Friday, April 13, 2012 - 10:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Enjay (Enjay)
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Could his advice have been applied to a single instance of your poetry? It applied to all the rhyming ones. Most of my poems rhyme.Or did it apply more to your body of work as a whole? See previous answer

Do you like to have every line rhyme with another line?not every line, but I like to have regular rhymes, e.g. line 1 may not rhyme with line 3, but I want line 2 to rhyme with line 4 Did he suggest that you shouldn't do this? yes

Do you like to keep your lines to a certain length? yope Did he suggest you should vary line length? see next answerThat you should worry less about having the poem scan? yes

***** SPOILER **************
I try to have all my rhyming poems rhyme & scan perfectly, which is a LOT of work. One of my friends said this gives them a sing-song quality, & it would be better if they didn't quite rhyme & scan. I'm lazy, so I'd like to follow this advice, but unfortunately, I think it's wrong. When Emily Dickinson doesn't rhyme & scan perfectly, it looks like the subtlety of genius, because it is. But if I fail to rhyme & scan perfectly, I look inept. Life is unfair--but at least my new puzzle awaits you. Sorry this one was so easy!
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2012 - 12:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I aim for perfect (or close-to-it) rhyme in my light verse, but I've decided that if it doesn't rhyme perfectly, it's no biggie. Don't think either way is most definitely correct or most definitely not. Good puzzle.
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2012 - 6:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, Balin!! Please check out my others, including a new one & a long-languishing (although almost solved) old one.

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