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Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 11:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Children bore Leonie to tears, but she pretends to like them. . .for a very unusual reason. What is it?
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Leonie=HAF?

Does her job have to do with children? Is her job otherwise relevant? Is she trying to get children to think she likes them? Other adults? (I'm assuming she's an adult.)

Children=boys? girls? both? Age: 0-4? 5-9? 10-14? Older?

Does Leonie have children? Is she married? Divorced? Engaged? In a relationship? Does she have relatives who are children? Is her own childhood relevant?
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Leonie=HAF? yes to all

Does her job have to do with children? yes Is her job otherwise relevant? no Is she trying to get children to think she likes them? noOther adults? yes(I'm assuming she's an adult Your assumption is correct.)

Children=boys? girls? both? Age: 0-4? 5-9? 10-14? Older?children in general

Does Leonie have children? noIs she married? irrelDivorced? irrel Engaged? irrelIn a relationship? irrel Does she have relatives who are children? irrel Is her own childhood relevant? no
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Does Leonie benefit from pretending to like children in a way she wouldn't if she admitted she wasn't keen on them?

Would she lose her job if it were known that she didn't like them? Would she lose friends? Money? Her home? Would there be some other consequence if she admitted the truth?
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Is it at all relevant what her job is? Does she deal with children directly? Talk to them? Does she actively pretend to like children? Or does she simply tell people she does? Is she doing anything illegal?

Location relevant? Time period? Other people relevant?
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Does Leonie benefit from pretending to like children in a way she wouldn't if she admitted she wasn't keen on them? yes

Would she lose her job if it were known that she didn't like them? noWould she lose friends? noMoney? yopeHer home? no Would there be some other consequence if she admitted the truth? no
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Is it at all relevant what her job is? noDoes she deal with children directly? irrelTalk to them? ditto Does she actively pretend to like children? see next answerOr does she simply tell people she does? yes Is she doing anything illegal? yes

Location relevant? yes Time period? no}Other people relevant? yes
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Does she say "I like children", or words to that effect? Does she say something which, for it to be true, would mean she must like children?

Is the "yope" to losing money because she wouldn't lose it so much as not acquire it? Because she would have to pay more for something that she currently gets for free, or at a discount?

Would she be no longer entitled to something if she revealed that she didn't like children? Does she actually say she doesn't like children? Or indicate it on a form? Type it? Write it?

Is the crime she is committing fraud? Does she live in a country with a welfare system? Is she claiming benefits/tax relief under false pretences?
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Is her having the job she does the way in which she pretends to like children? Does she pretend to like them in order to explain why she has that job? To explain why she goes to a certain place? Does a certain thing?

Does she pretend to a certain group of people? Coworkers? Friends? Family members? Officials? To one person only?
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Location: LTPF list of continents?
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Is her having the job she does the way in which she pretends to like children? no Does she pretend to like them in order to explain why she has that job? noTo explain why she goes to a certain place? noDoes a certain thing? yes

Does she pretend to a certain group of people? Coworkers? Friends? Family members? Officials? To one person only?Primarily to officials but this leads to general pretense
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Location: LTPF list of continents? It could occur in the US & probably most countries but I'm not sure which ones.
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Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2012 - 12:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I posted some pretty amazing questions before. I guess you were blinded by them
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Do children like her?

Does she state this on official documents? In order to do something official (like get a license, cross a border, etc)?

Are any of the following relevant?

Her age?
Race?
Salary?
Location?
Interest/hobbies?
Physical activities?
Mental activities?

Is the illegal action a felony? Misdemeanor? Does she do it alone? In cooperation with others? Would it be illegal if she in fact liked children? Does she use her apparent like of children to distract attention from the illegal activity? If authorities were aware she was lying would they be suspicious about her activities?
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Does she say "I like children", or words to that effect?see next answerDoes she say something which, for it to be true, would mean she must like children? yes

Is the "yope" to losing money because she wouldn't lose it so much as not acquire it? yes. GOOOOOOOD QUESTION!!! Because she would have to pay more for something that she currently gets for free, or at a discount? no

Would she be no longer entitled to something if she revealed that she didn't like children? yope Does she actually say she doesn't like children? noOr indicate it on a form? no Type it? no Write it? no

Is the crime she is committing fraud? yes Does she live in a country with a welfare system? irrelIs she claiming benefits noish/tax relief no under false pretences?
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Do children like her? irrel

Does she state this on official documents? yesish In order to do something official (like get a license, cross a border, etc)? yes but none of those

Are any of the following relevant?

Her age? yes
Race? no
Salary? no
Location? anywhere in US is fine
Interest/hobbies? no, except for an interest in children
Physical activities? ditto
Mental activities? ditto

Is the illegal action a felony? probably Misdemeanor? noDoes she do it alone? noishIn cooperation with others? yesish Would it be illegal if she in fact liked children? no Does she use her apparent like of children to distract attention from the illegal activity? noIf authorities were aware she was lying would they be suspicious about her activities? yes
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I posted some pretty amazing questions before. You bet!!I guess you were blinded by them. Rectified, with my apologies!!
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Does she get an allowance for something? Does she get vouchers?

Does she imply that she has children? That she is going to have a child? Does she pretend to be pregnant?

Does she claim that she does things with the children she works with that in fact she doesn't? Does she claim expenses she doesn't actually incur?

Is she defrauding her employers? The state? A financial institution?
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Does she get an allowance for something? no Does she get vouchers? no

Does she imply that she has children? no That she is going to have a child?no Does she pretend to be pregnant? no

Does she claim that she does things with the children she works with that in fact she doesn't? no Does she claim expenses she doesn't actually incur? no

Is she defrauding her employers? no The state? yope or yesishA financial institution? no
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Does she receive actual money? Or something else of material value? A lump sum? A regular payment? From the government? If it was known that she didn't like children, would she be unable to receive the money? Would it be revealed that she had been committing a crime?

Is the money she receives intended as payment for some service? As compensation for something? As aid for someone who needs it? Can some people get money in this way through legal means?

Does she have the job working with children because this is necessary for her crime? Or would she have that job anyway? Did she get the job under false pretences?

Does she pretend to like a specific thing about children? To enjoy doing a specific thing with children? To want to help children? Or just that she generally likes children? That she wants to spend time with them?
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Does she receive actual money? yesOr something else of material value? noA lump sum? yesA regular payment? no From the government? no If it was known that she didn't like children, would she be unable to receive the money? yopeWould it be revealed that she had been committing a crime? yes

Is the money she receives intended as payment for some service? noAs compensation for something? yesAs aid for someone who needs it? no Can some people get money in this way through legal means?yes

Does she have the job working with children because this is necessary for her crime? false assumption & BLOOOOPERRRRALERTTTTT!! HER JOB DOES NOT HAVE TO DO WITH CHILDREN. I MADE A BLOOOOOOPERRRRRRR EARLIER!!!Or would she have that job anyway? see previous answerDid she get the job under false pretences? ditto

Does she pretend to like a specific thing about children? no To enjoy doing a specific thing with children? yesTo want to help children? more specific Or just that she generally likes children? dittoThat she wants to spend time with them? ditto
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Is the money given to her directly because people think she likes children? Because they think she does a particular thing with children? Does she get it some other way, but when people ask her what she's doing she can't say 'I'm committing fraud' so has an excuse that implies she likes children? Is the pretending to like children more a way of covering her back while she commits her crime?

Does she pretend to enjoy working with children? To enjoy doing child-related charity work? Is adoption relevant? Is a specific age, or age group of child relevant? Is there a particular group of children she pretends to like? Is education relevant?
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Is the money given to her directly because people think she likes children? yope Because they think she does a particular thing with children? no Does she get it some other way, but when people ask her what she's doing she can't say 'I'm committing fraud' so has an excuse that implies she likes children? noishIs the pretending to like children more a way of covering her back while she commits her crime? no

Does she pretend to enjoy working with children? no To enjoy doing child-related charity work? no Is adoption relevant? noish or yope Is a specific age, or age group of child relevant? noIs there a particular group of children she pretends to like? yesishIs education relevant? no
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Does she pretend to like a specific group of children, ie particular children who actually exist? Or a category of children? Eg poor children? Ethnic minority children? Disabled children? Orphans? Children in care? Fostering relevant?
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Does she pretend to like a specific group of children, ie particular children who actually exist? noOr a category of children? yes Eg poor children? noEthnic minority children? noDisabled children? no Orphans? noChildren in care? no Fostering relevant? no
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Are there international implications? Does she imply that what she does helps children in some way? Does she obtain money under false pretenses? Could one of these false pretenses involve adoption under certain circumstances?

Kidnapping or slavery relevant?
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Are there international implications? no Does she imply that what she does helps children in some way? noDoes she obtain money under false pretenses? yesCould one of these false pretenses involve adoption under certain circumstances? no

Kidnapping or slavery relevant? no
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Does she raise money for children's charities?
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Does she raise money for children's charities? no
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does she receive money as compensation for not having children? not working with children?

is she infertile?
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does she receive money as compensation for not having children? yes not working with children? no

is she infertile? yes
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Was she made infertile as the result of some accident? As the result of negligence by an individual or company? Through the fault of someone other than her? Or is she claiming she was? Is she suing anyone? Would she not receive the compensation if it was known that she had never wanted children so being infertile didn't affect her? Is she claiming for money to cover the costs of having to adopt instead? The costs of fertility treatment?
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Was she made infertile as the result of some accident? yesish As the result of negligence by an individual yes or company no? Through the fault of someone other than her? yes Or is she claiming she was? yesIs she suing anyone? yesWould she not receive the compensation if it was known that she had never wanted children so being infertile didn't affect her? yes Is she claiming for money to cover the costs of having to adopt instead? noThe costs of fertility treatment? no

********* SPOILER ***********
Like me, Leonie is a totally non-maternal person & has never wanted children. Unlike me, L. has become infertile through a botched medical procedure. Also unlike TERRIBLY UPRIGHT ME, she is willing to lie for financial gain. So she pretends that she has always wanted to have children, which enables her to sue for compensatory damages. Thanks for solving it, clever Enjoy. and, everyone please check out my new puzzle!!!!

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