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Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 531 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 5:02 pm: |      |
Hi all, it's been a long long time since last time I showed up on the forum, and I'm not sure how frequently I'll be able to come again to answer, but it's one week I had this idea in mind for a puzzle, I just could not resist :-) Enjoy! At first she was upset. Then she was perplexed. But in the end she was really happy! |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3231 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 7:59 pm: |      |
she = H/A/F? was she upset because she misunderstood or misinterpreted something? had someone arranged a lovely surprise for her? |
Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum
Post Number: 253 Registered: 2-2012
| | Posted on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 12:38 am: |      |
Ok, so did a single question or statement by some human provoke all of these emotions? Would the word "romantic" be relevant? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 532 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 2:33 pm: |      |
she = H/A/F? Yes. Though puzzle would work with HAM too. was she upset because she misunderstood or misinterpreted something? No. had someone arranged a lovely surprise for her? No. Ok, so did a single question or statement by some human provoke all of these emotions? Yes, for SVV of "question or statement". Would the word "romantic" be relevant? No. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3234 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 7:22 pm: |      |
was it something she read? on the internet? in an email? tweet? facebook? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17333 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, August 02, 2012 - 1:49 pm: |      |
Welcome back Mattiel! Was she reading (or hearing) a story? Were her reactions at different parts of the story? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 533 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 02, 2012 - 4:22 pm: |      |
was it something she read? YES on the internet? No in an email? No but OTRT tweet? No facebook? No Welcome back Mattiel! Thanks Balin! Was she reading (or hearing) a story? Were her reactions at different parts of the story? No to both |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1562 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 - 9:21 am: |      |
Did she read a text message on a mobile phone? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 534 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 - 9:24 am: |      |
Did she read a text message on a mobile phone? No, moving away from that right track... :-) |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1605 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 - 2:44 pm: |      |
In a letter? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 535 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 2:36 pm: |      |
In a letter? YES! |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17350 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 10:37 pm: |      |
Was the letter in code? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 536 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 06, 2012 - 11:08 am: |      |
Was the letter in code? No |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1574 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 9:00 am: |      |
Was it a formal letter? Did she get the letter from someone personally known to her? From a public institution? Was it a friendly letter? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 537 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 9:13 am: |      |
Was it a formal letter? YES! Did she get the letter from someone personally known to her? No From a public institution? YES, exactly! Was it a friendly letter? So no |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1577 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 9:18 am: |      |
Was the letter from a court? From a tax institution? Did she get upset before she opened the letter? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 538 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 10:50 am: |      |
Was the letter from a court? No, but OTRT From a tax institution? Still no, but still OTRT Did she get upset before she opened the letter? No |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1580 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 1:23 pm: |      |
Did she learn from the letter that she must pay something? That she will be paid some money? That she will be punished? Did she expect the letter? Did she have any ongoing affairs in the institution that issued the letter? Did she work for that institution? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 539 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 2:08 pm: |      |
Did she learn from the letter that she must pay something? YES! That she will be paid some money? So no That she will be punished? Yes, DOYD of "punished" Did she expect the letter? No Did she have any ongoing affairs in the institution that issued the letter? No Did she work for that institution? And no You're getting very close to understand why she got upset, which is of course essential to the rest of the puzzle, but which is the simplest part too. The two others will be more interesting ;-) |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1583 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 2:27 pm: |      |
Was the letter from the police? Did she get a ticket for a violation of traffic rules? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 541 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 3:57 pm: |      |
Was the letter from the police? Exactly! Did she get a ticket for a violation of traffic rules? Hmmm Yes and No. There is one word in this sentence which is false, which may lead to FA, rest is true. |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1587 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 2:45 pm: |      |
Was she going to be arrested? Did she violate any traffic rules? Was she going to pay the fine? To avoid paying? Relevant? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 544 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 2:47 pm: |      |
Was she going to be arrested? No, beware FA. Did she violate any traffic rules? Yope, always FA underlying here. Was she going to pay the fine? Yes... To avoid paying? ...so no... Relevant? ...but irrel. |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1590 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 2:53 pm: |      |
Was the letter adressed to her? Did she commit any relevant criminal offense? Was the letter a mistake? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 545 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 2:54 pm: |      |
Was the letter adressed to her? NO! Good point! Did she commit any relevant criminal offense? No, not her. Was the letter a mistake? No. |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1592 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 3:01 pm: |      |
Did she know that the letter was not adressed to her before she opened it? Was the letter adressed to her relative? Someone she lived with? A neighbour? Was she obliged to pay fine for someone else? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 546 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 4:07 pm: |      |
Did she know that the letter was not adressed to her before she opened it? Maybe, not really relevant. Say yes. Was the letter adressed to her relative? YES! To make it simple, her boyfriend Someone she lived with? YES! A neighbour? So no Was she obliged to pay fine for someone else? No, wrong track |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1593 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 9:21 am: |      |
Did she learn something new about her boyfriend from the letter? Did she break up with her boyfriend as a result of what she read? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 548 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 9:42 am: |      |
Did she learn something new about her boyfriend from the letter? YES, EXACTLY! But beware, this concerns already points 2 and 3. Did she break up with her boyfriend as a result of what she read? Not at all |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1595 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 10:26 am: |      |
Did the new information directly make her happy? Did she draw any conclusions from the letter, that made her happy? Is it relevant what type of criminal offense was described in the letter? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 549 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 10:35 am: |      |
Did the new information directly make her happy? Yes Did she draw any conclusions from the letter, that made her happy? Yes Is it relevant what type of criminal offense was described in the letter? And Yes, too :-) |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1599 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 11:55 am: |      |
Was her boyfriend charged for speeding? Drunk driving? Collission? Inappropriate parking? Was he involved in the incident as a car driver? Pedestrian? Bus passenger? Bike driver? Motorcycle driver? Was she happy because of his behaviour after the incident? Because of the fact that he possessed the car at all? Did she learn something important about their future? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 550 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 12:14 pm: |      |
Was her boyfriend charged for speeding? Yes! Drunk driving? Collission? Inappropriate parking? So no to rest Was he involved in the incident as a car driver? Pedestrian? Bus passenger? Bike driver? Motorcycle driver? No to all Was she happy because of his behaviour after the incident? Because of the fact that he possessed the car at all? No to all Did she learn something important about their future? Hmmm possibly, but that's not very relevant... |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1600 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 12:48 pm: |      |
Is it relevant what was he driving? If yes: a ship? a plane? a tram? a train? a bus? a lorry? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 551 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 1:00 pm: |      |
Is it relevant what was he driving? If yes: a ship? a plane? a tram? a train? a bus? a lorry? Well actually yes, and none of the above. But there is another more relevant thing. After you discover it, I'll do a short recap |
Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner
Post Number: 1107 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 1:20 pm: |      |
Was it a car? a convertible? a motor bike? a bicycle? (one never knows ..) Did she got from this the information that he owns such a vehicle? Was there a photo attached to the speeding ticket? Was the vehicle visible on the photo? Did she recognize the vehicle? Was there something else of relevance visible on the photo? a girl sitting next to him? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1619 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 1:22 pm: |      |
Is it relevant where he was when he was caught? Somewhere he shouldn't have been? Somewhere she didn't know he had been? Did she suspect him of being unfaithful? Had he been? Was the vehicle his? Was she surprised to learn that he had been driving that vehicle? Is it relevant what the punishment was? A fine? Did he have to appear in court? Would he lose his license? Was the original upset feeling on behalf of her boyfriend, because he had been caught? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 552 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 1:53 pm: |      |
Is it relevant where he was when he was caught? YES, for SVV of "Where" Somewhere he shouldn't have been? Somewhere she didn't know he had been? Did she suspect him of being unfaithful? Had he been? No to rest Was the vehicle his? Yes Was she surprised to learn that he had been driving that vehicle? So no Is it relevant what the punishment was? No A fine? Say this Did he have to appear in court? No, irrel. Would he lose his license? Maybe, irrel. Was the original upset feeling on behalf of her boyfriend, because he had been caught? Hmm not really. She was just upset because of the fine. |
Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner
Post Number: 1109 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 3:18 pm: |      |
(in addition to my previous set of questions ..) "where" as in geographical location? "where" as in what kind of vehicle? Was she happy about something her boyfriend has done? has achieved? was able to do? Was she afraid something bad might have happened to her boyfriend? and the speeding ticket showed that he was alive and ok? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 553 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 3:27 pm: |      |
Sorry Sundowner, I totally skipped your previous round of questions :-( Was it a car? This a convertible? a motor bike? a bicycle? (one never knows ..) So no to rest Did she got from this the information that he owns such a vehicle? No Was there a photo attached to the speeding ticket? Irrel Was the vehicle visible on the photo? Did she recognize the vehicle? Irrel to both Was there something else of relevance visible on the photo? a girl sitting next to him? No to both "where" as in geographical location? "where" as in what kind of vehicle? None of these really, but first is closer, second is false Was she happy about something her boyfriend has done? has achieved? was able to do? THIS, very good point! Was she afraid something bad might have happened to her boyfriend? and the speeding ticket showed that he was alive and ok? No to these |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1620 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 4:18 pm: |      |
Did she discover that he was able to drive? That he had passed his test? That he could go somewhere she thought he couldn't? Relevant what country he was in? What city? Whether he was in an urban or rural area? What kind of road he was on? Was the perplexed feeling because she wondered how he had got a speeding ticket if he couldn't do a certain thing, then happy when she realised he could do that thing? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 554 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 7:42 pm: |      |
Did she discover that he was able to drive? Noish That he had passed his test? No That he could go somewhere she thought he couldn't? Noish Relevant what country he was in? No What city? Neither Whether he was in an urban or rural area? Yesish What kind of road he was on? YES!!! Was the perplexed feeling because she wondered how he had got a speeding ticket if he couldn't do a certain thing, then happy when she realised he could do that thing? YOU GOT IT! Now you just have do discover what! |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 555 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 7:43 pm: |      |
You just have TO discover what, of course... |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3261 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 11:33 pm: |      |
driving on a motorway? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 556 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 4:28 am: |      |
driving on a motorway? Yes! You should have all the pieces now! |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1622 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 2:33 pm: |      |
Had he not been allowed to drive on motorways? Had been too scared to? Or did she believe one of the above things to be true? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3265 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 9:48 pm: |      |
did it mean he had passed his driving test? |
Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel
Post Number: 557 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2012 - 12:11 pm: |      |
Had he not been allowed to drive on motorways? Had been too scared to? THIS! Or did she believe one of the above things to be true? did it mean he had passed his driving test? Ok, sorry for the long silence, but the puzzled was actually complete, so time for a SPOILER Our hero is no longer able to drive on the motorway, since he suffers from panic attacks. One day his gf, which has always tried to push him to try to defeat his fear, finds a speeding fine in their mailbox. She is upset as first, as everybody would be when receiving a fine. Then she is perplexed, as she didn't remember driving on the motorway that day. Finally she realizes the fine is addressed to his bf, not to her, meaning he has been able to drive on the motorway again, therefore she is very happy that he has won his fear. The guy in the puzzle is actually me, I'm having panic attacks on the motorway since years, I didn't solve the problem yet but I'm working on it, this gave me the idea for the puzzle :-) Thanks everybody for playing! |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3301 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2012 - 12:40 pm: |      |
thanks for the puzzle Mattiel and I do hope you conquer problem soon. Maybe you'll get a speeding ticket sometime soon! |