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Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 12:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is a hive
Upon a nave.
It is alive
To make behave.
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 2:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm where to start...

Is this a beehive? or one of those itchy things?

Nave as in the central part of a church? Is the hive alive or the nave?
Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 6:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Peter,

Is this a beehive? or one of those itchy things?
YES, NO

Nave as in the central part of a church?
YES

Is the hive alive
YES

or the nave?
NO
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 11:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The hive is alive -- does this mean the hive is full of bees?
Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 8:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Balin,

The hive is alive -- does this mean the hive is full of bees?

YES
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 10:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is honey relevant ? Does the buzzing sound of the bees mask the sound of something else? Is the hive's presence tolerated? Encouraged?
Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 4:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Peter,

Is honey relevant?
NO

Does the buzzing sound of the bees mask the sound of something else?
NO

Is the hive's presence tolerated? Encouraged?
YES, YES
Biograd (Biograd)
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Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 9:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To make behave: to make the churchgoers behave? the clergy? or are you referring to the behavior of the bees themselves?
Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Biograd,

To make behave: to make the churchgoers behave? the clergy?
NO, NO

or are you referring to the behavior of the bees themselves?
NO
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 3:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Honey relevant?
Sundowner (Sundowner)
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 7:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"upon" as in physically upon/above/over, i.e. on the rooftop? outside the church building? or under the roof? somewhere else in the nave?
Was the beehive put up there by humans? on purpose? or was it a wild bee's nest?
Was the beehive there mainly for a practical purpose? did the bees help to spread pollen?
if it was not the churchgoers who should be made behave .. then maybe the non-churchgoers?
Was there a common legend that the bees would sting those who do not go to church regularly?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 7:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The bees - are they a metaphor for churchgoers? Are they bees as in the animal? If yes: alive? depicted? made in stone(as in a sculpture)?
Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 9:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Balin, Sundowner and Rbruma,

Honey relevant?
NO

"upon" as in physically upon/above/over, i.e. on the rooftop? outside the church building? or under the roof? somewhere else in the nave?
YES, YES, NO, NO

Was the beehive put up there by humans? on purpose? or was it a wild bee's nest?
YES, YES, NO

Was the beehive there mainly for a practical purpose?
YES

did the bees help to spread pollen?
IRRELEVANT

if it was not the churchgoers who should be made behave .. then maybe the non-churchgoers?
CLARIFY

Was there a common legend that the bees would sting those who do not go to church regularly?
NO

The bees - are they a metaphor for churchgoers?
NO

Are they bees as in the animal? If yes: alive?
YES, YES,

depicted? made in stone(as in a sculpture)?
NO
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 10:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the hive there to send a message to members of other churches? Is it meant to attract new converts? is it a warning of some sort? or a scare tactic? is sin relevant?

Is the practical function they perform based on how the bees interact with Humans? other animals?
Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 12:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Peter,

Is the hive there to send a message to members of other churches? Is it meant to attract new converts?
NO, NO

is it a warning of some sort? or a scare tactic?
YES - ISH, YES - ISH

is sin relevant?
NO

Is the practical function they perform based on how the bees interact with Humans? other animals?
YES, NO
Sundowner (Sundowner)
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 1:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the purpose of the hive to protect the church from being destroyed? did this happen during war time?
Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 7:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sundowner,

Was the purpose of the hive to protect the church from being destroyed?
NO

did this happen during war time?
NO
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 10:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Stealing lead from Church roofs used to be a common crime. Are the bees there to scare off would be thieves?
Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 5:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Peter,

Correct.

* * * SPOILER * * *

A church which suffered when lead was stolen from its roof has installed a number of bee hives on the roof as a deterrent for thieves.
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2012 - 7:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hooray a shot in the dark pays off. Nice idea but a bit depressing that people would steal from a church.

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