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Because she is so popular, people think she's like a restaurant. How come?
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Could it be so simple as to get it your way?
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Could it be so simple as to get it your way? No!! I should hope not!!
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Is she an adult woman? Child? Teenager?

Is she popular in the sense that she has a lot of friends? That almost everyone who knows her likes her? Is she professionally popular? A popular choice for one specific thing?

Is her job relevant? Her name?

Do they think she is like a specific restaurant?
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Is she an adult woman? possibly Child? possibly Teenager? possibly

Is she popular in the sense that she has a lot of friends? yope That almost everyone who knows her likes her? No--GOOOOOOOD QUESTION!!Is she professionally popular? What does that mean?A popular choice for one specific thing? no

Is her job relevant? no Her name? no

Do they think she is like a specific restaurant? yes or yesish
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By professionally popular I meant, for example getting a lot of clients without necessarily having a lot of friends (eg a popular hairdresser would just be one who a lot of people go to).

Do people want to be her friend, or to be associated with her, even if they don't like her? Do most people dislike her?

Is a particular advertising slogan relevant?

Is the restaurant a fast food one? An upscale one? A chain of restaurants? Is the food served by the restaurant relevant? The branding? The service? The set-up (eg self-service vs waiter service)?
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By professionally popular I meant, for example getting a lot of clients without necessarily having a lot of friends (eg a popular hairdresser would just be one who a lot of people go to).No, she's not professionally popular

Do people want to be her friend, or to be associated with her, even if they don't like her? yes Do most people dislike her? yes

Is a particular advertising slogan relevant? no

Is the restaurant a fast food one? irrelAn upscale one? ditto A chain of restaurants? dittoIs the food served by the restaurant relevant? noThe branding? no The service? noish or yopeThe set-up (eg self-service vs waiter service)? no
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I apologize, I don''t know why it reminded me of a Burger King ad. Now I'm thinking of an Ames Brother's song, is she a baby and by that I mean like only nine days old? give or take a day.
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Is the phrase "Over 1 million served" relevant?

When you say like a restaurant, do you mean a fast food chain? Sit down restaurant? Fine dining? (i.e. Only the rich can afford to eat there?)
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I apologize, I don''t know why it reminded me of a Burger King ad. Now I'm thinking of an Ames Brother's song, is she a baby and by that I mean like only nine days old? nogive or take a day.
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Is the phrase "Over 1 million served" relevant?no

When you say like a restaurant, do you mean a fast food chain? irrelSit down restaurant? irrel Fine dining? irrel (i.e. Only the rich can afford to eat there? irrel)
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is her work popular? is she a novelist? musician? recording artist? model?
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Does she have high social status? Is she rich? Do people get some benefit from being friends with her even though they dislike her? If so, a financial benefit? Social benefit?
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is her work popular? is she a novelist? musician? recording artist? model? no to all
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Does she have high social status? Yes, within her circle Is she rich? irrel Do people get some benefit from being friends with her even though they dislike her? yesIf so, a financial benefit? noSocial benefit? yes
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Does it have anything to do with the restaurant mascot or logo?
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Does it have anything to do with the restaurant mascot or logo? no
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Would it help to find out what her circle is? Is where she lives relevant? Her appearance?

Is it relevant why people dislike her?

Is she like a restaurant in the sense that something which is true of the restaurant is also true of her? If so, is it literally true of one and figuratively true of the other? Literally true of both? Figuratively true of both?
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Would it help to find out what her circle is? no Is where she lives relevant? noHer appearance? no

Is it relevant why people dislike her? yes

Is she like a restaurant in the sense that something which is true of the restaurant is also true of her? yesishIf so, is it literally true of one and figuratively true of the other? Literally true of both? Figuratively true of both? literally-ish true of her, figuratively-ish true of the restaurant
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Is she hard to figure out, her personality is like a menu? Does she have multiple personalities?
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does she smell? :oD
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Do they dislike her because she is selfish? Mean? Cruel? A criminal? Violent? Unpleasant to her friends? Because they envy her? Do people want to be friends with her in order to benefit from her high status? To achieve high status themselves? To benefit themselves professionally? Does she have friends in high places?

Does she know that her 'friends' don't like her?
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Is she hard to figure out, her personality is like a menu? no Does she have multiple personalities? no
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does she smell? :oD no
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Do they dislike her because she is selfish? no Mean? no Cruel? No--how is cruel different from mean?A criminal? noViolent? no Unpleasant to her friends? no Because they envy her? yes Do people want to be friends with her in order to benefit from her high status? yesTo achieve high status themselves? yesTo benefit themselves professionally? noDoes she have friends in high places? She is in the high place with resect to status.

Does she know that her 'friends' don't like her?probably but irrel
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I would say that cruel means deliberately causing or allowing others to suffer, mean is more to do with not being generous.

Are the similarities between her and the restaurant any of the following:

Having a lot of friends/customers?
Not actually being liked?
Being prestigious?
Conferring benefits to those who associate with them?
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I would say that cruel means deliberately causing or allowing others to suffer, mean is more to do with not being generous.'Mean' is actually ambiguous between meaning stingy & meaning cruel.

Are the similarities between her and the restaurant any of the following:

Having a lot of friends/customers? yes
Not actually being liked? no
Being prestigious? no
Conferring benefits to those who associate with them? no
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Is it relevant what she does with her friends? When she spends time with them? How much time she spends with them?

Is the restaurant she is compared to a popular one? One that serves good quality food? Does it serve a particular type of food?

Is the comparison implying that her 'friends' are more like customers? That they come to get what they want rather than because they enjoy spending time with her?
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Is it relevant what she does with her friends? noWhen she spends time with them? noHow much time she spends with them? no

Is the restaurant she is compared to a popular one? yesOne that serves good quality food? irrelDoes it serve a particular type of food? irrel

Is the comparison implying that her 'friends' are more like customers? no That they come to get what they want rather than because they enjoy spending time with her? no
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Is it more like the village bicycle comparison? Everybody's taken a ride?

The restaurant comparison... directly related to food? Drinks? Buffets? Menu? Seating capacity? Smoking? Non-smoking? Age requirement? Dress code? Wait staff? Prices? Impact on bowels or stomach?
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Is it more like the village bicycle comparison? noEverybody's taken a ride? no

The restaurant comparison... directly related to food? no Drinks? no Buffets? noMenu? no Seating capacity? yesSmoking? noNon-smoking? no Age requirement? no Dress code? noWait staff? no Prices? noImpact on bowels or stomach? no
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Seating capacity... reservations relevant? number served? Wait time to get in?
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Seating capacity... reservations relevant? yope number served? yesish Wait time to get in? yes
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Is it difficult for her friends to find time when she is free? Do they have to "book her up" in advance?
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Is it difficult for her friends to find time when she is free? no Do they have to "book her up" in advance? no
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HINT: A famous quotation is relevant here. Find out what it is.
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"First come, first serve" relevant?
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"First come, first serve" relevant? no. The remark isn't THAT famous, but I bet most Americans on this forum will have heard of it and that many non-Americans will too. Familiarity with the remark will be helpful in solving the puzzle, but not essential.
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Is the quotation to do with restaurants? A particular restaurant? To do with having to wait to get into a restaurant? Is it relevant that having a wait to get in may not represent the actual quality of a restaurant?
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Is the quotation to do with restaurants? see next answer A particular restaurant? yesTo do with having to wait to get into a restaurant? yesish Is it relevant that having a wait to get in may not represent the actual quality of a restaurant? no
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Is it a quotation by a particular famous person? Is it from a book? Film? TV show? Or more of a general well-known phrase?

Does the quotation mention queues? Bookings? Being turned away? Is it a quote by a person who had waited a long time to get into a restaurant?
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Is it a quotation by a particular famous person? yesIs it from a book? noFilm? noTV show? no Or more of a general well-known phrase? yes

Does the quotation mention queues? no, or at least, not specifcally Bookings? dittoBeing turned away? ditto Is it a quote by a person who had waited a long time to get into a restaurant? possibly but not necessarily
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"Love all, serve all"?
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"Love all, serve all"?No --I never even heard that before!!
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"Love all, serve all"?No --I never even heard that before!!

Really? It is a quite famous quote from the Indian guru Sai Baba.
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"Love all, serve all"?No --I never even heard that before!!

Really? It is a quite famous quote from the Indian guru Sai Baba.Obvious question: Would he want people to love & serve Hitler?
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I'm not very much into guruism, so I'm hardly the right person to answer that rhetorical question. I think it is a quite esotheric godly imperative to Man that he shall love and do good towards all, and so in turn will he and all benefit from that. The guru probably would (but now I'm only guessing) predict that if people showed Hitler a deep enough love, it would have conquered and overpowered his bad thoughts and acts.

I guess you'd better read about this from a more direct source, and you can for instance start here:

http://www.saidarshan.org/baba/docs/lasa.html

BTW: As an act of love and service, I offer you my very best wishes for the New Year! May your life prosper and may your mind and soul flourish to create a profliferation of great lateral puzzles in 2013!

(Was this guruish enough? I wonder...)


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I'm not very much into guruism, so I'm hardly the right person to answer that rhetorical question. I think it is a quite esotheric godly imperative to Man that he shall love and do good towards all, and so in turn will he and all benefit from that. The guru probably would (but now I'm only guessing) predict that if people showed Hitler a deep enough love, it would have conquered and overpowered his bad thoughts and acts.To put it mildly, this seems implausible -- to put it VERY mildly!!

I guess you'd better read about this from a more direct source, and you can for instance start here:

http://www.saidarshan.org/baba/docs/lasa.html

BTW: As an act of love and service, I offer you my very best wishes for the New Year! May your life prosper and may your mind and soul flourish to create a profliferation of great lateral puzzles in 2013! And so in likewise to you!!

(Was this guruish enough? I wonder...)
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is the gist of the comment that she has more people wanting to be friends with her than she can give time to? or can be bothered to give time to? or that she has so many people wanting to be friends that she can pick and choose who to be friends with? does the comment about the restaurant imply that they can pick and choose? that they turn custom away? that they can turn away people who aren't the right sort?
is the relevant restaurant a posh one? one that people might think would like to keep out the riff-raff?
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is the gist of the comment that she has more people wanting to be friends with her than she can give time to? no or can be bothered to give time to? noish or that she has so many people wanting to be friends that she can pick and choose who to be friends with? no does the comment about the restaurant imply that they can pick and choose? nothat they turn custom away? that they can turn away people who aren't the right sort? no
is the relevant restaurant a posh one?unlikely one that people might think would like to keep out the riff-raff? ditto
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is the relevant restaurant a fast food restaurant? is the relevant feature that they can serve people quickly?
is the feature about her that she has a high turnover of friends? that they are disposable? always a new one to replace an old?

does the feature involve how nutritious the food is? is junk food relevant?
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is the relevant restaurant a fast food restaurant? irrelis the relevant feature that they can serve people quickly? no
is the feature about her that she has a high turnover of friends? no that they are disposable? always a new one to replace an old? no

does the feature involve how nutritious the food is? no is junk food relevant? much as I LOVE junk food, no
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Is the food of the restaurant relevant at all? Is it a single restaurant? Or a restaurant chain? Waiting relevant? Calling the restaurant relevant? Or contacting them in some other way without going there?
Does the quote compare the difficulty of doing something?
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Is the food of the restaurant relevant at all? no or noishIs it a single restaurant? irrel Or a restaurant chain? irrel Waiting relevant? yes Calling the restaurant relevant? noish Or contacting them in some other way without going there? no
Does the quote compare the difficulty of doing something? yesish
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Waiting: standing in a queue? Standing in a crowd? Waiting for a waiter relevant? For a place to sit? Going to a popular place only because it's popular and for no other reason? Eating food you don't like relevant? Food you don't understand?
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Waiting: standing in a queue? relevant Standing in a crowd? ditto Waiting for a waiter relevant?yes For a place to sit? yes Going to a popular place only because it's popular and for no other reason? irrel Eating food you don't like relevant? no Food you don't understand? no
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Is a pun or play on words relevant?
Is the idea of being ignored relevant? Waiting a long time for service? Trying to get attention?
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Is a pun or play on words relevant? no
Is the idea of being ignored relevant? no Waiting a long time for service? yope Trying to get attention? no
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Is getting noticed relevant? Getting noticed by the popular girl or the waiter? How much time you get spent on you?
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Is getting noticed relevant? noGetting noticed by the popular girl or the waiter? no How much time you get spent on you? no
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Is waiting the relevant connection? Are there other relevant connections? "Waiter" as either a person who takes orders or a person who waits, relevant? Does a popular girl have many "waiters"?
Time spent waiting relevant? Place spent waiting? Waiting together with other people relevant?
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Is waiting the relevant connection? noAre there other relevant connections? yes "Waiter" as either a person who takes orders no or a person who waits yes, but the specific word 'waiter' is irrel, relevant? Does a popular girl have many "waiters"? irrel
Time spent waiting relevant? yes Place spent waiting? yesish Waiting together with other people relevant?yesish
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Is standing in line relevant?
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Is standing in line relevant? yesish
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Waiting in relation to the girl: waiting to meet her? Waiting to speak to her? Waiting to get noticed by her? Waiting for her to: say something? Do something? Arrive? Leave?
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Waiting in relation to the girl: waiting to meet her? Waiting to speak to her? Waiting to get noticed by her? Waiting for her to: say something? Do something? Arrive? Leave? no to all HINT: It;s not the waiting line itself that's relevant but what it indicates
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Is the well known phrase an idiom?

Do people wait for her?
Do they think she is always busy?

Do they think she is pretty? in a position of power? has a lot of sex?

Do the people that compare her to a restaurant wish to benefit from the same elevation in status that they believe she provides?
Do people actually acquire this elevation in status due to her? would those people make this comparison between her and a restaurant?

Would it be unkind to make this comparison in front of her?
Is it generally perceived as an insult? a compliment?

Relevant whether or not what people believe of her is true?
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Is the well known phrase an idiom? In the USA, yes. Elsewhere, I'm not sure.

Do people wait for her? irrel
Do they think she is always busy?

Do they think she is pretty? probably in a position of power? ditto has a lot of sex? irrel

Do the people that compare her to a restaurant wish to benefit from the same elevation in status that they believe she provides? irrel
Do people actually acquire this elevation in status due to her? possibly would those people make this comparison between her and a restaurant? possibly

Would it be unkind to make this comparison in front of her? yes
Is it generally perceived as an insult? not necessarilya compliment? unlikely but poswsible

Relevant whether or not what people believe of her is true?yope
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HUGE HINT: The famous quotation comes from Yogi Berra.
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"Nobody goes there anymore - it's too crowded?"
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"Nobody goes there anymore - it's too crowded?" YES!! So how is a popular girl like that restaurant. It's NOT because people assume she's too busy for them!!
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Is she like it in that some people choose not to hang out with her precisely because she is popular? If so, because they will be in a crowd? Because they don't like her other friends?

Does someone say about her 'nobody likes her any more, she's too popular' or similar?
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Is she like it in that some people choose not to hang out with her precisely because she is popular? no If so, because they will be in a crowd? noBecause they don't like her other friends? no

Does someone say about her 'nobody likes her any more, she's too popular' or similar? yes

******* SPOILER******
Yogi Berra said of a certain restaurant, "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded," which inspired (?) the poem below (It was in The Providence Journal, 12/11/12)

Because She's So Popular

She's welcomed and flattered and favored and kissed.
She's always invited; she's first on the list.
She glides through the envy that always awaits her.
Because she's so popular, everyone hates her.

Please be inspired to check out my new puzzle!!
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Haha, great! Poor her.

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