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Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4301 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 10:43 am: |      |
Hi there puzzle pals I have three lovely daughters and Aoife (that's pronounced ee faa and is Irish for pleasant) the one in the middle is best described as being delightfully eccentric . She says and does things occasionally that I'm sure make sense in her own little world but leave the rest of the family completely puzzled. I find it a wonderfully endearing characteristic and I wanted to share with you a little story to illustrate this eccentricity. Your mission is to find out what Aoife said as a result of being asked a typical parent to child question. The brief conversation that followed and her explanation of something she had done will leave you in no doubt as to her character. So what happened? Aoife is almost 14 years old for your information and is very much human and female. |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2065 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 11:20 am: |      |
Did you ask her something? Or rather her mom did it? Relevant? Did the question refer to: what she did in school? Information on her colleagues / friends? Her opinion about something heard in the news? Are her hobbies relevant? If so, are they related to: arts? philosophy? science? political matters? economy? geography? Is the opinion expressed (if there was one) a totally pessimistic one ("we should kill them all") or a totally optimistic one("we should save them all")? Animals involved? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4303 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 11:27 am: |      |
Did you ask her something? Or rather her mom did it? Relevant? Her Mom asked but not really relevant Did the question refer to: what she did in school? Information on her colleagues / friends? Her opinion about something heard in the news? None of these Are her hobbies relevant? no If so, are they related to: arts? philosophy? science? political matters? economy? geography? Hee Hee an interesting list of potential hobby areas for a 14 year old girl. You missed hair straightening, hugging her pals as if she hasn't seen them in a year, watching awful reality TV shows & not cleaning her room. Not sure what category they fall under but those are her hobbies Is the opinion expressed (if there was one) a totally pessimistic one ("we should kill them all") or a totally optimistic one("we should save them all")? No opinions are relevant Animals involved? No |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2068 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 11:46 am: |      |
Hehe, those were not in my list when I was her age, football and doing nothing were : ) Did she (Mom) asked her about something she (Aoife) has done (or should have done) that day? That week? A "philosophical" question (where are children coming from, for example)? Or maybe something "administrative" in nature (e.g., where are your dirty clothes, did you do your homework, etc)? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4304 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 1:25 pm: |      |
Hehe, those were not in my list when I was her age, football and doing nothing were : ) Yeah it was sport all the way for me . Did she (Mom) asked her about something she (Aoife) has done (or should have done) that day? Yes and should have done is a good way to phrase this That week? A "philosophical" question (where are children coming from, for example)? No Or maybe something "administrative" in nature (e.g., where are your dirty clothes, did you do your homework, etc)? This sort of thing yes and very much in the right ballpark |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4793 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 2:11 pm: |      |
Did she ask about: clothes? Makeup? Homework? Chores? Whereabouts? Whereabouts of an object? School? Travel? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4305 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 2:50 pm: |      |
Did she ask about: clothes? Makeup? Homework? Chores? Whereabouts? Whereabouts of an object? School? Travel? None of these but a good list all the same. I'm sure you were all asked this question when you were children. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17546 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 5:09 pm: |      |
Is her daily routine relevant? (wake up, wash up, eat, etc...) Electronics relevant? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4309 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 6:05 pm: |      |
Is her daily routine relevant? Yes(wake up, wash up this for a specific example, eat, etc...) Electronics relevant? No |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17547 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 6:43 pm: |      |
Washing hair? Taking a shower? Taking a bath? If either of the latter, is the word "taking" relevant? "No, I couldn't take a shower because I couldn't get the fixture out of the wall"? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4310 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 8:45 pm: |      |
Washing hair? Taking a shower? Taking a bath? None of these If either of the latter, is the word "taking" relevant? "No, I couldn't take a shower because I couldn't get the fixture out of the wall"? Ha Ha but no to all |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 3121 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2012 - 9:57 pm: |      |
Washing her hands? If so, after using the restroom? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2070 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 8:47 am: |      |
Was the question simply:"Did you wash yourself / your clothes"? Or the washing part was just an example and has nothing to do with the actual question? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4311 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 11:01 am: |      |
Washing her hands? yes If so, after using the restroom? No but before eating a meal Was the question simply:"Did you wash yourself / your clothes"? Or the washing part was just an example and has nothing to do with the actual question? No Ok the question has been established and the circumstances i.e. Did you wash your hands before dinner? Now ask yourself how this little scene might have continued |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17549 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 11:29 am: |      |
Was the question asked before/during/after dinner? Did her answer reflect that the question did not say it had to be that day's dinner? Or maybe "Yes, nine hours before"? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4312 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 1:53 pm: |      |
Was the question asked before/during/after dinner? Before Did her answer reflect that the question did not say it had to be that day's dinner? Or maybe "Yes, nine hours before"? No to both. As a small hint let's say she answered with a hesitant yes |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 3126 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 2:55 pm: |      |
"Yes but I didn't use soap"? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4313 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 3:06 pm: |      |
"Yes but I didn't use soap"? Hee Hee no, put yourself in the adults position 'Did you wash your hands before dinner?' 'Emm yes' What would your next statement be. |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 3128 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 5:37 pm: |      |
Hmm, I can remember as a kid that if there was any hesitation in our answer, my parents would say "go do it again". OTRT? Had she actually washed her hands? Had she done something after washing her hands to make them dirty again? |
Solo1 (Solo1)
New member Username: Solo1
Post Number: 179 Registered: 5-2012
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 5:41 pm: |      |
Didn't say dinner _today_, did she? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3368 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2012 - 6:45 pm: |      |
did her Mum say "show me your hands then"? |
Rogerchang (Rogerchang)
New member Username: Rogerchang
Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 5:00 am: |      |
Was she hiding something from her Mom (except her dirty hands)? Her Mom asked her to wash her hands (again?) to her eccentric reply?? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4317 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 12:33 pm: |      |
Hmm, I can remember as a kid that if there was any hesitation in our answer, my parents would say "go do it again". OTRT? Somewhat see below Had she actually washed her hands? Probably not Had she done something after washing her hands to make them dirty again? No |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4318 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 12:38 pm: |      |
Didn't say dinner _today_, did she? No did her Mum say "show me your hands then"? Yes Was she hiding something from her Mom (except her dirty hands)? No Her Mom asked her to wash her hands (again?) to her eccentric reply?? No Ok we're making progress. Aoife was asked to show her hands and when she did it provoked a 'what on earth' reaction from both her parents and led to her very surreal explanation. What was on her hands and more importantly how did she explain herself? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4319 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 12:39 pm: |      |
Oh and welcome to the forum Rogerchang |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3375 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 2:01 pm: |      |
was there paint on her hands? ink? mud? were her nails painted? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 2564 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 3:53 pm: |      |
Was something written on her hands? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17560 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 12:25 am: |      |
Did she show something on which the words "your hands" were written? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4320 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 1:34 pm: |      |
was there paint on her hands? ink? this and something else mud? No to rest were her nails painted?yes but not relevant |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4321 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 1:34 pm: |      |
Was something written on her hands? Yes but there's something else there as well |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4322 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 1:35 pm: |      |
Did she show something on which the words "your hands" were written? I like it but I'm afraid that's a no |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 3136 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 2:51 pm: |      |
the ink...from a pen? from a stamp pad? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3379 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 3:26 pm: |      |
was a phone number written on her hand? a word? words? was there a picture? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4324 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2012 - 11:11 am: |      |
the ink...from a pen? from a stamp pad? from a pen |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4325 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2012 - 11:12 am: |      |
was a phone number written on her hand? a word? words? was there a picture? It was a little homework reminder but it could have been any of the above |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2072 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2012 - 1:42 pm: |      |
did she put her hands into something you prepared to decorate/ refurbish the walls? As a side note, i was "babysitting" two children, about 2-5 years old, yesterday, for about 2 hours. I hardly woke up this morning. -- Razvan, did you know that.... -- Razvan,did I tell you that... -- Razvan, what's the difference between this and that... -- Razvan, I will come -- Razvan, I will not come JESUS! : ) -- Do whatever you want, but try to use only water that is not so hot! ... And now I'm going to sleep/// -- (5 mins later) Razvan, if my brother yells, the cat is alert and the dog barks, this might mean that the water was too hot? -- No, it means that I was an idiot. -- What is an idiot, Razvan? (Question left unanswered, for the posterity) : ) No people were harmed. God willing...
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Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3383 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2012 - 2:53 pm: |      |
so she said that she couldn't wash her hands because she needed the reminder? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4327 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 10:50 am: |      |
did she put her hands into something you prepared to decorate/ refurbish the walls? No As a side note, i was "babysitting" two children, about 2-5 years old, yesterday, for about 2 hours. I hardly woke up this morning. -- Razvan, did you know that.... -- Razvan,did I tell you that... -- Razvan, what's the difference between this and that... -- Razvan, I will come -- Razvan, I will not come JESUS! : ) -- Do whatever you want, but try to use only water that is not so hot! ... And now I'm going to sleep/// -- (5 mins later) Razvan, if my brother yells, the cat is alert and the dog barks, this might mean that the water was too hot? -- No, it means that I was an idiot. -- What is an idiot, Razvan? (Question left unanswered, for the posterity) : ) No people were harmed. God willing... Ah the joy of children |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4328 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 10:52 am: |      |
so she said that she couldn't wash her hands because she needed the reminder? No Don't forget there was something else on her hands |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3389 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 12:07 pm: |      |
was the something else decorative? informative? valuable? of sentimental value? a pass back into a ride? a kiss from a special boy? a handshake with someone special? henna? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2073 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 12:15 pm: |      |
Something else: something that an adult would consider undesirable (mud? ... something like that would be OTRT? ) Or maybe a pet? Or a little bird? Anyway, something alive? Or maybe a chestnut for which she invented a story? Or, perhaps, she invented a story in which she said that she does not have two arms but four, or something like this...? As a side note, when I wanted to quit school (as a child) , I needed a good argument. God bless them, for about 50 times my mom and grandmother died or were ill -- hopefully very ill : )
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Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4329 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 1:47 pm: |      |
was the something else decorative? informative? valuable? of sentimental value? None of these. I wouldn't necessarily describe it as an object a pass back into a ride? a kiss from a special boy? a handshake with someone special? henna? Nice but no |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4330 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 1:53 pm: |      |
Something else: something that an adult would consider undesirable (mud? ... something like that would be OTRT? ) Undesireable on your hand yes but it does have it's place. Mud is not really on the right track Or maybe a pet? Or a little bird? Anyway, something alive? Or maybe a chestnut for which she invented a story? Nothing like this and not alive Or, perhaps, she invented a story in which she said that she does not have two arms but four, or something like this...? No As a side note, when I wanted to quit school (as a child) , I needed a good argument. God bless them, for about 50 times my mom and grandmother died or were ill -- hopefully very ill : ) Bad taste joke alert : Teacher :'Why weren't you in school yesterday?' Little Jimmy 'My Auntie got burned' Teacher 'Oh that's terrible was she badly burned?' Litte Jimmy 'Sure was , they don't f**k around in those crematoriums' After that a hint is called for methinks: What was on her hand is related to the fact that she had writing there also |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 3142 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 2:49 pm: |      |
Red marks/sore spots, from trying to erase what she had written? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2074 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 2:57 pm: |      |
On her hands: something Mom was working with?(Maybe, as my Mom did ,a chemical substance?) Or something that shouldn't have its place there -- a broken egg, a huge amount of wine, etc. , etc... Or maybe she pretended something was there.. while in fact there was nothing? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4331 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 3:38 pm: |      |
Red marks/sore spots, from trying to erase what she had written? No but you're hovering around the solution |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4332 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 3:44 pm: |      |
On her hands: something Mom was working with?(Maybe, as my Mom did ,a chemical substance?)Not something Mom was working on but it could be described as a chemical substance or at least in my opinion it could be. Maybe I'd say Yope to chemical substance as it depends on your definition. It may be better described as a type of solution Or something that shouldn't have its place there -- a broken egg, a huge amount of wine, etc. , etc... Well we've established that this was out of it's place but according to Aoife's strange logic there was a perfectly straight forward reason for it being there Or maybe she pretended something was there.. while in fact there was nothing? No there was something there and her Mom and I could both see it |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 3144 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 4:41 pm: |      |
White out? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3397 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 5:16 pm: |      |
is this solution red? black? blue? green? yellow? brown? whote? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 2629 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 5:47 pm: |      |
Did she use correction fluid to cover the ink? And called this "washing" her hands? |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper
Post Number: 1097 Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 1:18 am: |      |
*inspiration strikes* Whitewash? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17588 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 3:40 am: |      |
And if the white-out idea is correct, did she cover her entire hand(s) with white-out? Or just the written-on part? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4333 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 10:41 am: |      |
White out? Yes!!! but if it's ok with you i'll refer to it by it's European name, Tippex is this solution red? black? blue? green? yellow? brown? whote? It's white see above Did she use correction fluid to cover the ink? some of it And called this "washing" her hands? No *inspiration strikes* Whitewash? Fraid not And if the white-out idea is correct, did she cover her entire hand(s) with white-out? Or just the written-on part? As above it's a piece of the written part Ok we're almost there, here's the story so far Mom 'Did you wash your hands before dinner' Aoife 'Emmm yeesss' Mom 'Let me see them' Aoife *shows hands* Mom and Dad 'Aoife how many times have we told you not to write on your....wait a minute is that Tippex?' Aoife 'Yeah' Dad 'Why on earth have you got Tippex on your hand?' Aoife answered this with a classic 'well duh what a stupid question' voice which totally cracked us up. All you have to do is guess what she said. It's pretty obvious actually |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 2637 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 1:43 pm: |      |
"Because I had to correct an error"? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4334 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 10:02 pm: |      |
"Because I had to correct an error"? Well it was a bit more descriptive but you're almost there |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17589 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 10:21 pm: |      |
"Because I misspelled what I wrote"? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 2640 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 10:28 pm: |      |
"Because I misspelled [word]"? "Because [word] is spelled with [letter] instead of [letter]"? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4335 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 12:29 pm: |      |
"Because I misspelled what I wrote"? Pretty much Because I misspelled [word]"? "Because [word] is spelled with [letter] instead of [letter]"? We can now put this to bed I think *************Spoiler************** In truth I could have spoiled this yesterday. Ok so the conversation went like this Mom 'Did you wash your hands before dinner' Aoife 'Emmm yeesss' Mom 'Let me see them' Aoife *shows hands* Mom and Dad 'Aoife how many times have we told you not to write on your....wait a minute is that Tippex?' Aoife 'Yeah' Dad 'Why on earth have you got Tippex on your hand?' Aoife 'Because I was writing a note to myself and I made a mistake. Again I'd stress that she said that in a 'what a stupid question' kind of voice. I want to live in a world where tippexing a writing mistake on the back of your hand is considered normal. I hope she never changes. Thanks to all who played . Hope you enjoyed it. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17594 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2012 - 6:48 pm: |      |
Sounds perfectly normal to me =) Great puzzle Mr. 365 |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2076 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 08, 2012 - 9:31 am: |      |
It seems to me that she will be a very gifted lateral puzzler, some day : - ) Nice one, Peter! |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4340 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 2:06 pm: |      |
Thanks for the comments folks . Aoife is aware that she has a lead role in my latest puzzle and will probably want to read this so let me just say this about my amazingly talented, gorgeous, charming daughter. She would definately make a lateral puzzler as she's pretty lateral all the time. Until next time |