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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 2:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Call it karma, but Leo's crime wound up killing him. How?
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 11:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is that a Darwin award type of event?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 4:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is that a Darwin award type of event? I suppose it could be. It's FMOI though
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 10:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

His crime - murder? manslaughter? assault? rape? fraud? drug-related? robbery? theft? burglary?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2012 - 1:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

His crime - murder? manslaughter? assault? rape? fraud? drug-related? This robbery? theft? burglary?
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Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2012 - 1:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Leo die as a result of an accident? murdered? executed? Did he commit suicide?

Did Leo die within a day after his crime? A week? A month? A year? Several years?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2012 - 7:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Leo die as a result of an accident? This murdered? executed? Did he commit suicide?

Did Leo die within a day after his crime? Less than a day A week? A month? A year? Several years?
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
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Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2012 - 9:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Leo lie to a doctor in order to get a prescription for Marijuana? Only to find out he's horribly allergic to the stuff? Or overdosed?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 1:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Leo lie to a doctor in order to get a prescription for Marijuana? Only to find out he's horribly allergic to the stuff? Or overdosed? No to all
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 2:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was his crime drug dealing? Manufacturing? Taking drugs? Driving under the influence? Doing something else while impaired by drugs? Did he get caught for the crime? Relevant? Was he killed by the criminal act itself? By his efforts to evade capture?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 4:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was his crime drug dealing? Manufacturing? Taking drugs? Driving under the influence? No to all but this is relevant to the situation Doing something else while impaired by drugs?
Did he get caught for the crime? Technically No Relevant? Yes Was he killed by the criminal act itself? No By his efforts to evade capture? No
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he driving when he died? Or at any point during the events of the puzzle? Did he die in a car accident? Was he hit by a car?

Was the crime possession of drugs? Smuggling? Drugging someone else?
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 5:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I vaguely remember a story about a man dying spontaneously on a plane. The man had a huge balloon full of cocaine stuffed up a vital orifice. During the course of the flight, either due to change in pressure or sudden jolt... the balloon burst. And the man was fatally poisoned by the sheer quantity of the drug in his system.

Similar situation?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2012 - 9:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he driving when he died? No Or at any point during the events of the puzzle? No Did he die in a car accident? See next Was he hit by a car? Yes

Was the crime possession of drugs? Smuggling? Drugging someone else? This

I vaguely remember a story about a man dying spontaneously on a plane. The man had a huge balloon full of cocaine stuffed up a vital orifice. During the course of the flight, either due to change in pressure or sudden jolt... the balloon burst. And the man was fatally poisoned by the sheer quantity of the drug in his system.

Similar situation? No
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 12:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he give drugs to someone else? Was the other person aware of this? Was he trying to make them fall unconscious? So he could kidnap them? rob them? Rape them? Was it the victim of his crime that was driving the car that killed him? Were they trying to escape? Trying to leave? Was their driving impaired by the drug?
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 12:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he give drugs to someone else? Yes Was the other person aware of this? No Was he trying to make them fall unconscious? No, and No to the following 3 So he could kidnap them? rob them? Rape them? Was it the victim of his crime that was driving the car that killed him? Yes Were they trying to escape? Trying to leave? The victim? Yes, the latter Was their driving impaired by the drug? Yes
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 1:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the drug an illegal one? Cannabis? Cocaine? Heroin? LSD? Something hallucinogenic?

Did he give it to them in food? In a drink? By injection? By telling them it was something else? Relevant where he was at the time? At a party? At home? At the victim's home? Was he playing a prank? Attempting to make the victim do something they wouldn't otherwise have done?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 2:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the drug an illegal one? No Cannabis? Cocaine? Heroin? LSD? Something hallucinogenic?

Did he give it to them in food? In a drink? This By injection? By telling them it was something else? Relevant where he was at the time? Yes At a party? Yes At home? At the victim's home? Was he playing a prank? Sort of Attempting to make the victim do something they wouldn't otherwise have done? Yes
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it usually used as medicine? Is it alcohol? Caffeine? Some kind of painkiller? A laxative?

Was the victim driving away just because they wanted to leave the party? Did they not realise they were drugged? Did the criminal follow them out? Did he just happen to be in the road at the time?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 4:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it usually used as medicine? Is it alcohol? This Caffeine? Some kind of painkiller? A laxative?

Was the victim driving away just because they wanted to leave the party? Yes Did they not realise they were drugged? Yes Did the criminal follow them out? No Did he just happen to be in the road at the time? Yes
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 7:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Leo attempted to slip a roofie to a girl and offer her a lift home so he could have his way with her? She was still functional enough to turn him down and get away to her car? He left the party alone and the roofied girl crashed into him?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 7:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Leo attempted to slip a roofie Yes to a girl No and offer her a lift home so he could have his way with her? No She was still functional enough to turn him down and get away to her car? No He left the party alone Yes and the roofied Yes girl No crashed into him? Yes
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 3:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He attempted to roofie a guy? To have his way with him? To steal from him?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He attempted to roofie a guy? Yes To have his way with him? No To steal from him? No
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 4:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HINT: Leo and the victim (who needs a name) were acquaintances. Focus on the victim.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 6:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

can we call him Vic?

would he have been competition for Leo for some fair lady's hand, so Leo attempted to put him out of action?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

can we call him Vic? Sure.

would he have been competition for Leo for some fair lady's hand, so Leo attempted to put him out of action? No
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Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2012 - 10:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Leo actually want to roofie Vic? Or somebody elee?

Did Leo hate Vic? Wanted to ridiculise him?

Were they rivals in some manner? Criminals?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 1:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Leo actually want to roofie Vic? Yes Or somebody elee? No

Did Leo hate Vic? No, but... Wanted to ridiculise him? Yes/Yesish

Were they rivals in some manner? No Criminals? No
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Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 9:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was it Vic's stag night?
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Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 4:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Leo want Vic to be sedated so that he could drag him to a bed where another person was also somehow unconscious?

Was Vic sedated to the extent of unconscious?
Was another person involved?
If so, sedated?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was it Vic's stag night? No

Did Leo want Vic to be sedated so that he could drag him to a bed where another person was also somehow unconscious? No

Was Vic sedated to the extent of unconscious? No
Was another person involved? No If so, sedated?
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Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 6:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Leo want Vic to do something when Vic was sedated?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Leo want Vic to do something when Vic was sedated? No.

BLOOPER: Leo put something in Vic's drink, but it was NOT a roofie.
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Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 10:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It was alcohol, correct? Was the drink otherwise non-alcoholic? Was he trying to get Vic drunk? Trying to make him make a fool of himself? Do something stupid? Was Vic a designated driver that night? Is the reason for the party relevant? Was it Vic's birthday? Are Leo and Vic friends?
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Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 11:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It was alcohol, correct? Yes Was the drink otherwise non-alcoholic? Yes Was he trying to get Vic drunk? Yes Trying to make him make a fool of himself? Yes Do something stupid? Yes Was Vic a designated driver that night? No Is the reason for the party relevant? No Was it Vic's birthday? No Are Leo and Vic friends? No, acquaintances
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Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 11:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Vic not normally drink? Had he previously criticised Leo for drinking too much? Was he some kind of authority figure? Was Leo trying to ridicule him? To get revenge for something? To make people think that Vic had got drunk through his own choice?
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Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2012 - 3:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Vic not normally drink? Yes. Had he previously criticised Leo for drinking too much? Was he some kind of authority figure? Was Leo trying to ridicule him? To get revenge for something? To make people think that Vic had got drunk through his own choice?

****SPOILER****

Vic was a non-drinker. At a party, Leo thought it would be funny to spike his drink and get him drunk. However, Vic did not realize he was drunk; he just knew he was feeling strange, and he decided to leave, having driven himself to the party. Unfortunately, Leo was also leaving, and while walking alongside the road, he was struck and killed by Vic.

Nice work everyone, good solve Enjay, new puzzle shortly.

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