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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 2:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Even after the translation, I ended up remarking, "So much for my attention to detail." Why?

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translation - into English? From English to another language?
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translation - into English? From English to another language? Neither
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Language relevant at all? Some specialized lingo?
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Language relevant at all? I wouldn't call it a "language," so I'll say "Yes, svv of language" Some specialized lingo? Not lingo, no
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Wasn't it a language because: it did not consist of sounds? Was somehow impaired (such as baby speak)? Animals relevant? Sign language
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Wasn't it a language because: it did not consist of sounds? Yes but irrel Was somehow impaired (such as baby speak)? No Animals relevant? No Sign language No. I did not expect this puzzle to start with "language" questions (and I thought I'd covered every angle...)
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someone speaking English with an accent? an Irish accent? Irish idiom?
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someone speaking English with an accent? No an Irish accent? No Irish idiom? No
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Computer code/programming relevant? Slang? Dialect? Written words?

You said it didn't consist of sounds, so which other senses are relevant: sight? taste? smell? touch?

I'm curious as to what direction you thought the puzzle could go other than language, when the only apparent clue in the puzzle statement is the word "translation". Oh, unless-

Is the title relevant? A derry?
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Computer Yes code Not exactly /programming No relevant? Slang? Dialect? Written words? No to these

You said it didn't consist of sounds, so which other senses are relevant: sight? taste? smell? touch? Sight

I'm curious as to what direction you thought the puzzle could go other than language, when the only apparent clue in the puzzle statement is the word "translation". Oh, unless- I was thinking "attention to detail"

Is the title relevant? Somewhat A derry? No
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Spelling relevant? Homonyms? Derry/Dairy?
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Not exactly a code --> HTML? Lolspeak?

LTPF relevant? The weird formatting tags used here?
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Spelling relevant? Homonyms? Derry/Dairy? No to these. "Free Derry" = Free Derry

Not exactly a code --> HTML? Lolspeak? Neither

LTPF relevant? The weird formatting tags used here? No to both
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Is the Internet relevant? Facebook? Other social networking? Google? Another popular website?

If not the internet, is a specific category of computer program relevant? a specific program?
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is Free Derry some sort of motto? or a password?
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Was a technical term of some sort translated?

Are the "details" involved ones that one would notice visually? By hearing? Smell? Touch? Taste???
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Is the Internet relevant? Facebook? Other social networking? Google? Another popular website? No to all, except that I used the Internet to find the appropriate "translation"

If not the internet, is a specific category of computer program relevant? No a specific program? No

is Free Derry some sort of motto? or a password? It refers to the Free Derry Corner mural

Was a technical term of some sort translated? Not exactly a "term," no

Are the "details" involved ones that one would notice visually? Yes, No to rest By hearing? Smell? Touch? Taste???
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Are the visual details written words? Symbols? markings? Pictures? Objects? People?
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Are the visual details written words? Symbols? markings? Pictures? Objects? People? None of these
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So not a term, but something technical? Something one would know if one had a specific profession? Or a specific education? Or just an interest for a particular technology?
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So not a term, but something technical? Yes/Yesish Something one would know if one had a specific profession? Or a specific education? Or just an interest for a particular technology? No to all of these, really. It's much simpler.
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Are the visual details something on a computer? On a computer screen?
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Are the visual details something on a computer? On a computer screen? Yes to both
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an algorithm?
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an algorithm? No. Simpler
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A symbol? Logo? Picture? Special character? Name of a font? Anything like this at all, or completely OTWT?
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Screen saver or background relevant? Are any of the murals beside the 'welcome to free Derry' one relevant? Most of these depict scenes from Bloody Sunday.
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A symbol? Logo? Picture? Special character? Name of a font? No to these. Simpler Anything like this at all, or completely OTWT? Slightly OTWT, but not too far off

Screen saver or background relevant? No to both Are any of the murals beside the 'welcome to free Derry' one relevant? Most of these depict scenes from Bloody Sunday. A couple murals are indirectly relevant. It is irrel which ones they are.
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Is a video relevant?
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Is a video relevant? No
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Are the murals part of what was seen? Part of the details?
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Are the visual details numbers?
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Are the murals part of what was seen? They are but not the relevant part Part of the details? No

Are the visual details numbers? No
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I know you said the murals aren't the relevant part, but I'm confused as to how the murals could be seen on a computer screen without being part of a picture or a video. So I'm going to keep dwelling on them a bit more for clarity.

Did you see the murals on the computer screen? Or elsewhere?

Are the relevant details colors?

Ok, on to translation: did you mistranslate something? translate something correctly but still not understand what the final result was? waste time translating something that ended up being stupid/boring/annoying/low brow/etc.?
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I know you said the murals aren't the relevant part, but I'm confused as to how the murals could be seen on a computer screen without being part of a picture or a video. So I'm going to keep dwelling on them a bit more for clarity. To help: The murals were pictures, but the pictures were part of something else.

Did you see the murals on the computer screen? Yes Or elsewhere?

Are the relevant details colors? YES

Ok, on to translation: did you mistranslate something? translate something correctly but still not understand what the final result was? waste time translating something that ended up being stupid/boring/annoying/low brow/etc.? None of these. I correctly translated something
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are they the colours of flags?
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Did you convert RBG to CMYK? Color to grayscale?
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are they the colours of flags? Yes. Specifically, the Irish flag

Did you convert RBG to CMYK? Close enough. I converted Pantone to RGB. Color to grayscale?

You've figured out the translation, so how does that relate to the second half of the puzzle statement?
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Do the correct pantone colors for the Irish flag not translate into the accurate flag colors in RGB?
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Do the correct pantone colors for the Irish flag not translate into the accurate flag colors in RGB? They translate close enough to be considered accurate, and I did translate it correctly.
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Was your attention to detail looking up the correct Pantone colors for the Irish flag?
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Was your attention to detail looking up the correct Pantone colors for the Irish flag? And translating them into RGB, but there's a little bit more. Why did I want the colors in the first place?
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Were you wanting the flag for a sporting event? That the Irish team didn't end up making it to?
Or were you wanting the flag for an event that didn't end up happening?
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Were you wanting the flag for a sporting event? That the Irish team didn't end up making it to? Or were you wanting the flag for an event that didn't end up happening? FA and No to all
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Is your upcoming trip to my beloved country relevant?
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Is your upcoming trip to my beloved country relevant? Yes
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Did you want to print the Irish flag? on a shirt?
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Did you want to print the Irish flag? No, same FA on a shirt? No
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So you wanted something that was the same colors as the flag, rather than the flag itself?
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So you wanted something that was the same colors as the flag, rather than the flag itself? Yes
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Was it something you were going to print out?
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Was it something you were going to print out? Yes
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You're going to Ireland as part of a group, yes? Was this something you were going to share with your co-travellers? an Itinery? an agenda? something similar?

Are you planning on setting a puzzle? playing a game? some other group activity?

Was your intention humerous by any chance? were you going to play a joke? Was anyone going to look foolish?
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You're going to Ireland as part of a group, yes? Yes Was this something you were going to share with your co-travellers? Yes an Itinery? an agenda? something similar? It was a "travel guide"-style page made with PowerPoint

Are you planning on setting a puzzle? Other than this one? No =) playing a game? No some other group activity? No

Was your intention humerous by any chance? No were you going to play a joke? No Was anyone going to look foolish? No
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Are you going to be travelling around Ireland? Is there one place in particular that's relevant? will you be actually going to Derry? Is the Northern Ireland - Republic of Ireland divide relevant?
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Are you going to be travelling around Ireland? Yes Is there one place in particular that's relevant? No will you be actually going to Derry? Yes Is the Northern Ireland - Republic of Ireland divide relevant? No

Here's a RECAP that might sort out what's relevant to the puzzle:

Even after the translation, I ended up remarking, "So much for my attention to detail." Why?

This January, I am going to Ireland with a relevant group of people. In preparation for the trip, I had to make a "travel guide"-style page on a particular area, person, etc. (Mine was on the political murals found mostly in the Belfast area, but that is not relevant to the puzzle.) I made part of the text the colors of the Irish flag, and looked up the exact colors, translating them into RGB so I could properly change the text color.

Yet even after doing this, I ended up remarking, "So much for my attention to detail." Why?

HINT: Who am I going with?
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From memory is it the people who you were on your retreat with? Would they not understand your intentions? Are the actual flag colours relevant? Green white & Orange (I must share with you a little rant on that subject sometime)?
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were they color blind? blind? were they cheap, and so reproduced the guide in black and white to save money? Did they view them on a kindle or other e-ink device instead of printing them out?
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From memory is it the people who you were on your retreat with? The one I went on two summers ago? No Would they not understand your intentions? No Are the actual flag colours relevant? Their relevance has been established Green white & Orange (I must share with you a little rant on that subject sometime)? Please do.

were they color blind? No blind? No were they cheap, and so reproduced the guide in black and white to save money? No, and FA: I printed it out Did they view them on a kindle or other e-ink device instead of printing them out? No
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are they loyalists?
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Are they American?
Fellow students? friends? family? people from church?
Their gender relevant? Age? Relevant how many of them there are?
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are they loyalists? I have no idea, and Irrel

Are they American? Yes...
Fellow students? YES... friends? Some are, but it's the "students" part that's relevant family? people from church? No to these
Their gender relevant? No Age? No Relevant how many of them there are? A little bit. There are 30.
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Mini BLOOPER: Not all are American. But that's not really relevant, since you've established that they are fellow students.
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Is this some kind of class trip? Is the class relevant?
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Is this some kind of class trip? Close enough. It is a 3-week study abroad program Is the class relevant? Yes
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Did they not know the colors of the Irish flag? Did they have other mental associations to those same colors, which distracted them from the meaning you intended? Were they used to seeing flyers with text in random colors, so they didn't think anything of the colored text?
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Did they not know the colors of the Irish flag? Did they have other mental associations to those same colors, which distracted them from the meaning you intended? Were they used to seeing flyers with text in random colors, so they didn't think anything of the colored text? No to all
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You said that you were going to print text in the colors of the Irish flag? In all three colors? is there one color particularly relevant? Did it turn out that one of the colors is bad to read against the background? was your printer not able to print the color? did your printer render the color into some other color?
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You said that you were going to print text in the colors of the Irish flag? Yes In all three colors? Yes
is there one color particularly relevant? Did it turn out that one of the colors is bad to read against the background? was your printer not able to print the color? did your printer render the color into some other color? No to all, OTWT
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You said the class was relevant. Do you mean that we should try to find out the subject of the class? Or just that it was relevant that you were in a class going to Ireland?
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You said the class was relevant. Yes Do you mean that we should try to find out the subject of the class? Or just that it was relevant that you were in a class going to Ireland? I think with these two questions, I can just tell you: It's a preparatory course for the actual studying abroad.
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Did you include the flag colors to educate your peers what they were? But then someone else beat you to it?
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Did you include the flag colors to educate your peers what they were? But then someone else beat you to it? No to both, OTWT

You're done with the "colors" part of the puzzle. Why did I say "So much for my attention to detail"?
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did you not notice a misprint? or a blooper?
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did you not notice a misprint? No or a blooper? Yes. I did not notice until after it had been printed (I could not reprint it for reasons irrelevant to the puzzle)
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So you paid attention to the detail of the color but not to part of the content?
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sorry, I hit post before I was ready...

Was the blooper specific to Ireland? Was it a date? A location? a spelling error? A typo? A wrong word?
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So you paid attention to the detail of the color Yes but not to part of the content? YOPE

Was the blooper specific to Ireland? No -- good q Was it a date? A location? a spelling error? A typo? A wrong word? No to these
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was it a number?
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Did you get the order of the colours wrong?
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was it a number? No

Did you get the order of the colours wrong? No
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Was the blooper in the text? In an image?
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Was the blooper in the text? In an image? Technically, No to both!
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Was the blooper in the layout?
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Was the blooper in the layout? No

HINT: "Was the blooper in the text?" -NoISH
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Was it a technical error (in the sense - one produced by a machine of sorts), or a human error (like introducing some details that could offend some people, without noticing this in the first place) ?
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Was it a technical error (in the sense - one produced by a machine of sorts), or a human error (like introducing some details that could offend some people, without noticing this in the first place) ? Human, but not like what you described
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Did you spell everything the American way instead of the Irish way? Or vice versa?
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Did you spell everything the American way instead of the Irish way? Or vice versa? No, OTWT
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Did you print it on colored paper? Such that some of the colored text didn't show up?
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Did you print it on colored paper? Such that some of the colored text didn't show up? No, still OTWT
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Did you want to have each page use the three colors in the same order as the appear on the flag, but you got the order wrong?
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Sorry for the last question - I think that one's been settled
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Did you want to have each page use the three colors in the same order as the appear on the flag, but you got the order wrong? No; there was only one page, and I got the color order right
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Does the detail involve an anachronism?

Were the colors somehow innapropriate?
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Is the text set out as three columns? relevant?
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Does the detail involve an anachronism? No

Were the colors somehow inappropriate? No

Is the text set out as three columns? No relevant? No
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Did the blooper have to do with the layout? The position of words? The meaning of words? Symbolism?

Was the blooper evident on the computer screen? Or only after the document was printed?
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Did the blooper have to do with the layout? The position of words? No to all, with an -ish for this one The meaning of words? Symbolism?

Was the blooper evident on the computer screen? Or only after the document was printed? Both; I just didn't notice it until after it had printed

Since this has reached 100 posts, I will drop a HINT: Remember that this was for my study abroad prep class.
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Was some of the content inaccurate?

Did you incorrectly include some murals?

Did you mean to design the page according as if it were published in Ireland, but you missed a cultural detail?

Did you omit some important information?
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Was some of the content inaccurate? No

Did you incorrectly include some murals? No

Did you mean to design the page according as if it were published in Ireland, but you missed a cultural detail? No

Did you omit some important information? svv of "information"
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Did you forget to put your name on the page? So you couldn't get credit for the assignment?
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Did you forget to put your name on the page? YES So you couldn't get credit for the assignment? But no.

Finally, I can say
****SPOILER****

For my study abroad prep class (I'm going to Ireland for three weeks in January), each student had to create a "travel guide"-style page for a different Irish landmark or person. I did mine on the political murals in Belfast and Derry, and wanted to put a lot of detail into it. I went into such detail that I looked up the official colors of the Irish flag and translated them from Pantone to RGB so I could use the exact colors on the page (which was made in PowerPoint). However, I neglected to include the rather important detail of putting my name on the page. So much for my attention to detail.

As it turns out, the professor didn't mind that I forgot to put my name on, as he had a list of all the students and their topics. So it all worked out.

Nice work everyone for the hard work, especially Noel for the final, elusive piece. New puzzle soon, and I won't forget to put my name in the subject line.
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Whew, I bet you didn't think the forgotten name would be the hard part of this puzzle!
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Nice puzzle! (:

My attention to detail: I recently misspelled a teacher's name on a handout that I made for class. But either he didn't even notice (so much for his attention to detail) or he was nice enough not to mention it.
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Noel: You got that right =)

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