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Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 10:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In a remote city, I encountered a situation that can be described as "bad" for a number of reasons. However, in the end, I was lucky

No animals, humans or aliens have been hurt in the process :- )
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Did the situation concern also other people?
Could you have encountered the similar situation in the rural area?
Did you know from the beginning that you were lucky?
Is the reason of your presence in the remote city relevant?
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Did the situation concern also other people? Yope to Yessish
Could you have encountered the similar situation in the rural area? Yes
Did you know from the beginning that you were lucky? No, on the contrary...
Is the reason of your presence in the remote city relevant? No
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Is it relevant how did you get to the remote city?
Were you in real danger in this situation?
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Is it relevant how did you get to the remote city? No
Were you in real danger in this situation? DOYD of "real danger". I might have been, but not in the sense that I might get killed
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"Remote," I assume, means remote from where you live? would I also consider it remote? would, say, Peter? somewhere like Timbuktu? somewhere exotic, where few Americans/Europeans have been?

Did you speak the language there?
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"Remote," I assume, means remote from where you live? Yes would I also consider it remote? Yes, I presume would, say, Peter? Yes, I think somewhere like Timbuktu? Not this remote somewhere exotic, where few Americans/Europeans have been? No

Did you speak the language there? Yes.

To save you the trouble, forget the "remote" part, it was just to set the actual story in the place where it happened. It was in Rome.
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Is theft involved?
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Lucky because:
-you gained something good?
-you lost something not so good?
-something not so good changed for the better?
-you avoided greater danger or misfortune?
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Is theft involved?

Lucky because:
-you gained something good?
-you lost something not so good?
-something not so good changed for the better?
-you avoided greater danger or misfortune? This. No to the rest
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So it's a case of "the good news is that the bad news wasn't as bad as it might have been," yes?

Did you lose something, but regained it? or at least part of it?
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So it's a case of "the good news is that the bad news wasn't as bad as it might have been," yes? In a sense, yes

Did you lose something, but regained it? Yesish, I lost it temporarily or at least part of it? No, I regained it in its integrity
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What you lost, was it an actual, material 'something?' If so, was it about the size of your wallet? about the size of a laptop? a desktop? a car? bigger than that? very, very small (about the size of a needle or smaller)?

Or was it something non-concrete?
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Was what you lost passport? map?
Travelling relevant?
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What you lost, was it an actual, material 'something?' Yes If so, was it about the size of your wallet? about the size of a laptop? It was a laptop a desktop? a car? bigger than that? very, very small (about the size of a needle or smaller)?

Or was it something non-concrete?

Was what you lost passport? map?
Travelling relevant? Yope, might mislead

The rest are a no
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Did you lose it willingly? Was it taken from you legally?
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Did you lose it willingly? Was it taken from you legally? No to both, and a FA. This and the "bad" thing is worth exploring

HINT: Think simpler. No "public forces" were involved
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Did you really lose your laptop? Were you wrongly convinced about having lost your laptop?
Did anyone else take your laptop in his/her possession?
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Losing your laptop was NOT a bad thing?!??
Did you just leave it behind somewhere?
Or locked it up somewhere (say in a car) and couldn't get to it?
(That happened to my son, and I may make a puzzle of it someday.)
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You dropped it into the water?

It was not taken by someone else right?
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Did you really lose your laptop? Were you wrongly convinced about having lost your laptop?
Did anyone else take your laptop in his/her possession?

See below

Losing your laptop was NOT a bad thing?!?? It was, however it could have been worse
Did you just leave it behind somewhere? YES!
Or locked it up somewhere (say in a car) and couldn't get to it?
(That happened to my son, and I may make a puzzle of it someday.) That would be interesting : - )

You dropped it into the water? No, see above

It was not taken by someone else right? No

Remaining: what was the situation, and how "bad" turned into "good"
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If not in a car, taxi, or public transportation, did you leave it in your hotel room? a bathroom? an eating place of some kind? other place? Maybe even a park bench?
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If not in a car, taxi, or public transportation, did you leave it in your hotel room? a bathroom? an eating place of some kind? other place? This one. I left it in a company. But how this relates to the puzzle statement? Maybe even a park bench?
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Did something romantic happen?
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Did something romantic happen? No, nothing of this kind
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Was it returned to you by your own actions? by someone else's actions? (a Good Samaritan?) just by happenstance?
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were you lucky because you got it back? or because being without it caused you some good fortune?

or going to look for it? or doing without it? finding an alternative?
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Was it returned to you by your own actions? Yes by someone else's actions? (a Good Samaritan?) just by happenstance? No the rest

were you lucky because you got it back? Yes or because being without it caused you some good fortune? No

or going to look for it? or doing without it? finding an alternative?
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Did anything happen to your computer while it was not in your possession, other than just being lost? e.g. it got wet? dirty? somebody used it?
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Did anything happen to your computer while it was not in your possession, other than just being lost? e.g. it got wet? dirty? somebody used it? No to all.
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Did something happen to you during the time you had left the laptop behind which would have affected your computer if you had had it? For instance robbery? Bag snatching? Fall accident which might have damaged your computer?

Fire in your hotel room or elsewhere where you might have put your laptop? Lost some items in river Tevere? Your paraphernalia run over by a car?

Something happened to your travel bags when flying from Rome to someplace else? Damage to your luggage? Missing luggage? Possible theft by ground handling personnel at the airport service?

Did you bring your computer bag with you when you forgot the laptop, or did you leave that one behind too? Any importance of a computer bag?
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Did something happen to you during the time you had left the laptop behind which would have affected your computer if you had had it? For instance robbery? Bag snatching? Fall accident which might have damaged your computer? Very OTRT for robbery, but might mislead. Something happened, however -- between "losing" the laptop and recovering it

Fire in your hotel room or elsewhere where you might have put your laptop? Lost some items in river Tevere? Your paraphernalia run over by a car? Nothing of the kind, as stated above I forgot it in a company

Something happened to your travel bags when flying from Rome to someplace else? Damage to your luggage? Missing luggage? Possible theft by ground handling personnel at the airport service? No, it happened in the city.

HINT: I was due to leave Rome the next morning


Did you bring your computer bag with you when you forgot the laptop, or did you leave that one behind too? I left it, in its bag, on a chair Any importance of a computer bag? No
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Did you like Rome? And did it take an extra day to recover the laptop? And so you were able to stay another day?
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Did you like Rome? Yes, but irrel.And did it take an extra day to recover the laptop? No! And so you were able to stay another day? I wasn't able, good q!

Beware FA - I didn't want to stay more and anyway it was rather impossible. My feelings for the city are all irrel.

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Relevant how you left Rome? By plane?
Were you going home? Someplace else?
Did you take the intended means of transportation at the intended time?
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Did you need data from your laptop to travel home?
If you hadn't left your laptop behind, would it have been destroyed? Taken from you by someone? Would data have been lost?
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Relevant how you left Rome? A little bit By plane? Yes

Were you going home? Someplace else? Irrel., assume home
Did you take the intended means of transportation at the intended time? Yes

Did you need data from your laptop to travel home? Not to travel, but I needed it at the destination
If you hadn't left your laptop behind, would it have been destroyed? No Taken from you by someone? No Would data have been lost? No, just much harder to retrieve, and not in time
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Did you leave behind something else important in your laptop bag (besides the laptop)?
Was it possible for you to leave Rome without the laptop?
Were other people involved in that something that happened between losing and recovering the laptop?
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Was it your personal laptop? Professional laptop? Relevant?
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Did you leave behind something else important in your laptop bag (besides the laptop)? No
Was it possible for you to leave Rome without the laptop? Technically, yes, but it would have been bad upon arriving at home
Were other people involved in that something that happened between losing and recovering the laptop? YES!

Was it your personal laptop? Professional laptop? Relevant? Assume professional. Somewhat relevant
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Is there one more relevant person? two people? less than 5? less than 10? more than that? H/A/M? F? mixed? Did you know them? Are they co-workers?

Did you travel to/from Rome alone?
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Is there one more relevant person? This one, H/A/M. No to the rest two people? less than 5? less than 10? more than that? H/A/M? F? mixed? Did you know them? Are they co-workers?

Did you travel to/from Rome alone? No, but irrel
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A little RECAP

"In a remote city, I encountered a situation that can be described as "bad" for a number of reasons. However, in the end, I was lucky"

The situation happened while visiting Rome. While there, I forgot my laptop in a company, and I was due to leave first thing next morning. I also needed the laptop as soon as arriving home, for a professional reason, the nature of which is irrelevant.

If something 'bad' (and funny, in the end) wouldn't have happened, I probably wouldn't have be able to recover it in due time, and I would have had to go without it. It was not in danger of being lost or damaged, but by the time I would have received it, it would have been too late for the task I was supposed to do upon arriving

Another person (H/A/M) was involved between 'losing' my laptop and retrieving it.
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Wild shot in the dark:
Did something bad happen to the company's affairs and caused someone to urgently come to the company's building, and that person accidentaly found your laptop and brought it back to you?

Were you aware that you left your laptop behind?
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Did something bad happen to the company's affairs and caused someone to urgently come to the company's building, and that person accidentaly found your laptop and brought it back to you? No, but good thinking

Were you aware that you left your laptop behind? Initially, no, good q!
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Did the bad thing make you aware that you left your laptop behind? And therefore you could retrieve it on time?
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Did the bad thing make you aware that you left your laptop behind? And therefore you could retrieve it on time? Yes to both
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Were you mugged? Did you lose something else? Did you have a laptop bag? If so, were you carrying the empty bag? Or did you leave both the bag and laptop behind? If so, did you have anything else important in the bag?
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Were you mugged? No, but somehow OTRT Did you lose something else? Did you have a laptop bag? If so, were you carrying the empty bag? Or did you leave both the bag and laptop behind? This one If so, did you have anything else important in the bag?

All unanswered are a no
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Did you need your laptop to manage with what had happened? Did you need to go back to the company? Did you need to contact someone?
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Did you need your laptop to manage with what had happened? Did you need to go back to the company? Did you need to contact someone? No to all. I needed it at home, not in Rome
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was the car you were using get stolen? and the laptop would have been in it?
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was the car you were using get stolen? and the laptop would have been in it? No to both, no cars involved
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was the place you were staying burgled?
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Was someone else robbed and you saw it?
In the "bad" situation, were you asked to give money? To show documents? Were you taken for someone else? Did someone not recognize you? Did it involve authorities? Did it happen indoors? Did it happen while driving a car?
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was there a flood? an earthquake?
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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was the place you were staying burgled? No

Was someone else robbed and you saw it? No
In the "bad" situation, were you asked to give money? This one! To show documents? No Were you taken for someone else? No Did someone not recognize you? No Did it involve authorities? No Did it happen indoors? NoDid it happen while driving a car? No, I was walking

was there a flood? an earthquake? No to both
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Were you threatened? Approached by a beggar? Did you want to give money? Were you able to give money? Was the situation bad for: you? the person asking for money? Both? Someone else? Was more than one person asking for money? Were you asked to give money in exchange for something? Or to be nice?
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Is asker's reaction to your response relevant?
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Were you threatened? Only verbally Approached by a beggar? Yes, it was a drunkard Did you want to give money? No Were you able to give money? Yes Was the situation bad for: you? It could have been,unpleasant anyway the person asking for money? No Both? Someone else? My wife was with me, so it might have been bad for her also. Irr. anyway Was more than one person asking for money? No Were you asked to give money in exchange for something? No Or to be nice? I don't understand this, please rephrase

Is asker's reaction to your response relevant? No, he went away grumbling. Something about him is however relevant to the puzzle, in a funny way
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Did something in the beggar's appearance remind you about your laptop? In his behaviour? In what he said asking you for money?
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Did something in the beggar's appearance remind you about your laptop? Yesish, very much OTRT. Finding out what caught my attention is the last piece of this puzzle In his behaviour? In what he said asking you for money?
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Did the beggar carry a laptop bag? Did he have a shirt with a text "mind your belongings"? Did he wear something with a logo of any hardware of software company?
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Random shot in the dark: Was the beggar eating/carrying an apple? And you have an Apple laptop?
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Did the beggar carry a laptop bag? No, but...!!Did he have a shirt with a text "mind your belongings"? Did he wear something with a logo of any hardware of software company?
Random shot in the dark: Was the beggar eating/carrying an apple? And you have an Apple laptop?

No to the rest, but in the right forest. Think simpler. No symbols were involved.
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Did he carry a laptop?
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Or a cellphone? Something else worth a lot of money? Something that reminded you of the laptop? Something that can be connected to a laptop? Something useful to the beggar?
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Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 7:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he carry a laptop? Indeed he did!

******* SPOILER *******

While going home after a meeting in a small company, I left my laptop there. On my way to the bus station, together with my wife, I was (verbally) assaulted by a drunkard in the street, who demanded money "to buy another beer". I managed to get on, but upon arriving at the bus station, I suddenly realized something.

My wife asked me what it is all about, and I couldn't nail it.. But something in this guy reminded me of something. And then I realized. He was carrying a laptop! I instructed my wife to stay there, I ran back to the company (almost pushing to the ground the "bad guy" in my feat), and proudly came back with my laptop.

I thanked the guy (who by the time didn't know what to believe) and I bought him a beer -- so all ended well. If he didn't have a laptop with him, I would have probably realised my 'loss' the next morning, when it would have been way too late.

Thanks to all who participated and to Doriana for the final solve.

And yes, I enjoyed a beer myself, after the event. : - )

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