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Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 2:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oscar had overlooked one cheap item for his Christmas celebration which turned out to cost him dearly. How come?
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Was the item intended to be part of his tree? Did the item involve other people? Wrapping paper?

"Cost him dearly": monetarily? Did he die? Did someone else?
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Was it mistletoe? Did it affect his significant other?
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Did it affect his relationship with his significant other? Was it mistletoe?
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Did it affect his relationship with his significant other? Was it mistletoe?
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Balin:

Was the item intended to be part of his tree? No Did the item involve other people? Possibly, but irrel Wrapping paper? No

"Cost him dearly": monetarily? Yes Did he die? No Did someone else? No

Deholmes:

Did it affect his relationship with his significant other? Which significant other? Maybe he had one, but irrel Was it mistletoe? No
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Was the item part of the decoration? the meal? the presents?

Did something break because he hadn't bought the item?
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Is it an item that would be bought specifically for a party? Specifically for a Christmas party? Something you might just have around the house?

Is the item specifically designed to prevent this type of cost?

Could he have possibly gotten through the party without incurring the cost? Would he have realized immediately that it had cost him? After the party?
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Doriana:

Was the item part of the decoration? No the meal? Yes the presents? No Did something break because he hadn't bought the item? FA

Gourami:

Is it an item that would be bought specifically for a party? Yesish Specifically for a Christmas party? Yesish Something you might just have around the house? You might, but you probably haven┤t. My guess is that it is more probable that I have it around (though not always) than you

Is the item specifically designed to prevent this type of cost? No

Could he have possibly gotten through the party without incurring the cost? Yes Would he have realized immediately that it had cost him? Please rephrase After the party? No
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is it an ingredient? a dish?

is it something people generally eat at Christmas?

did he go out and buy some?
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is it an ingredient? Yes a dish? A part of a dish

is it something people generally eat at Christmas? Probably not where you live, but not uncommon here

did he go out and buy some? Yes
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Is the relevant ingredient a vegetable? fruit? grain product? dairy product? meat? fish? a spice? a condiment?

Is it fresh? processed? relevant?
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Is the relevant ingredient a vegetable? This fruit? grain product? dairy product? meat? fish? a spice? a condiment?

Is it fresh? processed? relevant? Fresh, but it is not relevant
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By overlooked, do you mean that he did not buy the item? Didn't cook it? Didn't put it out on the table? Failed to do something else with it?

Did it cost him because he then had to pay for something else? Had to pay a fine? Had to buy something? Physically lost some money? Got robbed? Gave money to someone else? Failed to gain money he would otherwise have got?
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Did the cost refer to his relationship with another person? Was the food involved not up to standard without it?
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Enjay:

By overlooked, do you mean that he did not buy the item? He bought it all right Didn't cook it? I doubt it Didn't put it out on the table? Hence I doubt this as well Failed to do something else with it? He had forgotten to buy it

Did it cost him because he then had to pay for something else? Yope Had to pay a fine? No, but OTRT Had to buy something? He had to buy the item he had overlooked, but that was no big expense. On the contrary, it is usually a very cheap item Physically lost some money? Nope Got robbed? No Gave money to someone else? No Failed to gain money he would otherwise have got? No

Deholmes:

Did the cost refer to his relationship with another person? Noish. But worth exploring Was the food involved not up to standard without it? True in a sense, but not so that the lack of the ingredient would have cost him anything else than a critical guest┤s disrespect
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Was the critical guest a political leader? Did he have a job cooking for an important person(s) Did this cost him his job?
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Was the critical guest a political leader? My statement about a critical guest was only meant to pinpoint that a lack of that particular ingredient didn't cost anything in terms of money, only a lesser esteem from a purist table mate. The guest, if there was any, is not relevant for this puzzle. Did he have a job cooking for an important person(s)? ..so 'no' Did this cost him his job? ..and 'no'
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Is this something that would embellish a ham? turkey? salad? embellish anytthing? something traditioonal to Norway?
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Is this something that would embellish a ham? turkey? salad? embellish anything? Well, not really something traditional to Norway?

I┤d say that the ingredient is considered as an integral part of a traditional Norwegian dish, though I would hardly speak of embellishment. Now, what kind of dish could that be? I don┤t expect you to be familiar with traditional Norwegian cuisine, but reasoning could help you well along here. And yes, it is important to find out to solve the puzzle.
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Is fish involved at any stage?
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Is fish involved at any stage? No
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Does it have anything to do with beverage?
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So he forgot to buy the item, but he did buy it? Is it relevant exactly when he bought it? Did he buy it later than he should have? At the last minute? After the meal? During the meal? Did he have to make a special trip out to the shops just to buy that item?
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Deholmes:

Does it have anything to do with beverage? No

Enjay:

So he forgot to buy the item, but he did buy it? Correct Is it relevant exactly when he bought it? Yesish. Exactly is maybe a bit exaggerated, though Did he buy it later than he should have? Yes, because he had forgotten it At the last minute? Sort of, but might be misleading After the meal? No During the meal? No Did he have to make a special trip out to the shops just to buy that item? Yes. And what happened because of that?
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I think I┤ll make a recap:

Oscar was preparing a traditional Norwegian Christmas dish when he suddenly discovered that he had forgotten to buy a vegetable ingredient which is considered imperative to this particular dish. The vegetable is a quite cheap ingredient, but because he had to do some last minute shopping for it, something happened that cost him dearly. What happened?
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Did something happen to him during the trip to the shops? Did he miss something at home because he was at the shops? Relevant what kind of shop he had to go to? How far away it was? How long he was gone for? Did he go to the shop alone? Relevant how he travelled there? Did he have an accident? Did he meet someone at the shop?
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Did something burn while you were gone? something you were cooking? a part of the kitchen?
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sauerkraut? cabbage? swede?
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Enjay:

Did something happen to him during the trip to the shops? Noish. OTWT Did he miss something at home because he was at the shops? Yesish, but also a bit OTWT Relevant what kind of shop he had to go to? He went to a grocery store, but not relevant really How far away it was? Probably How long he was gone for? Definitely Did he go to the shop alone? He lived alone and went to the shop alone Relevant how he travelled there? No Did he have an accident? No Did he meet someone at the shop? Maybe. But not vital to the puzzle solution

Deholmes:

Did something burn while you were gone? No, but OTRT something you were cooking? No a part of the kitchen? Please rephrase

Shez:

sauerkraut? cabbage? swede? This is the missing ingredient, yes (if it is what I think often is named 'rutabaga' in American English)

Good questions here, and moving closer to the solution
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Was there a fire? Did the building burn? Did the stove catch fire?
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Was there a fire? Did the building burn? Did the stove catch fire?
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Deholmes:

Was there a fire? Did the building burn? Did the stove catch fire? No to all
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Was he gone for less than 30 min? less than an hour? less than two hours? longer than that?

Did someone come to his house while he was gone?
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Deholmes:

Was he gone for less than 30 min? less than an hour? less than two hours? longer than that? This story from reality doesn't tell how long he was away, but it was too long. My guess is more than an hour at least

Did someone come to his house while he was gone? No
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Sorry Doriana, it was obviously YOUR question that I answered in the previous post...
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Hint: It might be helpful if you manage to find out something about the place where Oscar lived
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Does he live in an urban area? rural?

Does he live far away from the next shop? Does he have any neighbours?

Does he live on an island? in the mountains? In a place that is otherwise hard to access? Can you go there by car?
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Does he live in an urban area? rural? urban

Does he live far away from the next shop? irrelevant Does he have any neighbours? Yes

Does he live on an island? irrelevant in the mountains? irrelevant In a place that is otherwise hard to access? No, and hardly relevant Can you go there by car? I am quite sure of that, but not very relevant
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Does he live in a flat? a house? Relevant what floor he lives on?

Is there anything relevant about his flat/house? about the street/neighbourhood it is in? about the city?
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Does he live in a flat? Yes a house? So no Relevant what floor he lives on? YES. Good question

Is there anything relevant about his flat/house? Noish about the street/neighbourhood it is in? No about the city? No
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Does he live in the basement? ground floor? 1st? 2nd? 3rd? 4th? (and so on)?

Is it the highest floor in his building?
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Does he live in the basement? No ground floor? No 1st? Might have, but.. 2nd? 3rd? ..he actually lived on 3rd floor. 1st & 2nd would also have been options 4th? (and so on)?

Is it the highest floor in his building? Yes
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was there a fire on the floor below his?

or did his roof leak?
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was there a fire on the floor below his? No

or did his roof leak? No
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Was he expecting any guests for dinner? Were they already there when he made the trip to the grocery store?

Does something happen to his roof while he is away? To another part of his flat?
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Would he have used an elevator?
Is an elevator involved?
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Should we spend time on the cheap thrills?
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Doriana:

Was he expecting any guests for dinner? Probably, but unimportant Were they already there when he made the trip to the grocery store? So no

Does something happen to his roof while he is away? No To another part of his flat? Yes

Deholmes:

Would he have used an elevator? Probably since he lived on 3rd floor, but not relevant
Is an elevator involved? No
Should we spend time on the cheap thrills? No, it's just a play with words in the title (and the title of the most famous album from Big Brother and the Holding Company starring vocalist Janis Joplin)
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Was the room where something happened the living room? bedroom? bathroom?
was water involved?
Would the problem happen even if he were home? but not as serious? Did a guest cause the problem?
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Was the room where something happened the living room? No bedroom? No bathroom? No
was water involved? Yes

Would the problem happen even if he were home? No to noish but not as serious? Definitely not as serious IF it had happened even if he were home Did a guest cause the problem? No
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Did he forget to turn off a faucet? And his flat was flooded?
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Did he forget to turn off a faucet? Yope And his flat was flooded? Yes, to some extent and...?
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Were the other flats in his building flooded too? Was something else flooded?
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Were the other flats in his building flooded too? Yes - some of them Was something else flooded? No
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Did something leak? His dishwasher? Washing machine?
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Did something leak? His dishwasher? Washing machine? No to all
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Did this happen in the kitchen?
Was there sinister work involved?
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Did something: break? Drip? Tip over? Burst? Boil over? Freezing relevant? Cooking? Fire? Is a sprinkler system involved? Other firefighting equipment? Was there a fire? Is fire relevant at all?
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Deholmes:

Did this happen in the kitchen? Yes
Was there sinister work involved? Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant. Please rephrase

Galfisk:

Did something: break? No Drip? Yope Tip over? No Burst? No Boil over? No Freezing relevant? No Cooking? Noish Fire? No Is a sprinkler system involved? No Other firefighting equipment? No Was there a fire? No Is fire relevant at all? No
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Did something melt? Is the freezer involved? Fridge? Sink? Stove? Oven? Faucet? Other electrical device? Something connected to the water pipes? Did the water come from the water pipes? Is there anything wrong with the equipment involved? Or did he operate it incorrectly? Did he neglect to do something before he left? Was he in the middle of preparing the food when he left? Relevant?
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Did something melt? No Is the freezer involved? No Fridge? No Sink? Yes Stove? No Oven? No Faucet? Yope Other electrical device? No Something connected to the water pipes? No Did the water come from the water pipes? Yes Is there anything wrong with the equipment involved? No Or did he operate it incorrectly? Yesish Did he neglect to do something before he left? Yes Was he in the middle of preparing the food when he left? Yes Relevant? Yes
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Did he neglect to: turn off the water? Empty the sink? Was he rinsing something? Cooling something under running water? Was the sink: plugged intentionally? Clogged accidentally? Did it overflow? If he had the water running, was it: hot? Cold? Lukewarm? Relevant?
My sink has overflow protection: holes near the top edge leading to the drain. Did this sink have anything like that? Relevant? Amount of water that overflowed: less than a deciliter? Less than a liter? Less than 10? 100? Relevant?
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Did this happen in the kitchen? Yes
Was there sinister work involved? Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant. Please rephrase

Sinister: Evil intent, a word my great, great grandfather, Sherlock, used a lot. Did someone other than him do something to cause the water problem?
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Galfisk:

Did he neglect to: turn off the water? Yesish Empty the sink? No Was he rinsing something? YES. What? Cooling something under running water? No Was the sink: plugged intentionally? No Clogged accidentally? NoDid it overflow? Yes If he had the water running, was it: hot? Cold? This Lukewarm? Relevant? Actually, yes, to some extent
My sink has overflow protection: holes near the top edge leading to the drain. Did this sink have anything like that? Yes, but.. Relevant? Noish Amount of water that overflowed: less than a deciliter? Less than a liter? Less than 10? 100? Obviously a large body of water. No exact figures, though Relevant? Only that it was a lot of water

Deholmes:

Did someone other than him do something to cause the water problem? No

We are approaching the solution now. But it still remains to find out WHY Oscar seriously flooded his sink
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was he defrosting something? a turkey? something a bit more Norwegian?

rinsing clothes?

did the water freeze and cause the overflow?
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Was he rinsing a cooking utensil? If so, a pan? a pot? an ice cube tray?
Was the thing he was rinsing bigger than the sink? Was it placed in the sink?
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Did the item he was rinsing block the overflow holes?
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Shez:

was he defrosting something? No a turkey? No something a bit more Norwegian? Yes

rinsing clothes? No

did the water freeze and cause the overflow? No

Doriana:

Was he rinsing a cooking utensil? No If so, a pan? a pot? an ice cube tray?
Was the thing he was rinsing bigger than the sink? No Was it placed in the sink? Yes

Noel:

Did the item he was rinsing block the overflow holes? No

I'll answer to some of these questions and make a recap since it is not vital for the full solution as such:

Oscar was rinsing something in his kitchen sink with cold water, but he used too high water pressure, so the overflow protection was unable to divert all that water. Since he left his apartment to buy rutabaga for his traditional Norwegian Christmas meal, a considerable body of water flowed over his kitchen floor and caused flooding damage to all his neighbors living directly under him (remember, he was living on the top floor). Hence, it became a very expensive meal for him since he had to pay a considerable compensation for the renovation work, and the insurance company wouldn't cover much of it since they judged him to have been careless and sloppy.

Now, what the heck was he rinsing in his sink?
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Was it only one item? Was the item related to his Christmas dinner at all? Was it a food item? Another ingredient for his dish?
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Was it only one item? No, a few of them. Maybe 10 - 15 pieces Was the item related to his Christmas dinner at all? Yes, very much so Was it a food item? Yes Another ingredient for his dish? Yes
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Fish? Lutefisk?
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Fish? Lutefisk? No fish this time
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Is it a vegetable? fruit? grain product? dairy product? meat? fish? a spice? a condiment?
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(Minus the fish part since we've ruled that one out already. I merely copied my list from above :D )
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Smalahove? Pinnekj°tt? Sausage? Porridge relevant? Would it have happened, had he been rinsing something completely different? Did the stuff he rinsed contribute to the problem?
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Doriana:

Is it a vegetable? fruit? grain product? dairy product? meat? This fish? a spice? a condiment?

Galfisk:

Smalahove? Pinnekj°tt? Yes - Pinnekj°tt it is Sausage? Porridge relevant?

Would it have happened, had he been rinsing something completely different? Perhaps, if it was something that needed less rinsing and soaking to get rid of the salt Did the stuff he rinsed contribute to the problem? No - only that it takes a lot of rinsing and soaking to get rid of the surplus of salt.

Spoiling time (and please don't forget to look up my earlier puzzle 'Underground Intelligence'):
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************* SPOILER *************

True story, though name is my invention:

Oscar was living on the 3rd floor of a block in suburban Oslo, and was preparing the traditional Norwegian Christmas dish 'Pinnekj°tt' in his kitchen. Pinnekj°tt is cured, salted, dried and sometimes smoked ribs of mutton. To make such a dish edible, you must rinse and soak the meat for a long time in cold and running water, else it is far too salty to eat.

Pinnekj°tt is by custom always served with potatoes and mashed rutabaga (swede). Unfortunately, Oscar had forgotten to buy the swede (which is a very cheap ingredient), and left home to go shopping it while still letting the meat rinse in running water in the sink.

However, he had left it with too high water pressure, so the sink flooded and water gushed onto the kithcen floor. From there, it seeped through his neighbors┤ ceilings and caused heavy damage to several apartments in the block. He obviously spent a long time in the shop, because firefighters were called to break into Oscar┤s apartment to turn off the running water.

Oscar┤s insurance company weren't happy with the way Oscar had handled this, so they refused to cover a major part of the repair expenses due to his sloppiness. So what started out as a simple purchase of a cheap vegetable ingredient, ended with a heavy toll on Oscar┤s economy.

BTW: if you want to learn more about 'Pinnekj°tt', you may have a look at this following link:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnekj%C3%B8tt

Thanks to all participants who contributed to finally solve the puzzle!

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