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Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1904 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 10:45 am: |      |
It helped one but harmed the other |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4808 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 12:32 pm: |      |
It: an action? An object? An event? One: one person? The other: one person? True story? Could it have helped one without harming the other? Could it have harmed the other without helping the first one? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1905 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 2:36 pm: |      |
It: an action? This An object? An event? One: one person? The other: one person? No to both True story? Yes Could it have helped one without harming the other? No, it would always harm the "other" Could it have harmed the other without helping the first one? Yes |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4812 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 3:10 pm: |      |
Was the one helped because the other was harmed? Or was the help unrelated to the harm? One: a group of humans? The other: a group of humans? Was the action done by: one human? Several humans? Was it meant to help? Was it meant to harm? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1910 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 3:20 pm: |      |
Was the one helped because the other was harmed? Or was the help unrelated to the harm? This, except in that they were caused by the same action One: a group of humans? The other: a group of humans? No to both Was the action done by: one human? Several humans? In this case it was done by one human, but has been done by many others also Was it meant to help? Was it meant to harm? Neither, really |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4813 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 3:25 pm: |      |
one: living thing? Other: living thing? One: one thing? Several? Same q for the other. Harm: injury? Damage? Financial loss? Help: financial gain? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1911 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 3:31 pm: |      |
one: living thing? Yope Other: living thing? No One: one thing? This Several? Same q for the other. One thing Harm: injury? Yope or yesish Damage? Yes Financial loss?No Help: financial gain? No |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2262 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 9:21 am: |      |
Computer games relevant? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1920 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 10:12 am: |      |
Computer games relevant? No |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3617 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 7:15 pm: |      |
is this fiction? film? book? mythology? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1923 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 8:00 pm: |      |
is this fiction? film? book? mythology? No, real life, though I have seen it shown in at least one fictional setting (in this case TV) |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4823 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 1:19 pm: |      |
Yopishly living thing: something that was living earlier? A virus? A representation of a living thing? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1933 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 1:25 pm: |      |
Yopishly living thing: something that was living earlier? A virus? A representation of a living thing? No to all. Also, I made a BLOOPER - the one which was helped is not a living thing, the other which was harmed is yopishly living. Sorry!! |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4825 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 3:36 pm: |      |
Is the nonliving thing bigger than a: grain of sand? Fingernail? Tennis ball? Toaster? Breadbox? Microwave oven? Washer? Car? House? Train? Same q about the yopishly living thing. |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1934 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 4:37 pm: |      |
Is the nonliving thing bigger than a: grain of sand? Fingernail? Tennis ball? Toaster? Breadbox? Microwave oven? Washer? Car? House? Train? Same q about the yopishly living thing. Both are abstract concepts that can't be measured |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4830 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 4:10 pm: |      |
Same questions for one and the other: A feeling? Freedom? Wealth? Fame? Health? OTRT? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1948 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 12:35 am: |      |
Same questions for one and the other: A feeling? Freedom? Wealth? Fame? Health? This is the other, good question OTRT? The one is none of these, feeling is probably closest, but you are definitely working along the right lines |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4833 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 6:44 am: |      |
So it harmed someone's health, which is what it always does? But helped something else, which it doesn't always do? Is it a drug? A poison? A weapon? An accident? Is "it" also a concept? Does both "one" and the health belong to the same person? Does "one" belong to anyone at all? How about "it"? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1949 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 11:06 am: |      |
So it harmed someone's health, which is what it always does? Correct But helped something else, which it doesn't always do? Yes Is it a drug? Thisish A poison? Also sort of this A weapon? An accident? Is "it" also a concept? No to the rest Does both "one" and the health belong to the same person? Yes Does "one" belong to anyone at all? Yes, in the same sense that your health 'belongs' to you How about "it"? 'It' is an action carried out by that person |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4837 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 11:54 am: |      |
Is it a medicine? Did the person intend to: help? Harm? Both? Commit suicide? Become sick? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1952 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 12:44 pm: |      |
Is it a medicine? No Did the person intend to: help? No Harm? No, though they almost certainly knew it would be harmful Both? Commit suicide? No Become sick? No |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4841 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 1:25 pm: |      |
Is it a legal drug? Such as alcohol? Or tobacco? Addiction relevant? Was a more serious condition discovered and treated because the person was being diagnosed/treated for the harm? Is the person HAM? Relevant? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1955 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 11:22 pm: |      |
Is it a legal drug? Such as alcohol? Or tobacco? This Addiction relevant? Only in that that is one of the ways tobacco is harmful Was a more serious condition discovered and treated because the person was being diagnosed/treated for the harm? No Is the person H Yes A Yes M? Irrel Relevant? Gender is not relevant, humanity is relevant, and assume they are old enough to smoke at least |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4853 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 7:38 am: |      |
Did he have a medical condition unrelated to smoking?Was he helped by: the physical effects of smoking? The mental effects of smoking? By smoking at a particular time and place? By having smokes with him at a particular time and place? Or matches/lighter? Relevant what he smoked? Where? How much? How often? Would it have worked if he: used snuff or chew tobacco? Smoked electronic cigarettes? Used nicotine gum or other medicine instead if smoking? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1958 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 11:18 am: |      |
Did he have a medical condition unrelated to smoking?Irrel Was he helped by: the physical effects of smoking? The mental effects of smoking? By smoking at a particular time and place? This, no to rest By having smokes with him at a particular time and place? Or matches/lighter? Relevant what he smoked? Only cigarettes would work really Where? Yes How much? No How often? Somewhat Would it have worked if he: used snuff or chew tobacco? Smoked electronic cigarettes? Used nicotine gum or other medicine instead if smoking? No to all |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4859 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 10:48 pm: |      |
Did he have to go some place in order to smoke? Did the good thing happen bacause he: was at a certain place t the time? Was absent from a certain place at the time? Did something significant happen while he was having a smoke? Would it have worked if he smoked a pipe? Or if he was finishing his last cigarette? Did someone bum a cigarette? Did smoking help by meeting a person? A girlfriend? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1961 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 11:15 pm: |      |
Did he have to go some place in order to smoke? Yes Did the good thing happen bacause he: was at a certain place t the time? Yesish; there is not just one single incident of smoking that is relevant here Was absent from a certain place at the time? No Did something significant happen while he was having a smoke? Yope Would it have worked if he smoked a pipe? Yes Or if he was finishing his last cigarette? Not sure what you mean by this Did someone bum a cigarette? No Did smoking help by meeting a person? Yes A girlfriend? No |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4868 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 24, 2012 - 5:35 pm: |      |
Person: friend? Enemy? Colleague? Competitor? Did he learn something important from this person? Or get help from this person? Is the person HAM? Relevant? Si that person a smoker? Relevant? Did he meet the person: on smoke breaks? When buying smokes? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1967 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 24, 2012 - 6:01 pm: |      |
Person: friend? Yope Enemy? Colleague? Yes Competitor? No Did he learn something important from this person? No Or get help from this person? Noish Is the person HAM? Assume human adult, sex irrel Relevant? Si that person a smoker? Yes Relevant? Yes Did he meet the person: on smoke breaks? This When buying smokes? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1968 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 24, 2012 - 6:02 pm: |      |
I missed out a no after "enemy", sorry! |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4870 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 11:20 am: |      |
Yope-friend: rival? Non-friend who became a friend? Is the profession of either person relevant? Do they have the same profession? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1970 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 12:58 am: |      |
Yope-friend: rival? Non-friend who became a friend? This Is the profession of either person relevant? No Do they have the same profession? Yes, or work in the same place at least You actually pretty much have all the pieces, they just need putting together! |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 18063 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 3:58 pm: |      |
So he met a coworker while on a smoke break and they wound up becoming friends? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1981 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2012 - 4:51 pm: |      |
So he met a coworker while on a smoke break and they wound up becoming friends? Yep, that'll do ***SPOILER*** One of my friends mentioned recently how although she knows smoking is bad for her, it does wonders for her social life - she recently started a new job and has ended up making friends with other smokers because she sees them regularly in the smoking area. So smoking harmed her health, but helped her social life. Thanks to Galfisk for following this all the way through and Balin for getting the exact spoiler :-) |