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Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 6:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How did his assistant's obsession with authenticity ruin Professor B's experiment?
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Was the experiment performed on people? On one person? On a device? On a substance? On something living? On an idea?
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Was the experiment performed on people? yes On one person? On a device? On a substance? On something living? On an idea? no to rest
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People: random sample? People of a certain: race? Age? Culture? Gender? Workplace? Birthplace? Living place? Economic standing? Social standing? Language? Profession? Physical characteristic? Mental characteristic? Disease relevant? Genes?
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People: random sample? People of a certain: race? Age? this Culture? to some extent Gender? not necessarily, but the people in this experiment were all female Workplace? Birthplace? this Living place? this Economic standing? to some extent Social standing? to some extent Language? this Profession? Physical characteristic? Mental characteristic? Disease relevant? Genes? all unanswered are no
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was the assistant responsible for selecting the sample?

conducting part of the experiment? all of it? documenting the results?

authenticity in the materials used? language? the way the experiment was conducted?
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was the assistant responsible for selecting the sample? no

conducting part of the experiment? all of it? documenting the results? irrel to all

authenticity in the materials used? this language? the way the experiment was conducted? no to rest
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By "materials use" do you mean the people? Or other objects used in the experiment?
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By "materials use" do you mean the people? no Or other objects used in the experiment? yes
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materials - food? drugs? printed matter?
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materials - food? drugs? printed matter? no to all, although food is somewhat OTRT
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Drink? Utensils? Food traditions? Meals? Meal times? Meal names? Food names? Something else names?
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Medications?
Did Prof. B conduct a psychological experiment? sociological? medical?
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Drink? more OTRT than food, but see next answer Utensils? this Food traditions? Meals? Meal times? Meal names? Food names? Something else names? no to rest

Medications? no
Did Prof. B conduct a psychological experiment? sociological? medical? Actually, it was an experiment in linguistics, but psychological or sociological would work as well, under certain circumstances
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Drinking glasses? Straws? Plates? Bowls? Cups? Cutlery?

Were the materials used in the experiment itself? Did the participants interact with them? Were they used in collecting data? Analysing results?

Did it ruin the experiment by making it impossible to carry out? Changing the way people behaved in the experiment? Giving false results? Making the experiment invalid (eg not controlled enough, biased in some way)?
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Drinking glasses? Straws? Plates? Bowls? Cups? this, and something else Cutlery?

Were the materials used in the experiment itself? yesish Did the participants interact with them? yope Were they used in collecting data? no Analysing results? no

Did it ruin the experiment by making it impossible to carry out? no Changing the way people behaved in the experiment? no Giving false results? no Making the experiment invalid (eg not controlled enough, biased in some way)? no... I guess it'd be helpful to find out a bit more about the experiment.
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Did the experiment involve making the participants carry out a task? Tasks? Asking them questions? Was there any deception involved? Were the participants aware of the true aim of the experiment? Were the participants divided into groups? Was the experiment repeated under different conditions? With different groups?
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Did the experiment involve making the participants carry out a task? yope, DOYD of "task" Tasks? Asking them questions? Was there any deception involved? no to these Were the participants aware of the true aim of the experiment? as far as I know, yes Were the participants divided into groups? Was the experiment repeated under different conditions? With different groups? irrel to all
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Cups and: saucers? Teaspoons? Something drinkable? Are the cups: paper cups? Plastic? Ceramic? Glass? Teacups? Coffee cups? Do the participants: touch them? Look at them? Use them? Name them? Multiple words for one item relevant?
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Cups and: saucers? this Teaspoons? probably also this Something drinkable? assume that either coffee or tea was provided Are the cups: paper cups? Plastic? Ceramic? this Glass? Teacups? Coffee cups? either tea or coffee cups Do the participants: touch them? yes Look at them? probably Use them? yes Name them? no Multiple words for one item relevant? no
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As a clarification - the presence of saucers is the most important thing from the last round of questions.
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Were there supposed to be saucers? Or was it critical that there were no saucers? Or were they the wrong saucers?
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Were there supposed to be saucers? NO! Good q! Or was it critical that there were no saucers? no Or were they the wrong saucers? no
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Is it relevant whether the participants used the cups and saucers properly, according to savoir-vivre rules?
Was the purpose of the tea/coffee equipment to encourage conversations? Did the participants talk to each other during the experiment?
Did the experiment require ceramic cups and saucers, instead of, for example, paper ones?
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Did the assistant provide saucers? Did the saucers ruin the experiment? Did the experiment involve the participants drinking? Holding the cups? Pouring? Speaking? Were the drinks actually part of the experiment itself?

Does 'authenticity' refer to a belief that cups should come with saucers?
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Is it relevant whether the participants used the cups and saucers properly, according to savoir-vivre rules? assume they used them in a very normal way
Was the purpose of the tea/coffee equipment to encourage conversations? yesish Did the participants talk to each other during the experiment? yes, which is very relevant
Did the experiment require ceramic cups and saucers, instead of, for example, paper ones? yope

Did the assistant provide saucers? yes Did the saucers ruin the experiment? yes Did the experiment involve the participants drinking? not necessarily, but they did drink Holding the cups? Pouring? no to these Speaking? mainly this Were the drinks actually part of the experiment itself? no

Does 'authenticity' refer to a belief that cups should come with saucers? YES!

The authenticity part is solved - the assistant thought cups should always come with saucers and therefore provided them.

How did the saucers ruin the experiment?
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Were the saucers: on a table? In the hands of participants? Were they played with? Did they make a relevant noise? Was something relevant put on them? Were conversations recorded? Relevant? Gestures relevant? Were the people not gesturing because they were balancing saucers?
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Were the saucers: on a table? In the hands of participants? could be both Were they played with? no Did they make a relevant noise? yes! Was something relevant put on them? only the cups Were conversations recorded? yes Relevant? very! Gestures relevant? no Were the people not gesturing because they were balancing saucers? good idea, but no

You have all the necessary information now - wanna put the pieces together, Galfisk or Enjay?
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Could the researcher not hear the recorded speech over the sound of cups clinking onto saucers?
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Could the researcher not hear the recorded speech over the sound of cups clinking onto saucers? Exactly! Time for the

********SPOILER********

Professor B is a sociolinguist who does research on dialects. To collect data, he usually records the conversations of dialect speakers in his lab, but since he wants the conversations to be as natural as possible, he tries to set up an "authentic" environment where the participants are at ease.

One of his sample groups was a group of old ladies for whom his assistant was supposed to set up a fake living room including coffee and cake. He wanted to make it as authentic as possible, so of course he provided ceramic cups with saucers.

Unfortunately, the only thing Professor B could hear on the recording was the sound of cups clinking on said saucers...


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