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Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 10:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why is there a pair of shoes in Trevor's chimney?

This is taken from the plot of a novel, so if you've read it, please don't spoil straight away!
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Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 11:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have a wild guess I'd like to send, but your email's not on your profile. Is there a way I can contact you?
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Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 11:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'll email the address in your profile
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Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 11:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Guess sent
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Yep, you got it! Well done :-)
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Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 11:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wow, a shot in the dark pays off!
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Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 11:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Trevor H/A/M?
Trevor's chimney = the chimney of the house Trevor lives in? Does he live there alone? Relevant?

Are they his shoes? Did he place them there intentionally? accidentally?

Santa relevant?
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Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 11:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Trevor H/A/M? Yes
Trevor's chimney = the chimney of the house Trevor lives in? Yesish, something of an FA Does he live there alone? Yesish, with same FA Relevant? Yes

Are they his shoes? Yes Did he place them there intentionally? accidentally? No to both

Santa relevant? No
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Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 11:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does he live in an apartment building?

Did someone else place the shoes there?
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Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 11:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does he live in an apartment building? No, FA is still present

Did someone else place the shoes there? Yes
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Does he live in a dormitory?
Or just something other than a conventional house?
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Posted on Monday, January 21, 2013 - 8:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Trevor dead?
Did he die in the chimney?
Is his body still attached to his boots?
Type of shoe relevant?
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Does he live in a dormitory?
Or just something other than a conventional house? No to both

Is Trevor dead? YES - FA cleared
Did he die in the chimney? No
Is his body still attached to his boots? No
Type of shoe relevant? Yes
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Are the shoes sneakers? loafers? boots? sandals? slippers?
Are they mens' shoes? womens'? kids'? Did they use to be Trevor's shoes?

The person who placed the shoes there - a family member of Trevor? a friend? acquaintance? neighbour?

Is it a custom / tradition to place the shoes of a deceased person in their chimney?

Relevant how Trevor died? How long he has been dead for?
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Posted on Monday, January 21, 2013 - 10:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the shoes sneakers? loafers? boots? sandals? slippers? Boots
Are they mens' shoes? womens'? kids'? Mens' Did they use to be Trevor's shoes? Yes

The person who placed the shoes there - a family member of Trevor? a friend? This acquaintance? neighbour?

Is it a custom / tradition to place the shoes of a deceased person in their chimney? No

Relevant how Trevor died? Yes How long he has been dead for? Yes
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Has he been dead for less than a week? less than a month? less than a year? less than five years? more than that?

Did his friend place the shoes there right after his death? With a delay?

Did Trevor die of natural causes? an accident? was he murdered?
Did he die at home? Relevant?
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Has he been dead for less than a week? This (assuming we are counting from the moment when the shoes were in the chimney; the book this is from is set in the past) less than a month? less than a year? less than five years? more than that?

Did his friend place the shoes there right after his death? Yes With a delay?

Did Trevor die of natural causes? an accident? was he murdered? This
Did he die at home? Yes Relevant? Yes
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Was he murdered by his friend? By someone he knew? By a stranger?

Did the friend try to cover up the murder? to make it look like suicide? like an accident?

Are the police investigating the case? Are they looking for traces?
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Was he murdered by his friend? Yes By someone he knew? By a stranger?

Did the friend try to cover up the murder? Yope to make it look like suicide? like an accident? No to both these

Are the police investigating the case? Yes Are they looking for traces? Yes
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Is it relevant how he was murdered? If so, shot? strangled? stabbed? suffocated? poisoned? blunt force?

Relevant why his friend murdered him? Relationships relevant? jealousy? money?
Is his friend H/A/M? F? relevant?

When his friend places the shoes in the chimney, is he already a suspect?

Relevant who found the body?
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Posted on Monday, January 21, 2013 - 11:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it relevant how he was murdered? No If so, shot? strangled? stabbed? suffocated? poisoned? blunt force?

Relevant why his friend murdered him? No Relationships relevant? jealousy? money?
Is his friend H/A/M? F? relevant? HAM, relevant

When his friend places the shoes in the chimney, is he already a suspect? No

Relevant who found the body? Yes
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Can we call his friend Ron?

Did the person who found the body have access to Trevor's house? Was the body found in his house in the first place? Or had his murderer disposed of it someplace else?
Was it a relative? a friend? a neighbour? the police? the cleaning lady/gardener/mailman/...? Is it a H/A/M? F?
Did the person find the body accidentally? Was s/he looking for Trevor?

Did his friend try to avoid becoming a suspect? to make it look as if someone else was the murderer?
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Can we call his friend Ron? Certainly

Did the person who found the body have access to Trevor's house? Yes Was the body found in his house in the first place? Yes Or had his murderer disposed of it someplace else? No
Was it a relative? a friend? This, but be careful! a neighbour? the police? and this the cleaning lady/gardener/mailman/...? Is it a H/A/M? F? HAM with a police officer
Did the person find the body accidentally? Noish Was s/he looking for Trevor? Yope

Did his friend try to avoid becoming a suspect? Yes to make it look as if someone else was the murderer? Not anyone specific
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Is the friend who found the body Ron? Did he pretend he had found it? Did he call the police?
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Is the friend who found the body Ron? Yes Did he pretend he had found it? Yes Did he call the police? Yes
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Did he put the shoes in the chimney in order to: keep them from being found? Delay their finding? Let them be found in there? Or did they fill some other function inside the chimney? Such as blocking it? Becoming charred? Catching fire? Making smoke? Getting smoked? Smelling bad? Did he put them inside from the top? Side? Bottom? Relevant?
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Did he put the shoes in the chimney in order to: keep them from being found? This Delay their finding? Let them be found in there?
Or did they fill some other function inside the chimney? No to all these Such as blocking it? Becoming charred? Catching fire? Making smoke? Getting smoked? Smelling bad?
Did he put them inside from the top? Side? Bottom? Relevant? He stuffed them in from the fireplace below, only relevant in that that is the easiest way to get something into a chimney
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Is there something relevant about the shoes themselves, except the fat that they're boots? Is it important to know why he had boots? Was he wearing them when he died? Are they new? Old? Easily recognized? Changed in a relevant way? Is something relevant on them? Such as a substance he has stepped in?
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Is there something relevant about the shoes themselves, except the fat that they're boots? Yes Is it important to know why he had boots? Yes Was he wearing them when he died? No Are they new? Old? This but irrel Easily recognized? Irrel Changed in a relevant way? No Is something relevant on them? No Such as a substance he has stepped in?
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Does he have boots in order to: keep warm in cold conditions? Keep dry in wet conditions? Keep clean in dirty conditions? Keep a firm footing in slippery conditions? Keep safe in dangerous conditions? Walk in rough terrain? Climb? Run? Have rugged footwear that can stand a lot of wear and tear? Are the boots steel-capped? Relevant? Does he have any other relevant footwear? Are the boots evidence of his profession? Of a hobby? a habit? Of having been somewhere at a particular time? Scent relevant?
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All unanswered are no:
Does he have boots in order to: keep warm in cold conditions? This is part of it Keep dry in wet conditions? And this Keep clean in dirty conditions? Keep a firm footing in slippery conditions? Keep safe in dangerous conditions? Walk in rough terrain? Climb? Run? Have rugged footwear that can stand a lot of wear and tear? Are the boots steel-capped? Irrel Relevant? Does he have any other relevant footwear? No Are the boots evidence of his profession? No Of a hobby? Yesish, this is the most relevant point a habit? No Of having been somewhere at a particular time? No Scent relevant? No
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Hobbyish: something done outside? Trekking? Hunting? Fishing? Running? Construction? Logging? Farming? Some sport? Were the boots associated with a specific sport?
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Hobbyish: something done outside? Yes Trekking? Hunting? Fishing? Running? Construction? Logging? Farming? No to all Some sport? Yes Were the boots associated with a specific sport? Yes
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Sport: motor sport? Snow sport? Water sport? Ice sport? Summer sport? Team sport? Are they ski boots? Snowboard boots? Are they hidden in order to hide the fact that Trevor used to partake in that sport? Did the murderer also partake in the same sport?
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Sport: motor sport? Snow sport? Water sport? Ice sport? Summer sport? Team sport? Are they ski boots? This Snowboard boots?
Are they hidden in order to hide the fact that Trevor used to partake in that sport? No... Did the murderer also partake in the same sport? Yes!
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Was anything except the skiing boots hidden there? Type of skiing relevant? If so: cross country? Slalom? Downhill? Did Trevor come to this place wearing the boots? Did he come on skis? Did the murderer hide something else relevant? If so: skis? Poles? Clothing? Other skiing equipment? If he hid anything else, was that also put inside the chimney? Or removed from he house? Relevant why he murdered his skiing buddy? (Were they skiing buddies?)
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Was anything except the skiing boots hidden there? No Type of skiing relevant? Somewhat If so: cross country? I think it would count as this Slalom? Downhill?
Did Trevor come to this place wearing the boots? Did he come on skis? No to both
Did the murderer hide something else relevant? Yope If so: skis? This Poles? Maybe this too, not sure. No to rest Clothing? Other skiing equipment?
If he hid anything else, was that also put inside the chimney? No Or removed from he house? No
Relevant why he murdered his skiing buddy? No (Were they skiing buddies?) Irrel
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Did the skis he yopishly hid belong to: the victim? The murderer? Someone else? Yopishly hiding: camouflaging? Destroying? Removing? Moving? Did he not want investigators to link Trevor to skiing? Or to a particular skiing activity? Or skiing at a particular time? Was Trevor killed in his home? Was he sharing the home with the murderer? with someone else?
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Did the skis he yopishly hid belong to: the victim? The murderer? This Someone else?
Yopishly hiding: camouflaging? Yesish, no to rest Destroying? Removing? Moving? Did he not want investigators to link Trevor to skiing? Not this Or to a particular skiing activity? No Or skiing at a particular time? No
Was Trevor killed in his home? Yes Was he sharing the home with the murderer? with someone else? No to both
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Relevant how Trevor was murdered? How the murderer came there? How he left? How Trevor came there? When Trevor came there? Was the murderer already there, when Trevor came home? Relevant? Were the skis covered by something? Placed among ski-like objects? Placed somewhere people would be unlikely to look? Or unlikely to notice them?
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Are ski tracks in the snow relevant? Did the murderer arrive by skiing? Leave by skiing? Did Trevor arrive by skiing?
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Relevant how Trevor was murdered? No How the murderer came there? Yes How he left? Yes How Trevor came there? No When Trevor came there? No Was the murderer already there, when Trevor came home? No Relevant? Yes Were the skis covered by something? No Placed among ski-like objects? Yes Placed somewhere people would be unlikely to look? No Or unlikely to notice them? Yesish

Are ski tracks in the snow relevant? No, but... Did the murderer arrive by skiing? ...yes! Leave by skiing? No Did Trevor arrive by skiing? No
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Did the murderer arrive with Trevor's ski boots? If so: wearing them? Carrying them? Did he arrive with his own skis? Did he arrive in order to give Trevor the boots? Were the skis placed among other skis? Among other winter sports equipment? Among trees? Logs? Planks?
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Did the murderer arrive with Trevor's ski boots? No If so: wearing them? Carrying them?
Did he arrive with his own skis? Yes Did he arrive in order to give Trevor the boots? No Were the skis placed among other skis? Yes Among other winter sports equipment? Yes Among trees? Logs? Planks?
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Did the murderer wear ski boots when he was skiing? Did he take them with him when he left? If not, did he leave them somewhere relevant? Did he leave on foot? Snowmobile? Car? Other ground vehicle? Air vehicle? Leaving tracks while leaving relevant? Did he want to make it look like: he hadn't been there? Someone else had been there? Nobody had been there? Did he intend to commit a crime when he went there? If so, did he intend to murder Trevor? Or did he only think about hiding his tracks after the murder had taken place?
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Did the murderer wear ski boots when he was skiing? Yes Did he take them with him when he left? No If not, did he leave them somewhere relevant? Yes Did he leave on foot? Yes, no to others Snowmobile? Car? Other ground vehicle? Air vehicle? Leaving tracks while leaving relevant? No Did he want to make it look like: he hadn't been there? Yope Someone else had been there? No Nobody had been there? Yope Did he intend to commit a crime when he went there? Yes If so, did he intend to murder Trevor? Yes Or did he only think about hiding his tracks after the murder had taken place? No, it was pre-planned
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Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 1:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BLOOPER, sorry:
Did he take them with him when he left? Should be yes If not, did he leave them somewhere relevant? Should therefore be no
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Did he want to make it look like Trevor had arrived on skis? Are any tracks outside relevant at all? Is there snow outside? Did he leave walking in: ski boots? Other boots? Boots belonging to Trevor? Did he leave walking backwards? Did he want to make it look like he arrived on foot and left on skis, instead of vice versa? Did he want to make it look like some of his tracks belonged to Trevor? Or vice versa?
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Did he want to make it look like Trevor had arrived on skis? No Are any tracks outside relevant at all? No Is there snow outside? Yes Did he leave walking in: ski boots? This Other boots? No Boots belonging to Trevor? No Did he leave walking backwards? No Did he want to make it look like he arrived on foot Yes and left on skis, No instead of vice versa? Did he want to make it look like some of his tracks belonged to Trevor? Or vice versa? No to both
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did he want to make it look as if he'd only just arrived?
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Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2013 - 8:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he want to make it look as if he'd only just arrived? Yes
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 7:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so he skied there, did the murder, hid the boots then left on foot, coming back much later? was walking there his alibi? like he couldn't have done the murder because he was still on his way in the snow?
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Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 9:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so he skied there, did the murder, hid the boots then left on foot, coming back much later? was walking there his alibi? like he couldn't have done the murder because he was still on his way in the snow? Yes! I think that's all the main points

*****SPOILER*****
Ron wanted to kill his friend Trevor, but needed an alibi. Fortunately for Ron, he lives in an isolated house outside of the village where Trevor lives, and it was snowing. Ron organised a gathering at his house, then claimed to have a reason to be worried about Trevor and set off to check on him. He secretly fastened on his skis, whizzed down and killed Trevor. Then he left and came back later, pretending to have just arrived on foot, and fetched a policeman to 'discover' Trevor's body. So long as nobody realised he had skied there he had an alibi for the time of death, since the journey would have taken several hours on foot. So he put his skis in the cupboard where Trevor kept his, and hid Trevor's ski boots, in case the sight of them led someone's mind to skiing or in case they realised that the boots would not fit both pairs of skis in the cupboard.

This is taken from the plot of an Agatha Christie novel, which I hope I haven't just ruined for anyone reading it!
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Posted on Monday, January 28, 2013 - 12:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I watched a television adaption of this mystery recently.
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Posted on Monday, January 28, 2013 - 1:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

excellent!
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Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 12:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That was one of the last Christie books I read, and when you said "novel" it clicked. Great puzzle!!

By the way, how do you pronounce the place name in the title?
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Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 5:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'd pronounce it SIT-uh-fud, but I don't believe it to be a real place so that's just how I naturally read it. I quite like the book as it's one of the ones set in the landscape Christie lived in which is right by my hometown.

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