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Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 2:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 01:20 pm:


Could the word for this "property" be misinterprated? it's not just one word - but yes, it could

Or in your case, did you associate it in a different context to that which it was intended? yes, but mine is the correct interpretation, theirs is wrong

To clarify:
the "property" belongs to egg white? yes
and sucrose? yes

The "property" is stated in the advert? NO
Or alluded to in the advert? yesish

The "property" is key to solving the puzzle? yes
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 2:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

On second thoughts:

The "property" is stated in the advert? NO YES
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 4:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the advert use the phrase incorrectly? Inappropriately? Such that one who knows the correct usage might think of meringue (or the ingredients therein)?

Is it intended to convey that the food served is particularly healthy? That it lacks some kind of harmful substance(s)? That it's "organic"?
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 6:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 04:24 pm:


Does the advert use the phrase incorrectly? yes Inappropriately? yes Such that one who knows the correct usage might think of meringue (or the ingredients therein)? yes

Is it intended to convey that the food served is particularly healthy? yes That it lacks some kind of harmful substance(s)? yes That it's "organic"? probably
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 8:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does it imply:
easy digestibility?
natural substances?
natural to the extent of matching human tissue composition?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 9:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any of these relevant:
whole food?
natural food?
complete food?
complete energy?
complete protein?

"Joe's Cafe serves you complete protein and energy?"

(cold? / lukewarm? / better?)
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 9:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 08:56 am:


does it imply:
easy digestibility? no
natural substances? yes
natural to the extent of matching human tissue composition? no

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 09:18 am:


Any of these relevant:
whole food?
natural food? this is closest
complete food?
complete energy?
complete protein?

"Joe's Cafe serves you complete protein and energy?" no

(cold? / lukewarm? this one / better?)
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 7:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is lukewarm here = body temperature?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 10:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the inappropriate phrase based on:
incorrect syntax?
Incorrect context for word / some words?
Mispelling?
Something else?
Any technical wording used?
Or was it all layman language?

Does this work equally well in swedish and english?


any of these words or terms relevant:
whole food?
raw?
unprocessed?
unrefined?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 12:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

100% fat free?
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 6:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tommy Petersson (Tommyp) on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 07:51 pm:


Is lukewarm here = body temperature? thereabout - which temperature is hot, do you think?

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 10:55 pm:


Was the inappropriate phrase based on:
incorrect syntax?
Incorrect context for word / some words? this
Mispelling?
Something else?
Any technical wording used? yesish
Or was it all layman language? yesish

Does this work equally well in swedish and english? as far as I understand, yes


any of these words or terms relevant:
whole food?
raw?
unprocessed?
unrefined? no

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 12:33 am:


100% fat free? no
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 9:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

At the risk of repeating myself (as the memory dims with the aging process) are any of these words used (or relevant):

energy?
life?
health(y)?
vital(ity)?
clean?
nutritious?
nourish(ing)?
wholesome?
home-made?

anything warm? (If so which one :-))
lukewarm?

The healthy implication:

was it promoting the abscence of a negative?
e.g. free from additives?

or a positiive?
e.g. only whole foods?

Was there anything about non meat / vegetarian?
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 9:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 09:13 am:


At the risk of repeating myself (as the memory dims with the aging process) are any of these words used (or relevant):

energy?
life?
health(y)?
vital(ity)?
clean?
nutritious?
nourish(ing)?
wholesome?
home-made? no

anything warm? (If so which one :-))
lukewarm? wholesome is perhaps closest, but none are very close

The healthy implication:

was it promoting the abscence of a negative? yes!
e.g. free from additives? but not this

or a positiive? no
e.g. only whole foods?

Was there anything about non meat / vegetarian? no
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 3:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the connection between egg-white and sucrose that the human digestive system can utelize it 100%?

In context, would any other foods fit the same category as egg-white and sucrose ?

Does the sign state that there is an abscence of:
cholesterol?
Poisons?
Harmful ingredients?
Processing?
Modified ingredients?
Impurities?
waste?
Undigestible materials?

Doe the sign say something to the effect that Nothing goes to waste?

any warmer yet?

If not, is the abscence of the nagative along the lines of:
something tangible?
something conceptual?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 8:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

abscence of free radicals relevant?
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 6:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 03:16 pm:


Is the connection between egg-white and sucrose that the human digestive system can utelize it 100%? no

In context, would any other foods fit the same category as egg-white and sucrose ? pretty few

Does the sign state that there is an abscence of:
cholesterol?
Poisons?
Harmful ingredients? indirectly
Processing?
Modified ingredients? yesish
Impurities?
waste?
Undigestible materials? no to rest

Doe the sign say something to the effect that Nothing goes to waste? no

any warmer yet? yes

If not, is the abscence of the nagative along the lines of:
something tangible?
something conceptual? hard to answer :)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 08:11 pm:


abscence of free radicals relevant? no
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 9:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Have we already eliminated Non Genetically Modified foods?

Does the phraseology rendering the abscence of the negative use the words:
no?
non?
nothing?
nil?
free from/of?
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 10:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 09:32 am:


Have we already eliminated Non Genetically Modified foods? no, we have not

Does the phraseology rendering the abscence of the negative use the words:
no? this
non?
nothing?
nil?
free from/of?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 1:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there a mention of no genetically modified products?

Or, did the sign intend to convey this message?

If not is it something similar similar to genetic modification?
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 2:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 01:25 pm:


Was there a mention of no genetically modified products? not exactly...

Or, did the sign intend to convey this message? YES

If not is it something similar similar to genetic modification? laeftr
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the word genetic (or derivation of it) misspelled?

Same question for modified.

Was an incorrect word substituted for genetic?

Same question for modified.

Are there words other than genetic and modified that are an issue?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh by the way - what does "laeftr" mean?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 5:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

left as [an] exercise for the reader. It, like everything else, is all my fault :(
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 6:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 05:24 pm:


was the word genetic (or derivation of it) misspelled? no, but... and FA

Same question for modified. FA

Was an incorrect word substituted for genetic?

Same question for modified. yes, for the combination

Are there words other than genetic and modified that are an issue? no, given the above FA
Ian (Image)
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 12:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Recap, please?
Tony (E20)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 4:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the abbreviation "GM" used and/or misinterpreted?
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 6:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ian (Image) on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 12:56 am:


Recap, please? not at this point, I think - it's almost solved

By Tony (E20) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 04:16 pm:


Is the abbreviation "GM" used and/or misinterpreted? used, no - misinterpreted, perhaps
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 7:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There was a combination of words that were intended to mean "genetically modified" but an incorrect word / or words were used?

The words used made you think of meringue?

The whole phrase was something supposed to mean that there are no genetically modified products in our Joes Cafe (or something like that)?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 7:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is an abbreviation actually relevant?

If I am barking up the right tree, a word or words were used to indicate that there were no GM products - was it one relevant word / two words / more?

Or is it an abbreviation (seperate letters) misused?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 7:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the relevant property of egg white and sucrose also something of a negative / abscence of something? e.g no cholesterol?
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 10:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 07:41 am:


There was a combination of words one word that were intended to mean "genetically modified" but an incorrect word / or words were used? yes

The words used made you think of meringue? yes

The whole phrase was something supposed to mean that there are no genetically modified products in our Joes Cafe (or something like that)? YES

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 07:46 am:


Is an abbreviation actually relevant? no

If I am barking up the right tree, a word or words were used to indicate that there were no GM products - was it one relevant word / two words / more? one

Or is it an abbreviation (seperate letters) misused? no

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 07:49 am:


Is the relevant property of egg white and sucrose also something of a negative / abscence of something? yes e.g no cholesterol? but not this
Tony (E20)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 11:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are egg white and sucrose the only foods which would qualify for the described absence?

Would any of the following also be allowed by the definition as indicated:
Bread?
Turnips?
Beef?
Prawns?
Peanuts?
Chocolate?
Yoghurt?
Sunflowers?
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 12:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tony (E20) on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 11:50 am:


Are egg white and sucrose the only foods which would qualify for the described absence? almost, at least

Would any of the following also be allowed by the definition as indicated:
Bread?
Turnips?
Beef?
Prawns?
Peanuts?
Chocolate?
Yoghurt?
Sunflowers? no
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 2:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fascinating...

Is this one word usually used in the context of:

food?
chemistry?
physics?
biology?

Does this single word have another usage/meaning other than being a property of certain foods/organic material?


Would it be clear that the word in the advert meant GM by reading the sign if read in isolation? Or would the average reader need knowledge about the restraunt?
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 2:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 02:07 pm:


Fascinating...

Is this one word usually used in the context of:

food?
chemistry?
physics?
biology? this one

Does this single word have another usage/meaning other than being a property of certain foods/organic material? um, no


Would it be clear that the word in the advert meant GM by reading the sign if read in isolation? If you mean reading the whole sign in isolation, yes, even for a perverted mind like mine :) - but I can't help noting that what they mean is not what they write Or would the average reader need knowledge about the restraunt? no
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 2:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No genes?
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 2:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 02:28 pm:


No genes? YES!

Spioler will have to wait until the day after tomorrow - I'm just leaving
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 3:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hooray!! :)

Have a good day off!
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*********** SPOILER *************

A restaurant advert read "Our Food Contains No Genes".
As far as I know, the only foodstuffs likely to contain no genes are egg white, crystal sugar, salt and various more or less artificial additives. These combine to meringue in various colours and (artificial) flavours. Yummy!
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 5:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yay! Apologies for my own significant density with figuring this out, but happily Mr. Downham picked up the slack. :O

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