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David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 7:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 06:53 pm:


Seizures relevant? not really air sickness? no panic attacks? yes fear of plane crashes? yes Fear in general? no
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 7:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it the idea that movies are used as in flight entertainment to calm the nervous passenger and take their mind off the thought of crashing. But since 80% of the movies they show are utter rubbish this then does not work!?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 7:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was on a recent flight that showed "The Grudge" as the in-flight movie. I now think it should be mandated that air sickness bags be provided with every screening of that film, in-flight or otherwise.

Does the 80% refer to films? Or people experienceing fear of flying? Or some reaction people have to the films?
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 10:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has this got to do with the screening of plane-crash movies on flight? I vaguely remember this Nicholas Cage movie where they are watching another disaster movie. Con Air was it?
Brian Pamandanan (Sciguy47)
Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 10:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What is the second derivative of 2sinx?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 11:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry - have been neglecting this

>Is it the idea that movies are used as in flight entertainment to calm the nervous passenger and take their mind off the thought of crashing. But since 80% of the movies they show are utter rubbish this then does not work!? this contains some elements of "the right idea", but isn't quite right

By (Stuccosalt) on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 07:33 pm:

Does the 80% refer to films? no Or people experienceing fear of flying? no, but... Or some reaction people have to the films? no

By Arjun (Jun) on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 10:41 pm:

Has this got to do with the screening of plane-crash movies on flight? no I vaguely remember this Nicholas Cage movie where they are watching another disaster movie. Con Air was it? I have no idea, I'm afraid
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 3:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they showing other "scary" movies?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 3:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tommy Petersson (Tommyp) on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 03:22 pm:

Were they showing other "scary" movies? no - again, the fact that films were being shown, rather than (say) music being played, does not really matter
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, they could have played the song "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" to the same effect...

Is it the fact that the people get distracted? do something they otherwise wouldn't? don't do something they otherwise would? sit in a special way? toilet visits relevant?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 3:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tommy Petersson (Tommyp) on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 03:43 pm:

Is it the fact that the people get distracted? do something they otherwise wouldn't? don't do something they otherwise would? sit in a special way? toilet visits relevant? all of these are manifestations of fear of flying, but none of them is particularly relevant
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 3:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the statement suggest that everyone is afraid of flying? But only 20% of people are? Or the other way round?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 4:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 03:56 pm:

Does the statement suggest that everyone is afraid of flying? But only 20% of people are? this is very close indeed Or the other way round? but this isn't :)
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 4:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it true, in fact, that 80% of airline passengers are not afraid of flying? Is that what the 80% refers to?

Is it something like, "You should watch the in-flight movies to calm your fear of flying"?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 4:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 04:09 pm:


Is it true, in fact, that 80% of airline passengers are not afraid of flying? I don't know, but it is a commonly-quoted figure Is that what the 80% refers to? yes, indeed

Is it something like, "You should watch the in-flight movies to calm your fear of flying"? nothing as complex as this
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 4:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the statement talk about "you", referring to a passenger on the plane? about "passengers on planes"? about "everyone"?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 4:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 04:16 pm:

Does the statement talk about "you", referring to a passenger on the plane? about "passengers on planes"? about "everyone"? about none of these. You see, the statement is not very long at all...
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 6:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it something like "Flying scares all"? or something in English?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 6:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Am getting a bit confused again!!!!
Does the statement suggest something along the lines of "80% of passengers who are fearful of flying can forget their fears by keeping themselves occupied i.e through inflight entertainment". whereas perhaps 20% are so scared they are unable to do this!. Vice versa? if not I give up!!! :(
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 3:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 06:38 pm:

Does the statement suggest something along the lines of "80% of passengers who are fearful of flying can forget their fears by keeping themselves occupied i.e through inflight entertainment". whereas perhaps 20% are so scared they are unable to do this!. more or less - but this is an inference only :) Vice versa? no if not I give up!!! don't do that. This really is very close to being solved - all the elements required have been present for some time. As a clue: the "statement" consists of exactly three words - or exactly two words, depending on how you look at it.
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 3:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tommy Petersson (Tommyp) on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 06:33 pm:

Is it something like "Flying scares all"? no, but this is not far from the right forest or something in English? well it's in English, but...
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 5:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a foreign word in this statement at all?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 6:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 05:56 pm:

Is there a foreign word in this statement at all? no - all the words are in English. However, there is a word that does not belong, and that is the basis for the puzzle.
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 6:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the statement grammatically correct? all words spelled correctly within the context of the statement? was there a word which could have had two different interpretations?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 6:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 06:08 pm:

Was the statement grammatically correct? yes, but it did not make a whole lot of sense - except in a silly context all words spelled correctly within the context of the statement? no - there was a misprint was there a word which could have had two different interpretations? no, but...
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So would it be fair to say that a word could have been misinterpreted due to the misprint? i.e. 'their' vs 'they're'
Was the statement an airline slogan?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 7:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Your / You're, by any chance?

When I was in high school a national drug & alcohol awareness program sent posters to most public secondary schools reading "You Drink - You Drive - Your Dead" (sic)...we weren't certain if that was an imperative (that after drinking we were to exhume the bodies of our loved ones and take them for a ride around town) or if the federal gov't was endorsing actually using their corpses as our modes of transportation, to cut down on fuel emissions or something.
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 11:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 06:16 pm:

So would it be fair to say that a word could have been misinterpreted due to the misprint? i.e. 'their' vs 'they're' not really - what was written was capable of only one interpretation. It just wasn't what the author meant to say at all.

Was the statement an airline slogan? no

By (Stuccosalt) on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 07:51 pm:

Your / You're, by any chance? no, but good thinking
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 11:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were any of the following words in the 2/3 word statement in question:-
Flying? fly? Air?
Airline? Plane? flight? in-flight?
Entertainment? DVD? movie? crash? passenger?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 12:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 11:55 pm:

Were any of the following words in the 2/3 word statement in question:-
Flying? fly? Air?
Airline? Plane? flight? in-flight? almost this one :)
Entertainment? and certainly this one DVD? movie? crash? passenger?
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 12:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

fight? infight?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 1:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

infright?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 1:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tommy Petersson (Tommyp) on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 12:58 am:

fight? no infight? no

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 01:11 am:

infright? yes :)

***** SPOILER *****

That riveting document "Minutes of the meeting of the steering committee of the DVD Forum" - a body that sets the standard for video DVDs - mentions a plan for a "Special Purpose DVD to be used for In-Fright Entertainment".

Most people are not afraid of flying (though woubits are :(). Since only one person in five actually spends a plane journey in a state of fright, they were 80% wrong.

Well done Pandora, thanks to all who joined in.
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 11:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well I for one, certainly won't be watching it - Im scared of flying as it is! :(

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