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Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 12:11 am: |       |
Is this related to a school/university? YES Scholarship? but no |
Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
| | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 12:15 am: | |
Grant? Funding for research? Is is called "George Washington endowment for excellence in..."? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 12:45 am: | |
Grant? yes Funding for research? no Is is called "George Washington endowment for excellence in..."? no |
geekity (Geekity)
| | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 1:10 am: | |
Do these people who benefit from this grant have anything else in common other than being recipients? Are they students? Do they go to the same university? their disadvantage - is this physical? financial? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 1:29 am: | |
Do these people who benefit from this grant have anything else in common other than being recipients? yes Are they students? YES Do they go to the same university? yes their disadvantage - is this physical? financial? latter, as many students first starting out began a tad strapped of cash |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 10:02 pm: | |
So, Washington setup a trust fund for hard up students?
What do we ned to discover now Fred? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 10:19 pm: | |
So, Washington setup a trust fund for hard up students? nope! 
What do we ned to discover now Fred? The nature of the grant is key to unlocking the solution... |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 11:21 pm: | |
So Washington didn't set up the trust? |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 11:46 pm: | |
Did someone else set it up?
Did Washingtone set up the trust for some otehr purpose? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 2:58 am: | |
So Washington didn't set up the trust? no, he did
By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 11:46 pm:
Did someone else set it up? no
Did Washingtone set up the trust for some otehr purpose? yes, the grant originally had nothing to do with helping pay individual student tuitions... |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 8:48 am: | |
Somehow the grant wa changed?
Is it relevant how, why and/or by who?
Is it relevant wht the grant was for originally?
Was it originally a grant for education? |
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 3:32 pm: | |
Slavery relevant? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 6:07 pm: | |
Somehow the grant was changed? no
Is it relevant how, why and/or by who?
Is it relevant wht the grant was for originally? YES
Was it originally a grant for education? noish
By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 03:32 pm:
Slavery relevant? not at all |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 6:10 pm: | |
Was the grant originally for:
people?
the poor?
disabled?
people with bright ideas?
Lateral puzzles?
Skateboards? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 6:15 pm: | |
Was the grant originally for:
people? yes, the University as a whole...
the poor? not necessarily
disabled? ditto
people with bright ideas? hopefully
Lateral puzzles? no, we can dream though
Skateboards? yes, er I mean no |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 6:21 pm: | |
So the grant was for "the" University?
Which one?
And now only hard up students get it?
Something to do with equality here?
Do we have to work out how the grant became diverted to poor students? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 7:30 pm: | |
So the grant was for "the" University? yes
Which one? George Mason
And now only hard up students get it? not all of it, but most likely most of it
Something to do with equality here? nope
Do we have to work out how the grant became diverted to poor students? In a nutshell |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 8:13 pm: | |
A poor student broke into the safe and altered the trust document signed up by George Washington, so that it read as "Give every poor student $50 a week for recreational expenses" rather than, "give the teachers $50 a week to spend on educational materials"? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 10:13 pm: | |
lol, no, it's much more basic than that |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 9:13 am: | |
was there an administrative mistake?
a change due to the evolvement of language?
a change of heart?
a changing need?
a crime?
something else? |
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
| | Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 1:05 pm: | |
As I suppose George Mason University did not yet exist during the years of GW, did he set up the fund explicitly for a particular university? for the University of Virginia? for anything related to Mr. George Mason?
Did the money became diverted to the students after the death of GW? was GW's intention misinterpreted? or interpreted on purpose in a very wide sense?
Was the fund set up according to the will of GW?
Freemasonry relevant? did GW have in mind a "mason university"?
Is George Mason University one of these universities that are run by an association formed by its teachers and students? so, technically, students and teachers are the owners and therefore the legal recipients of the grant? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 5:42 pm: | |
was there an administrative mistake?
a change due to the evolvement of language?
a change of heart?
a changing need?
a crime?
something else? sorry, none of these
By Jens Weber (Sundowner) on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 01:05 pm:
As I suppose George Mason University did not yet exist during the years of GW, no, it did did he set up the fund explicitly for a particular university? yes, George Mason ;) for anything related to Mr. George Mason? Other than the school, no
Did the money became diverted to the students after the death of GW? no was GW's intention misinterpreted? no or interpreted on purpose in a very wide sense? no
Was the fund set up according to the will of GW? no, he gave the grant while he was alive...
Freemasonry relevant? no did GW have in mind a "mason university"? no
Is George Mason University one of these universities that are run by an association formed by its teachers and students? I don't actually know, but irrel so, technically, students and teachers are the owners and therefore the legal recipients of the grant? irrel |
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
| | Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 8:56 pm: | |
Did GW have the same institution in mind that is now known as The George Mason University? Was there any university in Virginia when GW was alive? if so: was it named after George Mason? the contemporary of GW and co-author of the US constitution? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 9:01 pm: | |
Did GW have the same institution in mind that is now known as The George Mason University? yes Was there any university in Virginia when GW was alive? there were probably at least a few if so: was it named after George Mason? the one in question here, yes the contemporary of GW and co-author of the US constitution? yup, now if a university had just been founded, you'd need cash and... |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 12:38 am: | |
The grant was allocated to the George Mason Uni. when G. Washington was still alive?
Was that grant a one off payment?
Or was it to continue for qa fixed time period?
Or was it to continue indefinitely?
Today, are we talking about the same grant and the same george Washington?
Or is there someone else called geprge Washington who is donating money?
Is it relevant who administers / controls the current grant money? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 1:31 am: | |
The grant was allocated to the George Mason Uni. when G. Washington was still alive? yes
Was that grant a one off payment? FA to payment, but yes it was a one time deal, however}
Or was it to continue for qa fixed time period?
Or was it to continue indefinitely?
Today, are we talking about the same grant and the same george Washington? yes
Or is there someone else called geprge Washington who is donating money? no
Is it relevant who administers / controls the current grant money? no, it's just the University |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 12:50 am: | |
FA to payment - was there no payment?
Is there a trick here somewhere?
Is it relevant when exactly, the grant commenced? |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 12:50 am: | |
FA to payment - was there no payment?
Is there a trick here somewhere?
Is it relevant when exactly, the grant commenced? |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 12:50 am: | |
deja vu |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 1:13 am: | |
FA to payment - was there no payment? correct
Is there a trick here somewhere? Well, the puzzle is meant to be tricky of course. ;)
Is it relevant when exactly, the grant commenced? yessish
By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 12:50 am:
FA to payment - was there no payment? correct
Is there a trick here somewhere? Well, the puzzle is meant to be tricky of course. ;)
Is it relevant when exactly, the grant commenced? yessish
By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 12:50 am:
deja vu Indeed. Me too! |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 1:23 am: | |
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Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 1:23 am: | |
A trick puzzle eh!
You cunning swine :-) |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 3:10 am: | |
Well, it is a puzzle, I grant you. And if you can land the answer, I'll be much impressed. |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 9:41 pm: | |
That was a thinly veiled hint, by the way. |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:28 pm: | |
Okay okay, so is real estate involved?
Fishing involved? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:33 pm: | |
Okay okay, so is real estate involved? YES, it was a land grant, now then, as woubit would say...
Fishing involved? no, other than you "fishing" for the solution ;) |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:46 pm: | |
When you say "land grant" do you mean that washington gave the University soem land?
Poor students still benefit from this grant?
Do they get free accomodation?
Do students earn rent from the land?
Do they earn from the land at all? |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:48 pm: | |
Do they get produce from the land? |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:51 pm: | |
When you say "land grant" do you mean that washington gave the University soem land? YES
Poor students still benefit from this grant? yes
Do they get free accomodation? no
Do students earn rent from the land? YES
Do they earn from the land at all? yes
By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:48 pm:
Do they get produce from the land? YES
Good job, sorry for the gentle hint (okay, rough shove) but this one needed to go to bed. ;) |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:53 pm: | |
***** SPOILER *****
Washington donated some land to George Mason University, and years later the fertile land is still worth money and is also farmed, helping to pay students tuitions and fees. Hence, they are "directly" paid by GW! |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 11:07 pm: | |
Sorry I was so slow on that one - it deserved better :-) |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 11:26 pm: | |
Hey, slowness I something I can relate to. |
Eliot (Eliot)
| | Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 3:31 pm: | |
*sigh* I live right next to GMU...the answer was staring me in the face... |
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