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Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 3:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the car in motion? no Was the man awake? yes
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 5:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he think he was driving somewhere?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he think he was driving somewhere? FA
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 12:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any video game in play (pun intended) here?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 4:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The car was not moving, correct? Was he parked? Had he pulled over for some reason? Was he facing the correct direction on/on the correct side of the road?

Had he been driving after he got drunk? Did he realize he shouldn't be driving?

Was there something else which happened that, had he been sober and driving, would've killed him? Some kind of acciedent? Or natural disaster? Man-made disaster?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 10:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any video game in play (pun intended) here? no


The car was not moving, correct? correct Was he parked? no Had he pulled over for some reason? no Was he facing the correct direction on/on the correct side of the road? probably. not important

Had he been driving after he got drunk? NO Did he realize he shouldn't be driving? FA

Was there something else which happened that, had he been sober and driving, would've killed him? no Some kind of acciedent? Or natural disaster? Actually, this was it. So explore from here Man-made disaster?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 11:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the disaster a hurricane? tornado? landslide? earthquake? volcano erupting? flood?

Had he crashed?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 1:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ferries relevant? Any sort of transport?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 2:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the disaster a hurricane? no tornado? no landslide? noish earthquake? no volcano erupting? no flood? no

Had he crashed? no

Ferries relevant? no Any sort of transport? no
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 3:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there an avalanche?

Was he trapped in the car?
Amol D. (Amol)
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 2:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is fire relevant ? Was he trying to prevent the alcohol catching fire ?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 7:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there an avalanche? yes

Was he trapped in the car? yes

Now you´re on the track... :-)

Is fire relevant? no Was he trying to prevent the alcohol catching fire ? no
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 7:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he consume the alcohol after being trapped?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 7:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the alcohol save him from being frozen/getting hypothermia?
Blood alcohol level relevant?

Speaking of pissed, I could see drinking a lot while trapped in a car leading to some ancillary problems...
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 12:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he consume the alcohol after being trapped? yes

Did the alcohol save him from being frozen/getting hypothermia? no
Blood alcohol level relevant? no

Speaking of pissed, I could see drinking a lot while trapped in a car leading to some ancillary problems... really? :)
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 10:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did his drunkness allow him to not go crazy trapped as he was?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 11:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did his drunkness allow him to not go crazy trapped as he was? no, that is not the point
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 1:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What most directly saved his life:
The act of drinking the alcohol?
The physiological effects of the alcohol?
The physiological effects of somethin else in the drinks?
The empty bottles, cans, corks, caps, etc. he had once he drank the alcohol?
Something else entirely?

Type of alcohol relevant?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 2:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By (Stuccosalt) on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 01:00 pm:

What most directly saved his life:

The act of drinking the alcohol? noish
The physiological effects of the alcohol? noish
The physiological effects of somethin else in the drinks? hmm... I have to say yope
The empty bottles, cans, corks, caps, etc. he had once he drank the alcohol? no
Something else entirely? In a way, yes... but might lead to false assumptions

Type of alcohol relevant? YES

Sorry - answering these questions properly were actually somewhat difficult
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 3:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So our hero was buried in an avalanche while driving and he saved his own life by consuming alcohol while trapped in his car, is that correct?

Going with that premise, did drinking the alcohol help rescuers to find him? Did it somehow notify someone that he was trapped? That he was alive?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 5:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So our hero was buried in an avalanche while driving and he saved his own life by consuming alcohol while trapped in his car, is that correct? correct

Going with that premise, did drinking the alcohol help rescuers to find him? no Did it somehow notify someone that he was trapped? no That he was alive? no
Peter Johnson (Astraz)
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 10:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Type of alcohol:-
Beer?, Lager?, Wine?, or Spirit?

Is the temperature in the car relevant? Cold? or Hot?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Type of alcohol:-
Beer? this one Lager?, Wine?, or Spirit? neither wine nor spirit

Is the temperature in the car relevant? no - not relevant Cold? or Hot?
Alizon (Alizon)
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 11:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he stay under the avalanche for a long time? If so, did the beer prevent him from dying of thirst/hunger?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 11:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he stay under the avalanche for a long time? for some time, probably. I do not know this exactly If so, did the beer prevent him from dying of thirst/hunger? no
Alizon (Alizon)
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 11:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had he drunk wine/spirit, would this have saved his life, too?

The fact that he was drunk and saved his life: Was it relevant physically/psychically to him, or to other people rescuing him, or something else?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 12:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had he drunk wine/spirit, would this have saved his life, too? no - probably not

The fact that he was drunk and saved his life: Was it relevant physically/psychically to him, or to other people rescuing him, or something else? Sorry, I did not understand this question. Please rephrase
Alizon (Alizon)
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 12:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the fact of drinking beer influence his physical or psychical functions and was this the reason why he survived?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 12:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

belching or urinating relevant?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 4:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Alizon (Alizon) on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 12:19 pm:

Did the fact of drinking beer influence his physical or psychical functions and was this the reason why he survived? Well, you can perhaps put it like that... see below for a simpler explanation:

(Stuccosalt) on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 12:53 pm:

belching or urinating relevant? YES
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 11:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he urinate on himself?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 1:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he urinate on himself? no
Damien Sullivan (Docd)
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 8:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any of these relevant about the urine:

Its volume?
Its temperature?
Its saltiness?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 11:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any of these relevant about the urine:

Its volume? yes
Its temperature? yes
Its saltiness? maybe also
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 6:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he drink his urine?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 7:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he write a message in the snow :O? Something like "Help, I'm trapped and out of beer!"?

Was he trying to melt the snow? Or some of the snow? Enough to esscape? Or open the door/window?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dref (Dref) on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 06:59 pm:

Did he drink his urine? no

Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 07:49 pm:

Did he write a message in the snow? Something like "Help, I'm trapped and out of beer!"? no :)

Was he trying to melt the snow? Yes Or some of the snow? Enough to esscape? Yes Or open the door/window?

This was about it - spoiler follows
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 10:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*************** SPOILER ***************

I read this in the newspaper recently. As I stated early in this puzzle, it is claimed to be a true story. And I believe every story I read in the papers, of course... well, here it goes:


Jiri was surprised by an avalanche when he was driving in his car along a road in the Carpathes, Slovakia. His car was stuck in the snow, and he was unable to open the doors. He was able to pull down the side windows a bit, and that was all. What to do now?

Jiri had been on his way to join a party, and had brought 60 cans of beer in his car. He sat down in the driver´s seat, opened a can of beer, and started to consider the situation. After a while, he felt a strong urge to pee. He discovered that the urine melted the snow away rather quickly. So Jiri started his partying on his own, and in the end made his way out of the avalanche...
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 1:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My blushes!
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 3:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sheesh, some people will do anything for an excuse to have another beer, but getting trapped in an avalanche! :O
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 3:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...I wonder if the police would buy that..."No, see, I had the tap installed in case I'm ever trapped in an avalanche.

No, really!"
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 2:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dref (Dref) on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 01:10 am:

My blushes! why this blushing, Fred? :)


Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 03:19 am:

...I wonder if the police would buy that..."No, see, I had the tap installed in case I'm ever trapped in an avalanche. No, really!"

From now on, I will always keep at least a six-pack in my car... I think it will bring me good luck. At least not less than a rabbit´s foot or a horseshoe.

Well, come to think of it, maybe the rabbit´s foot is the better choice anyway.... if I have to halt the car abruptly, it is probably better to be smacked in the head by a projectile out of rabbit´s foot than by either a six-pack or a horseshoe...

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