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Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 1:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a fly?

Any insect traps relevant here?

A container of liquid?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 2:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dref:

Was it a fly? no

Any insect traps relevant here? no

A container of liquid? yes
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 2:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the bug end up in the container? did it die? drown?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 2:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dref:

Did the bug end up in the container? no
did it die? no, this is a fatality-free puzzle 8-) drown? no
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Yesish" - so the bug wasn't physically hindered to walk on after the fifteen minutes had gone? it could, with its' mind set firmly on it, had walked on? but it didn't?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tommyp:

"Yesish" - so the bug wasn't physically hindered to walk on after the fifteen minutes had gone? The hindrence was both physical in a sense and mental it could, with its' mind set firmly on it, had walked on? yes but it didn't? no, it flew away at the end of the fifteen minutes
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 6:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Didn't it "get anywhere" during the fifteen minutes it walked? and that's why it flew away? or because of something else? was it scared? by you?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 8:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tommyp:

Didn't it "get anywhere" during the fifteen minutes it walked? No, it didn't. Why not? and that's why it flew away? or because of something else? was it scared? by you? I don't know why it flew away. Perhaps it was bored. Or perhaps it remembered some vitally important buggy little appointment it had J. Or it noticed that happy hour at the BugBar had started. Whatever the reason, at the end of about fifteen minutes, it departed.
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it actually moving forward but not making progress?
Was it walking in circles?
Was it walking on the spot (like watching someone on a treadmill)?

I lost track a little here - was the insect inside something?
Was it a ladybug?
wasp?
bee?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 8:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

were you not getting anywhere because you were watching the insect? (ie it was a distraction?

Where should you have been getting:
to a destination?
to a goal of achievment?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 9:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Beroean:

Was it actually moving forward but not making progress? yes
Was it walking in circles? YES!
Was it walking on the spot (like watching someone on a treadmill)? so no

I lost track a little here - was the insect inside something? no
Was it a ladybug? It might have been, but I think it was one of the Asian beetles that look like ladybugs, except that they're orange, not red. Ladybug is close enough, though.
wasp? no
bee? no

were you not getting anywhere because you were watching the insect? (ie it was a distraction?
yes
Where should you have been getting:
to a destination? no
to a goal of achievment? more this, but not exactly
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 9:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So there was a ladybug (or ladybird in UK speak) type insect walking around in circles and you were watched in fascination whilst getting nothin done?

Is there an evident reason why it was walking in circles?

Do we need to discover more about the situation?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Beroean:

So there was a ladybug (or ladybird in UK speak) type insect walking around in circles and you were watched in fascination whilst getting nothin done?

That's the situation exactly.

Is there an evident reason why it was walking in circles? yes

Do we need to discover more about the situation? Why it was walking in circles is all. That, after all, is why I was so fascinated/distracted by it.
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wa sit walking on something artificial / manmade?
Was it walking on you?
Was it following a trail of something?
A visible pattern?
A scent?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Beroean:

Was it walking on something artificial / manmade? yes
Was it walking on you? no
Was it following a trail of something? I don't think so, no
A visible pattern? no
A scent? This MAY have had something to do with it, but I can't be certain. I don't really think so, though.
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it walking in a groove that determined the circular course?

Was the manmade thing a household/everyday object?

Were you indoors / outdoors?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Beroean:

Was it walking in a groove that determined the circular course? quite the contrary...

Was the manmade thing a household/everyday object? yes

Were you indoors yes / outdoors? no
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it walking on the edge of something circular?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tommyp:

Was it walking on the edge of something circular? YES!
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 11:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

On the edge of a glass?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 11:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tommyp:

On the edge of a glass? no, but OTRT
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 7:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A plate? a bottle? a can?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 12:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If not any of Tommy's suggestions was it something of a similar size / larger / smaller?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 1:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A jar?
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 5:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...maybe a door that was ajar...?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 5:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tommy:
A plate? no a bottle? no a can? this one, YES

Simon:
If not any of Tommy's suggestions was it something of a similar size / larger / smaller? so irrelevant

Sam
A jar? and no.

And there's really nothing left to find out, so here's the

********************SPOILER***********************

One afternoon last autumn, I was at my computer, working on an article that wasn't going terribly well, a ladybug (or one of the little orange Asian Beetles that look like ladybugs,) landed on the rim of an empty soft-drink can next to my monitor. He proceeded to start walking around it.

Between the very determined way ladybugs have of walking, the fact that he simply kept doing laps around and around the edge, and the fact that I was both bored and frustrated, I found it quite fascinating, and more than a little amusing. Sometimes he was right up on the very top edge, sometimes he moved down to the outside or inside of the rim, and occasionally, he turned around and went back the other direction for a few turns, but mostly he just walked and walked and didn't get anywhere. Since I was watching him and chuckling, I didn't get anywhere on my writing, either, until he flew away.


And thanks to all of you for taking this one on.
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 6:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A nice puzzle. ;)
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 6:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Seemed we were going around in circles there for a while...

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