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Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 7:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The vet told her that her pet was not sick.
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

vet = veterinarian? veteran (as of a war)?
'her' = human? adult? "normal" by most definitions?
'her pet' = an animal? living? if not, recently living?

did she take her pet to the vet to find out what was wrong with it?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 10:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Stucco,

vet = veterinarian? veteran (as of a war)?
YES, NO

'her' = human? adult? "normal" by most definitions?
YES, YES, YES

'her pet' = an animal? living? if not, recently living?
YES, YES

did she take her pet to the vet to find out what was wrong with it?
YES

PAUL
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 11:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The indication that her pet was sick, was it behavior? Appearance? Both? Animal have some obvious injury?

Her pet, the type of animal relevant?
Cat?
dog?
pig?
chicken?
cow?
frog?
spider?
bird?
hamster?
rat?
rabbit?
turtle?
fish?
ferret?
snake?
Lizard?
crab?
elephant?
hippo?
lion?
tiger?
penguin?
polar bear?
fox?
owl?
monkey?
buffalo?
antelope?
zebra?
horse?
giraffe?
lynx?
goose?
duck?
brown bear?
panda?
koala?
coyote?
wolf?
shark?
whale?
octopus?
eel?
clam?
starfish?
rhino?
cougar?
leopard?
panther?
gorilla?
seal?
walrus?
platypus?
goat?
sheep?
deer?
bobcat?
snail?
rock?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 9:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chuck

The indication that her pet was sick, was it behavior? Appearance? Both?
YES, NO, NO

Animal have some obvious injury?
NOT INJURY

Her pet, the type of animal relevant?
YES

Cat?
dog?
pig?
chicken?
cow?
frog?
spider?
bird?
hamster?
rat?
rabbit?
turtle?
fish?
ferret?
snake?
Lizard?
crab?
elephant?
hippo?
lion?
tiger?
penguin?
polar bear?
fox?
owl?
monkey?
buffalo?
antelope?
zebra?
horse?
giraffe?
lynx?
goose?
duck?
brown bear?
panda?
koala?
coyote?
wolf?
shark?
whale?
octopus?
eel?
clam?
starfish?
rhino?
cougar?
leopard?
panther?
gorilla?
seal?
walrus?
platypus?
goat?
sheep?
deer?
bobcat?
snail?
rock?

BIRD
(BUT AN INTERESTING LIST - WHO HAS A WALRUS, STARFISH OR PLATYPUS AS A PET?)
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 8:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe the walrus was the carpenter's pet?
So, was it a bird that was kept in a cage?
Was its abnormal behaviour associated with its eating?
Its emanation of sounds (or lack thereof)?
Its moving about (or lack thereof)?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 1:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Torgeir,

Maybe the walrus was the carpenter's pet?
YES OR JOHN LENNON'S

So, was it a bird that was kept in a cage?
YES

Was its abnormal behaviour associated with its eating?
NO

Its emanation of sounds (or lack thereof)?
YES

Its moving about (or lack thereof)?
NO

REGARDS
PAUL
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 1:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a talking bird? If so, is what it said relevant?
Is there some quality of the noises it made that sounded 'off' to her -- i.e. "My bird sounds hoarse"
(...which actually is far better than your horse sounding bird.)
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 5:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

WHO HAS A WALRUS, STARFISH OR PLATYPUS AS A PET?

I had a duck-billed platypus when I was up at Trinity,
With whom I soon discovered a remarkable affinity.
He used to live in lodgings with myself and Arthur Purvis,
And we all went up together for the Diplomatic Service.
I had a certain confidence, I own, in his ability -
He mastered all the subjects with remarkable facility;
And Purvis, though more dubious, agreed that he was clever,
But no one else imagined he had any chance whatever.

I failed to pass the interview. The Board, with wry grimaces,
Took exception to my boots and then objected to my braces,
And Purvis too was failed by an intolerant examiner
Who said he had his doubts as to his sock-suspenders' stamina.
Our summary rejection, though we took it with urbanity,
Was naturally wounding in some measure to our vanity.

The bitterness of failure was considerably mollified,
However, by the ease with which our platypus had qualified.
The wisdom of the choice, it soon appeared, was undeniable -
There never was a diplomat more thoroughly reliable.
The creature never acted with undue precipitation,
But gave to every question his mature consideration.
He never made rash statements his enemies might hold him to -
He never stated anything, for no one ever told him to;
And soon he was appointed, so correct was his behaviour,
Our Minister (without Portfolio) to Trans-Moravia.

My friend was loved and honoured from the Andes to Estonia.
He soon achieved a pact between Peru and Patagonia,
He never vexed the Russians nor offended the Romanians,
He pacified the Letts and yet appeased the Lithuanians,
Won approval from his masters down in Downing Street so wholly,
He was soon to be rewarded with the grant of a Portfolio...
When, on the Anniversary of Greek Emancipation,
Alas! He laid an egg in the Bulgarian Legation.

This untoward occurrence caused unheard-of repercussions,
Giving rise to epidemics of sword-clanking in the Prussians,
The Poles began to threaten, and the Finns began to flap at him,
Directing all the blame for this unfortunate mishap at him;
The Swedes withdrew entirely from the Anglo-Saxon dailies
The right of photographing the Aurora Borealis,
And, all efforts at rapprochement in the meantime proving barren,
The Japanese (in self-defence) annexed the Isle of Arran.

My platypus, once thought to be more cautious and more tentative
Than any other living diplomatic representative,
Was now an awful warning to all diplomatic students
Of the risks attached to negligence, the perils of imprudence.
Beset and persecuted by the forces of reaction,
He reaped the consequences of his ill-considered action,
And, branded in the Honours List as "Platypus, Dame Vera",
Retired - a lonely figure - to lay eggs at Bordighera.


Patrick Barrington
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 6:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm - you don't think it odd to have a pet rock :)

Was he telling clean jokes rather than sick ones?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 6:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the bird more quiet than usual?
More noisy than usual?
Little change in noise level, but rather a change in noise quality?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 9:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Stucco, Lynne Torgeir,

Is this a talking bird? If so, is what it said relevant?
NO, NO

Is there some quality of the noises it made that sounded 'off' to her -- i.e. "My bird sounds hoarse"
YES

Was he telling clean jokes rather than sick ones?
NO

Was the bird more quiet than usual?
More noisy than usual?
NO, NO

Little change in noise level, but rather a change in noise quality?
YES

PAUL
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 10:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it important to find out more about the change in noise quality?
Or would it be better to try to find the cause of the change?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 11:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Torgeir,

Is it important to find out more about the change in noise quality?
YES

Or would it be better to try to find the cause of the change?
YES

regards
Paul
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 12:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a songbird? Did its voice sound higher or lower in pitch than normal? Louder or quieter? Rougher? Was it singing a different song?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 8:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Stucco,

Was it a songbird? Did its voice sound higher or lower in pitch than normal? Louder or quieter?
NO to THOSE

Rougher? Was it singing a different song?
YES, NO
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 12:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, at least it's not the classic UL about the woman on holiday who adopts a stray doggie only to find, when taking it to the vet after returning home, that it is, in fact, a rat...

Was the bird the particular breed she thought it was? Was the change in it's voice due to normal birdie maturation (for its species)? Had it swallowed something? Was it the same bird as before the voice change?

Was it a typical pet breed of bird?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 8:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the bird actually sound differently?
Or was its owners hearing to blame?
Had something changed within the bird to cause the difference?
Was the sound changed between its leaving the bird and its entering the lady's ears?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 11:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tim,

Was the bird the particular breed she thought it was?
YES

Was the change in it's voice due to normal birdie maturation (for its species)? Had it swallowed something?
NO, NO

Was it the same bird as before the voice change?
YES

Was it a typical pet breed of bird?
YES
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 11:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

TORGEIR,

Did the bird actually sound differently?
DIFFICULT TO ANSWER - DIFFERENT TO WHAT? I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES.

Or was its owners hearing to blame?
NO

Had something changed within the bird to cause the difference?
WHAT DIFFERENCE? MAYBE YES.

Was the sound changed between its leaving the bird and its entering the lady's ears?
NO
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 11:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it important what breed the bird was?
Did the bird eat/drink something that caused the voice quality to change?
Is some other bird? animal? human? responsible directly/ indirectly for the change?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 6:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I meant "Did the bird sound differently at the time we enter the puzzle, as compared to what it used to sound like in the past?"
Would a budgie fill the role of the bird adequately?
Was the way it sounded at the time of the puzzle more? equally? less? normal for such a bird, compared to the way it used to sound in the past?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 7:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Arjun,

Is it important what breed the bird was?
A LITTLE - YES

Did the bird eat/drink something that caused the voice quality to change?
NO

Is some other bird? animal? human? responsible directly/ indirectly for the change?
INDIRECTLY YES
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 7:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

TORGEIR,

I meant "Did the bird sound differently at the time we enter the puzzle, as compared to what it used to sound like in the past?"
IN THE RECENT PAST - NO
IN THE DISTANT PAST - YES

Would a budgie fill the role of the bird adequately?
NO

Was the way it sounded at the time of the puzzle more? equally? less? normal for such a bird, compared to the way it used to sound in the past?
LESS - IT SOUNDED UNUSUAL
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 2:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

On a tree by a river a little tom-tit
Sang "Willow, titwillow, titwillow!"
And I said to him, "Dicky-bird, why do you sit
Singing 'Willow, titwillow, titwillow'?"
"Is it weakness of intellect, birdie?" I cried,
"Or a rather tough worm in your little inside?"
With a shake of his poor little head, he replied,
"Oh, willow, titwillow, titwillow!"

Sir William Schwenk Gilbert



Something farm-ish like a duck? Goose? Chicken?

Cockatoo/parrot-type bird? Lovebird? Parakeet?

Was its voice "normal" originally (i. e. when she acquired it)?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 5:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tim,

Something farm-ish like a duck? Goose? Chicken?
NO

Cockatoo/parrot-type bird? Lovebird? Parakeet?
YES - IT WAS A PARROT

Was its voice "normal" originally (i. e. when she acquired it)?
VERY SOON AFTER SHE ACQUIRED IT SHE NOTICED
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 6:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the person who sold the bird cheat her (the owner)?
Was the owner disappointed? If so, was this because the bird's voice was different when she intended to buy it?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 8:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So - is the bird imitating someone?
And that someone is sick?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 11:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Arjun,

Did the person who sold the bird cheat her (the owner)?
NO

Was the owner disappointed? If so, was this because the bird's voice was different when she intended to buy it?
NO
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 11:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Torgeir,

So - is the bird imitating someone?
And that someone is sick?

Well done

***** SPOILER *****

In this true story the woman bought a parrot from a pet shop. When she got it home it developed a bad cough. She took it to the vet who said there was nothing wrong with it. She then investigated its history and found that the parrot had previously been the pet in an old people's home and it had learnt to copy the heavy coughs of some of the inmates.

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