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tricia harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Unseasonably warm for the time of year, eh Marcus?" "Couldn't agree more, Cassius."
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are Marcus and Cassius humans? Ancient Romans?
Location relevant? Is the weather actually warmer than it usually is in this place and time?
tricia harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 12:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are Marcus and Cassius humans? Yes, but imaginary, just illustrating the point.Ancient Romans? Yes
Location relevant? Yes Is the weather actually warmer than it usually is in this place and time? Yesish - OTRT
Brian Pamandanan (Sciguy47)
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 3:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pompeii?
tricia harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 2:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pompeii? No - not that warm!
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had they forgotten to take their coats off?
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a fire nearby? Some source of heat other than the sun? Are our heroes in danger of any sort?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 8:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are our hero's outside? Fictitious human adult males?

Season relevant?
Weather relevant?
Additional heat provided by some fictitious creature? A phoenix?
The puzzle take place during a Greek myth?
Gods relevant?
mythological characters present? relevant?
mythological beasts present? relevant?
tricia harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had they forgotten to take their coats off? No. I don't think Ancient Romans wore coats.


By Eliot (Eliot) on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 07:50 pm:


Is there a fire nearby? No Some source of heat other than the sun? No Are our heroes in danger of any sort? Not at all

By Chuck Raby (Wildcard) on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 08:11 pm:


Are our hero's outside? Probably but not really relevant Fictitious human adult males? Totally, I'm afraid!

Season relevant? Yesish
Weather relevant? Yesish
Additional heat provided by some fictitious creature? A phoenix?
The puzzle take place during a Greek myth?
Gods relevant?
mythological characters present? relevant?
mythological beasts present? relevant? None of these
tricia harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 10:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I realise I may have been a little hasty when I answered Brian's question about Pompeii with "No". In actual fact, Pompeii would have been affected by the event in the puzzle, as it took place prior to 79AD. Sorry, Sciguy47, :(.
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there an actual weather anomally occuring? A historical one?
Has the ground somehow become warmer? The general atmosphere? The breeze? The sun?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 1:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any volcanoes relevant? Etna?
tricia harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 12:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Eliot (Eliot) on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 12:40 pm:


Is there an actual weather anomally occuring? No. The weather itself remained normal. A historical one? Yes. The event is historical.
Has the ground somehow become warmer? The general atmosphere? \The breeze? The sun? No to all these.

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 01:34 pm:


Any volcanoes relevant? Etna? No to both
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 12:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has some event occurred that has affected the weather?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 2:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So is it likely that Cassius and Marcus would have had this convosation?
Or is this more metaphorical, just stating that they are Roman and it's hot - weather wise or no?

(although if they did it'd be more like:
"Intepstiuus percalesco tempestuas et annus, Marcus?" "Ego concordo, Cassius" :))
tricia harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 5:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 12:45 am:


Has some event occurred that has affected the weather? An event certainly occurred.
Although the weather itself did not change, it is probably true to say that the event changed Josephus Publicus' perception of it.


By Benjamin Moore (Zenith) on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 02:58 am:


So is it likely that Cassius and Marcus would have had this convosation? Quite possibly, had they been real Romans!
Or is this more metaphorical, just stating that they are Roman and it's hot - weather wise or no? See previous answer.

(although if they did it'd be more like:
"Intepstiuus percalesco tempestuas et annus, Marcus?" "Ego concordo, Cassius" ) Et tu, Zenithus! Yes I know "Zenith" isn't Latin but it's the best I could come up with!
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 5:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did humans do something that would make it seem warmer? Was some sort of heating system relevant?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 9:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

e-mailed
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 12:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fire ?
Nero ?
tricia harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Eliot (Eliot) on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 05:08 pm:


Did humans do something that would make it seem warmer? There was human involvement.... Explore. Was some sort of heating system relevant? No.

By Kapil Kapur (Dinkie) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 12:00 pm:


Fire ? No
Nero ? Not this time!
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 6:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the environment in anyway relevant? their clothing?

Season: Winter? Summer? Autumn? Spring?

Warmth = feeling warm on skins' surface? warm in personality? feeling warm towards someone?
Roman Baths relevant?
tricia harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 06:30 pm:


Is the environment in anyway relevant? No their clothing? No

Season: Winter? Summer? Autumn? Spring? All these, but could be misleading.

Warmth = feeling warm on skins' surface? this one warm in personality? feeling warm towards someone?
Roman Baths relevant? No
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there something external to them making them feel warmer? something from inside them? such as food? drink?
tricia harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 09:18 pm:


Was there something external to them making them feel warmer? Yes but ..... something from inside them? such as food? drink? No to all these
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The additional warmth...original source is the sun? Additional heat being somehow channeled to our heroes?
Additional heat from the earth? Some kind of stellar phenominon relevant?
Solar flare going on?
Meteor involved?
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Chuck Raby (Wildcard) on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 06:22 pm:


The additional warmth...original source is the sun? Yes Additional heat being somehow channeled to our heroes? No
Additional heat from the earth? Some kind of stellar phenominon relevant?
Solar flare going on?
Meteor involved? None of these
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So humans somehow used the heat from the sun to make it warmer than it would be otherwise?
Magnifying glass invloved?
Is something made to absorb more heat than normal? Something painted black?
The people who somehow created additional heat using the sun, are they Greek? relevant?
Are these people assoicated somehow that is relevant? Did the people who increased the heat somehow remove a cooling device?
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 11:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Chuck Raby (Wildcard) on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:59 pm:


So humans somehow used the heat from the sun to make it warmer than it would be otherwise? No
Magnifying glass invloved?
Is something made to absorb more heat than normal? Something painted black?
The people who somehow created additional heat using the sun, are they Greek? relevant?
Are these people assoicated somehow that is relevant? Did the people who increased the heat somehow remove a cooling device? Interesting line of questions but all F/A I'm afraid. :)
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 11:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HINT: This was a single real historical event devised by humans. The heat from the sun was not changed per se. The event itself is what is important here.
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 3:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the actual heat reaching these Romans the same it has always been? Has their perception of the heat changed? has an accelerated greenhouse effect occured due to a Volcano eruption nearby?
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 2:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Benjamin Moore (Zenith) on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 03:14 am:


Is the actual heat reaching these Romans the same it has always been? Yes Has their perception of the heat changed? Yesish but could be misleading has an accelerated greenhouse effect occured due to a Volcano eruption nearby? No and no volcanoes were involved
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 10:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did somebody invent something relevant? the barometer? a thermomter? something along these lines?
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 10:02 pm:


Did somebody invent something relevant? Yesish. More of a refinement of something that already existed than an invention. the barometer? no a thermomter? no something along these lines? not really
Ian (Image)
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The calander?
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 10:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ian (Image) on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 09:26 pm:


The calander? PRECISELY! :)

I think I'd better post a ......

*****SPOILER******
46BC was a long year, a very long year - it lasted 445 days. The reason for this was that Julius Caesar - yes, that one - decided to commission a new calendar. The old one, based on lunar months, was hopelessly out of sync with the seasons, the Spring Equinox then arriving around the middle of May, instead of mid-March, hence the clue. In order to get the seasons back into kilter, an extra 80 days were calculated to be needed, 23 added to February and two months added between November and December. The year, unsurprisingly, became known as the Year of Confusion.

Thanks to everyone who contributed and well done to Ian who finally cracked it! :)
Quintus Marcius (Philippus)
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 12:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This was a good subject for a lateral puzzle, and a well-phrased puzzle statement. I particularly liked the clue to Caesar in using the names of the most famous of his assassins.
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 1:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Quintus Marcius (Philippus) on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 12:08 am:


This was a good subject for a lateral puzzle, and a well-phrased puzzle statement. I particularly liked the clue to Caesar in using the names of the most famous of his assassins. Thanks, Philippus. :) I'm glad someone noticed the names. I considered "Brutus" but decided it was far too obvious! Glad you enjoyed the puzzle.
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 9:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Actually, the names are sort of what led me to the calendar... I thought of Cæsar, and we'd just started the play in my English class, so our teacher had told us of the "great deads" of Julius Cæsar, so....:)
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 10:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ian, I have posted a message for you in the Chatroom if you would like to read it. Trixie

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