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Ahmer Ali (Ahmer)
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 4:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A woman purchased a very common item for less than a dollar. Later it ended up costing her over $ 20,000 when a man found out she had done so. Explain.
Annelies Horckmans (Annls)
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 7:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she purchase something illegal?

Did she had to pay a fine of 20,000?

the common item: do you normally find it
in the bathroom?
in the kitchen?
in the living room?
only women buy it or do men too?

did it cost her so much money because she bought it? or because of the way she used it?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 9:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the man her husband? Employer? Government employee?
Did she break the law in buying the thing?
Did her buing the thing imply that she would be, or had been, breaking the law?
Ahmer Ali (Ahmer)
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Annis:

Did she purchase something illegal? \b(No}

Did she had to pay a fine of 20,000? Sort of...

the common item: do you normally find it
in the bathroom?
in the kitchen?
in the living room? None of the above

only women buy it or do men too? Both

did it cost her so much money because she bought it? or because of the way she used it? Both, in a sense...explore this.

ABC:

Was the man her husband? Employer? Neither
Government employee? Yes
Did she break the law in buying the thing? Strictly speaking, no.
Did her buing the thing imply that she would be, or had been, breaking the law? Yes
Christopher Anderson (Cazo97)
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 5:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did martha stewart do this also?

Is it common stock?
Ahmer Ali (Ahmer)
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 7:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did martha stewart do this also? Not that I'm aware of.

Is it common stock? No.
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 6:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, would be breaking the law?
Had been breaking the law?
Is the item something that I - living in a reasonably large city - could probably go out and legally buy in a nearby shop?
Annelies Horckmans (Annls)
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 8:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did it involve fraude?

Did she try to collect ensurance money?

Did she buy matches?

Did she set her place or something else on fire?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 9:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the $20,000 her court expenses, relating to an arrest caused by the purchase of the item?
Ahmer Ali (Ahmer)
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Abc:

So, would be breaking the law? Yes
Had been breaking the law? No
Is the item something that I - living in a reasonably large city - could probably go out and legally buy in a nearby shop? Yes

Annls:

Did it involve fraude? Did she try to collect ensurance money? Did she buy matches?
Did she set her place or something else on fire?

None of the above

Rabrab:

Was the $20,000 her court expenses, relating to an arrest caused by the purchase of the item? No...but on the right track
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 2:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

were any other items involved ?
if so were these items bought or stolen ?
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 2:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the man a judge ?
Ahmer Ali (Ahmer)
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 11:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

were any other items involved ?
if so were these items bought or stolen ?
No other relevant items involved

was the man a judge ? Yes indeed.
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 6:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What kind of shop would one be likely to buy it?
Hardware store?
Clothes shop?
Technical hobby shop?
Supermarket?
Chemists?
Flower shop?
Bookstore?
Shoe shop?
Petrol station / garage?
Auto dealer?
Music shop?
Video rental shop?
Off-licence?
Computer store?
Jeweller's?
Travelling agency?
Bakery?
Furniture shop?
Office stationery shop?

Am I likely to have bought this kind of thing at least once in my life?
Or perhaps more than once?
Do people buying this kind of thing usually come under suspicion of being criminals in spe?
Is there something special about her?
That you can see first time you meet her?
Annelies (Annls)
Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she try to sell the item to a third party?

Was it an eatable item?

Was is something you usually carry with you? keep in your car? in your home?

Is it something you actually use, or something that you place somewhere?
Ahmer Ali (Ahmer)
Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ABC:

What kind of shop would one be likely to buy it?
Supermarket? Bookstore? Petrol station / garage? Any of these, unlikely any of the others

Am I likely to have bought this kind of thing at least once in my life? Definitely
Or perhaps more than once? Yes.
Do people buying this kind of thing usually come under suspicion of being criminals in spe? No.
Is there something special about her? Specify, please
That you can see first time you meet her? No. Nothing physical.

Annls:

Did she try to sell the item to a third party? No.

Was it an eatable item? No.

Was is something you usually carry with you? keep in your car? No
in your home? Yes, I suppose.

Is it something you actually use, or something that you place somewhere? It is used, in a sense
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 1:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did she buy a newspaper? magazine? map? other printed matter?
Ahmer Ali (Ahmer)
Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 3:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did she buy a newspaper? magazine? map? other printed matter? Yes! Newspaper.
Annelies (Annls)
Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 8:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

She wasn't allowed to buy a newspaper?

Because she wasn't allowed to read what is in it?

Was she in an unusual situation? Was she in a healthy state of mind? Was she in a jury?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 9:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was she under house arrest? And the newspaper proved that she'd left her home?

Was the $20,000 bail that she forfeited?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

emailed
Ahmer Ali (Ahmer)
Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 5:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Annls:

She wasn't allowed to buy a newspaper? Essentially yes

Because she wasn't allowed to read what is in it? Yes

Was she in an unusual situation? Was she in a healthy state of mind? No and yes

Was she in a jury? Yes!

Rabrab:

Was she under house arrest? And the newspaper proved that she'd left her home? Neither

Was the $20,000 bail that she forfeited? No.

Zenith:

emailed Haven't seen it yet...
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 6:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

She was in a jury under sequester, and by purchasing the paper she proved she violated the terms of the sequestering...?
Annelies (Annls)
Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 7:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In a jury you have to decide without any influences outside the court whether the accused is guilty or not, and because you bought the newspaper you 'got in the touch with the real world and their thoughts of the case' therefor you are influenced and that's forbidden as a member of the jury, that's way she had to pay $20,000?
Ahmer Ali (Ahmer)
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 1:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Both Lzeiters and Annls got it!

In July, Lindy Heaster of Woodbridge, Va., was assessed $21,290 for having bought a newspaper. (She was a juror, ordered by the judge in a murder trial to avoid all media coverage. The judge ultimately declared a mistrial over Heaster's gaffe, voiding the conviction of Gerardo Lara and forcing the prosecutor to start all over.)

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