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Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 11:18 pm: |      |
Ona'a new job led to an "damned if you do, damned if you don't" etiquette problem, making it almost inevitable she would offend someone. How come? |
John Morahan (Wunderland)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 11:42 pm: |      |
Would she offend a different person depending on what she did? or would she offend one particular person no matter what she did? Did the nature of the job itself lead to this situation? the fact that it was a new job? |
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:40 pm: |      |
y John Morahan (Wunderland) on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 11:42 pm: Would she offend a different person depending on what she did? yes or would she offend one particular person no matter what she did? no Did the nature of the job itself lead to this situation? yes the fact that it was a new job? no |
John Morahan (Wunderland)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:44 pm: |      |
Was it part of her job to do something offensive? Is one of the people who might be offended her boss? who would be offended if she didn't do her offensive job? |
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:08 pm: |      |
Is she working in public service? The people to be offended customers? Is she a waitress? banker? lawyer? construction worker? she a letter carrier? |
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 9:15 pm: |      |
By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 06:44 pm: Was it part of her job to do something offensive? not intentionally Is one of the people who might be offended her boss? no who would be offended if she didn't do her offensive job? no By Chuck Raby (Wildcard) on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 07:08 pm: Is she working in public service? yes The people to be offended customers? yes Is she a waitress? no banker? no lawyer? no construction worker? no she a letter carrier? no |
Lynne (Lynne)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 9:29 pm: |      |
Did she deal with customer complaints? |
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:03 pm: |      |
By Lynne (Lynne) on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 09:29 pm: Did she deal with customer complaints? no |
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:03 pm: |      |
she work in real estate? retail sales? if so, relevant what she sells? librarian? pumping petrol? clothing industry? delivery of some kind? furniture sales? does she work in a beauty shop? manicurist? massage thearapist? |
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:52 pm: |      |
By Chuck Raby (Wildcard) on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:03 pm: she work in real estate? no retail sales?yesish if so, relevant what she sells?yesish librarian? no pumping petrol? no clothing industry? possibly delivery of some kind?no furniture sales? no does she work in a beauty shop? possibly manicurist?no massage thearapist? no |
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:54 pm: |      |
she work in a department store? she selling perfume? cosmetics? jewelry? massage parlor? is she a model of some kind? |
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 11:26 pm: |      |
By Chuck Raby (Wildcard) on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:54 pm: she work in a deparment store? possibly she selling perfume? possiblyish cosmetics? ditto jewelry? ditto massage parlor? no is she a model of some kind? no |
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 11:27 pm: |      |
By Chuck Raby (Wildcard) on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 10:54 pm: she work in a deparment store? possibly she selling perfume? possiblyish cosmetics? ditto jewelry? ditto massage parlor? no is she a model of some kind? no |
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 2:48 pm: |      |
does she sell mainly to women? men? both? if she offends someone will she seem to be saying something negative about their appearance? their financial situation? their taste? are discounts relevant? special sales? dress sizes? |
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 8:25 pm: |      |
By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 02:48 pm: does she sell mainly to women? mno men? no both? yes if she offends someone will she seem to be saying something negative about their appearance?yope their financial situation? yope their taste? no are discounts relevant? yesspecial sales? no dress sizes? no |
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 8:39 pm: |      |
so - the thing she would, or wouldn't do that might offend people: is it to offer a discount? to tell someone that a discount is available? to ask someone if they qualify for a discount? is the customer's age relevant? does she have to decide whether to ask the person if they are a particular age because if they are then they qualify for a discount? for instance: if those over 65 years are eligible for a discount she would have to judge by the look of someone if they are in that category. Then, if they aren't she will have seemed to say that they look older than they are. But if she does not mention it they will potentially miss out on a discount. (Or it could be an age at the other end of the spectrum, or it could be an entitlement based on income or receipt of benefits (welfare?) Anything like this? |
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 9:09 pm: |      |
By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 08:39 pm: so - the thing she would, or wouldn't do that might offend people: is it to offer a discount? to tell someone that a discount is available? to ask someone if they qualify for a discount? is the customer's age relevant? does she have to decide whether to ask the person if they are a particular age because if they are then they qualify for a discount? for instance: if those over 65 years are eligible for a discount she would have to judge by the look of someone if they are in that category. Then, if they aren't she will have seemed to say that they look older than they are. But if she does not mention it they will potentially miss out on a discount. (Or it could be an age at the other end of the spectrum, or it could be an entitlement based on income or receipt of benefits (welfare?) Anything like this?That's it EXACTLY!!! *** SPOILER************* CLEVER HANNAH HAS IT EXACTLY AGAIN!! SEE ABOVE. I'M BEGUINNING TO FEEL RATHER SIMPLE-MINDED   < BUT PLEASE CHECK OUT MY LATESt ATTEMPT |
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 10:08 pm: |      |
sorry |
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 10:26 pm: |      |
You ( & your patients!!)should be GLAD you're so clever. N.B. Did you ever read the monster-paper I sent you? Clever comments would be appreciated |
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 11:09 pm: |      |
I did read it - very interesting indeed. I was, as usual, pretty well convinced by your arguments. Does the research take you a long time? |
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
| | Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 10:50 pm: |      |
Yes, Hannah, it takes FOREVER   (even though I have a research assistant). |