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Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 7:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this in a zoo or wildlife park of some sort or in someone's private garden? this one Relevant where? or who only that this puzzle concerns the USA
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 11:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the owner of the garden an eccentric?
Is he the manufacturer of the plastic flamingos?
Is he a sort of Del Boy and buy them in a "job lot" and now can't get rid of them?
Did he used to have real flamingos but received complaints from his neighbours about the smell, so sold them and replaced them with plastic ones?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 1:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the owner of the garden an eccentric? FA
Is he the manufacturer of the plastic flamingos? FA
Is he a sort of Del Boy and buy them in a "job lot" and now can't get rid of them? FA
Did he used to have real flamingos but received complaints from his neighbours about the smell, so sold them and replaced them with plastic ones? FA
Tony (E20)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 4:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Of all the plastic flamingos in the US, approximately what percentage are under consideration for the purposes of this puzzle: 100%? 75%? 50%? 25%? 10%? 1%? less than 1%?

Are these plastic flamingos located in a particular section of the US? Would it help to identify their location more closely?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 4:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This "Private Lawn": Residential Property?
If so, are the flamingos in the front of the house or behind it?
Did the owner / resident of the property put them there?
Is this question (puzzle decleration) the consensus of:
Neighbours?
The Owner of the property?
The Reidents of the property?
The Local City Council?
Tourists?
Local Parish?
Yourself?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 4:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Of all the plastic flamingos in the US, yesapproximately what percentage are under consideration for the purposes of this puzzle: 100%? this one 75%? 50%? 25%? 10%? 1%? less than 1%?

Are these plastic flamingos located in a particular section of the US? all over Would it help to identify their location more closely? no

By Benjamin Moore (Zenith) on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 04:21 pm:


This "Private Lawn": Residential Property?
If so, are the flamingos in the front of the house or behind it? there are many more private lawns than just the one
Did the owner / resident of the property put them there? owners of all these properties would have put them there but irrel
Is this question (puzzle decleration) the consensus of:
Neighbours?
The Owner of the property?
The Reidents of the property?
The Local City Council?
Tourists?
Local Parish?
Yourself? myself and probably several others but irrelevant really
Tony (E20)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 6:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"But at least all the plastic flamingos in the US don't smell."

Do we need to discover something else that they do? or something else that they don't do?

Do we need to identify something else that does smell? ... to which the flamingos are being compared?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 7:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But at least all the plastic flamingos in the US don't smell." indeed

Do we need to discover something else that they do? or something else that they don't do? neither

Do we need to identify something else that does smell? ... to which the flamingos are being compared? yes but a little more than that too
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 8:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they there to prevent a smelly creature from making its home nearby - skunks maybe? (No idea why a skunk should be scared of a plastic flamingo, though.)
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 8:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they there to prevent a smelly creature from making its home nearby - skunks maybe? no (No idea why a skunk should be scared of a plastic flamingo, though.) the mind boggles!
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 9:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The something that does smell: is it something that is also found on lawns in the US?

Is it impossible to have the thing that does smell and plastic lawn flamingoes in the same lawn? Rare? Unlikely? Likely? Probable? Certain?

The things that do smell:

Smell = give off an odor or scent?
Smell = is able to exercise a sense of smell?
Smell = is distasteful in a metaphorical way?

Tangible, other than the smell? Non-tangible other than the smell?
Living? non-living?
If living: plant? animal? human?
If non-living: stone? plastic? fabric? concrete? metal? rubber? liquid?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 9:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The something that does smell: is it something that is also found on lawns in the US? no

Is it impossible to have the thing that does smell and plastic lawn flamingoes in the same lawn? no Rare? Unlikely? highly unlikely Likely? Probable? Certain?

The things that do smell:

Smell = give off an odor or scent? yes
Smell = is able to exercise a sense of smell? yes this too but irrel
Smell = is distasteful in a metaphorical way? no although I would say that plastic lawn flamingos are pretty distasteful (apologies to anyone who has one!

Tangible, other than the smell? yes Non-tangible other than the smell?
Living? yes non-living?
If living: plant? animal? this human?
If non-living: stone? plastic? fabric? concrete? metal? rubber? liquid?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 9:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mammal? Bird? Reptile? Amphibian? Fish?

Domesticated? Wild?

Beneficial? Vermin? Pest?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 9:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mammal? Bird? this one Reptile? Amphibian? Fish?

Domesticated? Wild? this one

Beneficial? not sue what this means!? Vermin? Pest? nether
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 10:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Beneficial = something that you want to have around, for some reason, i.e. "Don't kill those ladybugs, they're a beneficial insect; they eat aphids."

Are these birds larger than
a wren (2 to 3 inches long)?
a robin (5 to 6 inches)?
a starling (7 to 8 inches)?
a crow (12 inches)?
a seagull (18 inches)?
a turkey (2 feet)?
a heron (3 feet)?

Is it a songbird? a game bird? a waterbird? a seabird?
Does it eat seeds? plants? insects? worms? meat? fish? nectar?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 10:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Beneficial = something that you want to have around, for some reason, i.e. "Don't kill those ladybugs, they're a beneficial insect; they eat aphids." oh I see, no

Are these birds larger than
a wren (2 to 3 inches long)?
a robin (5 to 6 inches)?
a starling (7 to 8 inches)?
a crow (12 inches)?
a seagull (18 inches)?
a turkey (2 feet)? between this..
a heron (3 feet)? and this

Is it a songbird? a game bird? a waterbird? this one a seabird?
Does it eat seeds? plants? insects? worms? meat? fish? this nectar?
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 10:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Swans? Geese? Not REAL flamingos surely?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 10:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Swans? no Geese? no Not REAL flamingos surely? indeed
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 10:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you saying, indeed it is real flamingoes we're dealing with? Or indeed it isn't?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 6:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you saying, indeed it is real flamingoes we're dealing with? Or indeed it isn't? good point! we are dealing with real flamingos as well and plastic lawn flamingos
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 11:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it anything to do with, er, how shall I put this delicately?, waste food?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 11:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Giggle, Trixie. I've always called it 'used food', myself.

Is the puzzle statement (part of?) a comparison someone is making between real flamingoes and plastic lawn flamingoes? If yes, is who is making the comparison relevant? Would the real flamingoes come out on top, except that the plastic ones don't smell? Is their lack of smell all that can be said in favor of? in defense of? pink plastic lawn flamingoes?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it anything to do with, er, how shall I put this delicately?, waste food? if you mean bird poo, then no

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 11:28 pm:


Is the puzzle statement (part of?) a comparison someone is making between real flamingoes and plastic lawn flamingoes? yes If yes, is who is making the comparison relevant? yope. There is a relevant fact which compares real and plastic flamingos, most likely established by an American who is not relevant. The puzzle statement is my own input, whether I am relevant or not is purely a matter of opinion :) Would the real flamingoes come out on top, except that the plastic ones don't smell? not sure I know what you mean, on top of what? Is their lack of smell all that can be said in favor of? I would say yes in defense of? no pink plastic lawn flamingoes? Yes
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 9:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry, US idiom: 'come out on top' = to be on the better side of a comparison or competition; the more favorable of two things being compared; the preferred choice.

I was asking if someone believes that despite everything that lawn flamingoes have against them, the single fact that they don't smell makes them better than real flamingoes for some purpose. Gads, that was wordy.
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 11:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry, US idiom: 'come out on top' = to be on the better side of a comparison or competition; the more favorable of two things being compared; the preferred choice. In that case, no :)

I was asking if someone believes that despite everything that lawn flamingoes have against them, the single fact that they don't smell makes them better than real flamingoes for some purpose. Gads, that was wordy. no, to be honest the fact that they don't smell isn't even that relevant
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 8:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you speculating on why plastic lawn flamingoes even exist? On who first thought that it would be a good idea to make a plastic flamingo and put it in their lawn?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 12:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you speculating on why plastic lawn flamingoes even exist? On who first thought that it would be a good idea to make a plastic flamingo and put it in their lawn? no to both
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 5:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the idea that plastic flamingoes would attract real ones to this place? or, on the contrary, keep them off? or, be a substitute for real flamingoes, which, for some reason, do not come?
Does the one who makes this statement think that real flamingoes are more preferable in the garden than plastic ones? plastic ones are more preferable?
Is it relevant what real flamingoes would do in the garden?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 6:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the idea that plastic flamingoes would attract real ones to this place? no or, on the contrary, keep them off? no or, be a substitute for real flamingoes, which, for some reason, do not come? no
Does the one who makes this statement think that real flamingoes are more preferable in the garden than plastic ones? no plastic ones are more preferable? not exactly but you are thinking along the right lines
Is it relevant what real flamingoes would do in the garden? no
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you making a direct comparison between live flamingos and plastic ones? Is location relevant? Colour? Quantity? Size?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 1:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you making a direct comparison between live flamingos and plastic ones? yes Is location relevant? only that the comparison concerns the USA Colour? no Quantity? YES Size? no
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 6:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK...Were you comparing the number of real flamingos in the US (very few) to the number of plastic flamingos in the US (a frighteningly large number!) and concluding that, given how many there are, it's a good thing that the plastic ones don't smell?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 7:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK...Were you comparing the number of real flamingos in the US (very few) to the number of plastic flamingos in the US (a frighteningly large number!) and concluding that, given how many there are, it's a good thing that the plastic ones don't smell? pretty much! :)

****************SPOILER***************
This was a silly fact I came across on a website recently. It would appear that there are more plastic lawn flamingoes in the USA than real ones, a frightening number actually and given that real flamingoes aren't known for smelling like roses, it's a good thing that the lawn flamingoes don't smell!

Thankyou everyone and well done to Rabrab for concluding this rather silly puzzle

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