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Old hands at the forum know that I grew up a Jewish family but don't consider myself Jewish & don't participate in religious rituals. I haven't gone to a sedar (Passover dinner) in decades & never will again. This year, however, I was actually kind of hoping someone would invite me to one. How come??

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Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 10:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

P.S. In response to previous question: Whether she knew these things or just believed them is partly a mattewr of opinion.
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 10:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Need a big hint here Felicia Nimue - I think we're going round in circles.. What is the one question we should be answering to get us going?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 11:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 10:37 pm:

Need a big hint here Felicia Nimue - I think we're going round in circles.. What is the one question we should be answering to get us going? What was the story about? When & where was it published?
Tony (E20)
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok ... Insert LTPF list of short stories by Nimue ... was it:

Not This Time? a title which suggests turning down an invitation ...

For the Loved Ones in Your Life? Doubt that it's this ... if you loved them, you'd go to their party anyway!

Applicants?

A Man by Nothing is So Well Betrayed as by His Manners? Manners ...declining invotations ...it could be this one!

In Your Hands?

Have an After Eight Mint? This title seems related to dinner parties ... I'd go for this one!

What Would You Like to Know?? What indeed ...

And Yet Another Transparent Plea for Help?

The Forecasting Game?

Break, Break, Break,?

Buddies?

Flourish Your Heart in This World?

Entertain the Thought? Entertain the thought, but not the guest, as she didn't come!

... or does your CV need updating?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 8:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tony (E20) on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 04:33 pm:

Ok ... Insert LTPF list of short stories by Nimue ... was it:

Not This Time? no a title which suggests turning down an invitation ...

For the Loved Ones in Your Life? no Doubt that it's this ... if you loved them, you'd go to their party anyway!

Applicants? no

A Man by Nothing is So Well Betrayed as by His Manners? Manners ...declining invotations ...it could be this one! no

In Your Hands? no, but I based an other puzzle on this one

Have an After Eight Mint? This title seems related to dinner parties ... I'd go for this one! no

What Would You Like to Know?? What indeed ... No, but I based another puzzle on this one too

And Yet Another Transparent Plea for Help? no

The Forecasting Game? no

Break, Break, Break,? No

Buddies? no

Flourish Your Heart in This World? no

Entertain the Thought? Entertain the thought, but not the guest, as she didn't come! No, but I based a puzzle on this one too

... or does your CV need updating? Yes, I had a new story published in May, & its title (which is a HINT) is "We Gather Together." Another hint (because I really want to post a newp uzzle) is that it was published in a local newspaper.
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 4:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this story about:

A man who loses his memory in an accident, and then engages in hilarious hijinks in an attempt to discover who he really is?

A woman who finds herself alone and penniless at 21, and goes to the big city to make her fortune, and at 25 is the millionaire head of her own cosmetics house?

A teenager who buys a motorcycle and sets off on a journey to a rock concert, which instead turns into a journey of self-discovery?

Two friends who go on holiday together and discover that they actually have nothing in common, but then find some common ground after all?

A tennis pro who is devastated that her career is over due to a shattered wrist, but who finds new meaning in her life teaching inner-city kids how to play?

A farmboy who becomes a fighter pilot, and later discovers that his would-be girlfriend is his twin sister, and the evil dictator who threatens the freedom and safety of the entire region is his father?

Are talking hippos involved? Alternate dimensions? Illicit love affairs? Children raised by wolves?
Tony (E20)
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 11:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Haven't read the story, so I'm still thrashing around in the dark ... (though Google tells me that there was an episode of Knott's Landing called "We Gather Together" which featured a Dr Ackerman!! - how's that for a co-incidence?)

Were you hoping someone would invite you as a result of reading your story?

If so, do any of these approximate to the hoped for invite:

"We read your story about gathering together and thought you would make an interesting dinner guest"?

Or ... "We read your story about the importance of involving the whole community in times of religious observance, and were shamed into inviting you"?

Or ... "We identified ourselves with the characters and situation in your story and would like to recreate the joyous time you described"?

Or ... "We would like to feature in your next story"?

Or ... "Your story was way off the mark ... come and see what a real celebration is like"?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 9:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tony (E20) on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 11:44 am:

Haven't read the story, so I'm still thrashing around in the dark ... (though Google tells me that there was an episode of Knott's Landing called "We Gather Together" which featured a Dr Ackerman!! - how's that for a co-incidence?) YES!!! I didn't know that!

Were you hoping someone would invite you as a result of reading your story? no

If so, do any of these approximate to the hoped for invite:

"We read your story about gathering together and thought you would make an interesting dinner guest"?

Or ... "We read your story about the importance of involving the whole community in times of religious observance, and were shamed into inviting you"?

Or ... "We identified ourselves with the characters and situation in your story and would like to recreate the joyous time you described"?

Or ... "We would like to feature in your next story"?

HINT: Remember, I was planning to decline the invitation if I got one
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 1:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the newspaper:

The San Diego Union-Tribune?
The Buffalo News PO?
The Sacramento Bee?
The Lincoln Journal Star?
The Tulsa World?
The Olympian?
The Arkansas Democrat Gazette?
The Harrisburgh Patriot-News?
The Newark Star Ledger?
The Knoxville News-Sentinel?
The Providence Phoenix?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 8:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 01:11 am:

Was the newspaper:

The San Diego Union-Tribune?
The Buffalo News PO?
The Sacramento Bee?
The Lincoln Journal Star?
The Tulsa World?
The Olympian?
The Arkansas Democrat Gazette?
The Harrisburgh Patriot-News?
The Newark Star Ledger?
The Knoxville News-Sentinel?
The Providence Phoenix? No to all. It was a Providence paper called East Side Monthly. Very few newspapers publish fiction. What's relevant is that it's a local paper
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 8:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the people who might invite you employees of the newspaper? readers of the newspaper? the owners of the newspaper? connected with the newspaper in any relevant way?
Is the idea that if they invited you then you would know that they had/hadn't read your story, so you could thank/berate them accordingly?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 7:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 08:53 pm:

Are the people who might invite you employees of the newspaper? no readers of the newspaper? possiblythe owners of the newspaper? no connected with the newspaper in any relevant way? yes
Is the idea that if they invited you then you would know that they had/hadn't read your story, so you could thank/berate them accordingly? no. It's true that if they invited me, they probably hadn't read the story, but I had no desire to berate them for not doing so

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John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 7:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is their relevant connection to the newspaper:
that they are possibly readers of it?
that they live in the area where it is published?
something else?
Is there a relevant local newspaper *in* the story?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 9:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 07:48 pm:

Is their relevant connection to the newspaper:
that they are possibly readers of it? yes
that they live in the area where it is published?\
b{ see above}
something else? no
Is there a relevant local newspaper *in* the story? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 9:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was Miss Pratt a native american?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 11:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 09:58 pm:

Was Miss Pratt a native american? irrel
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 11:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

RECAP PLUS HINT::Add the following to the puzzle description: The reason I hoped to be invited to a Sedar this year is that I had just had a short story published in a local newspaper, which was about a woman who declined an invitation to a Thanksgiving dinner in a way that made it clear that the invitation should not have been issued in the first place, I would have enjoyed referring to the story as a way of indicating why I should not have been invited to the Sedar. It's irrelevat that the Sedar is a religious event. In fact, it would have been even better if the story had appeared in November & someone had invited me to a Thanksgiving dinner. It is relevant who issues the invitation.
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 3:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A woman declined an invitation "in a way that made it clear that the invitation should not have been issued in the first place"? It seems that it would be very difficult to refuse a person's hospitality in this way without being horribly rude! So there was something in the story where this sort of refusal was made into a joke? Or could somehow be done without giving offense in return for the kindness of an invitation?
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 9:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the idea that the inviter 'should have known better'? because they should have known your feelings on the matter?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 9:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 03:06 am:

A woman declined an invitation "in a way that made it clear that the invitation should not have been issued in the first place"? It seems that it would be very difficult to refuse a person's hospitality in this way without being horribly rude! So there was something in the story where this sort of refusal was made into a joke? no Or could somehow be done without giving offense in return for the kindness of an invitation? Possible false assumption here

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 09:51 am:

is the idea that the inviter 'should have known better'? yes because they should have known your feelings on the matter? yope. Remember, it's irrelevant that the invitation in fact would have involved a religious ritual that doesn't appeal to me

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Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 9:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

not sure if this has been asked - but is the point that the inviter should have invited someone else rather than you?

so the hoped for scenario was:
you would be able to tell your class the following? that you were be invited to a sedar by people who might have read the local paper? in which one of your short stories was published? a story about someone declining an invitation to a thanksgiving dinner? and you would decline the invitation? in a way that made reference to the story? but not for the same reason as your character did?

would you say - 'I won't come, thank you, but don't think it's for the same reason as the woman in my story'. Would you feel you had to make a point that your declining of the invitation was different to that of your character?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 2:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the people whose invitation you'd hoped to decline people with whom you had some sort of business/professional relationship which made it inappropriate to socialise in one another's homes?

Or would the inviters otherwise be presuming upon a social relationship that did not exist?

Is the problem that these other friends would not have been invited, and would have been left out? That they would object if you spent time with the hosts?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 9:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 09:55 pm:

not sure if this has been asked - but is the point that the inviter should have invited someone else rather than you? yesish or yope

so the hoped for scenario was:
you would be able to tell your class the following? that you were be invited to a sedar by people who might have read the local paper? actually, I was hoping to refer to the story in declinoing the invitation. I wanted to make a point to the inviter, rather than to my students in which one of your short stories was published? yes a story about someone declining an invitation to a thanksgiving dinner? yes. And Hannah, I'm pretty sure you've read the story!! and you would decline the invitation? yes in a way that made reference to the story? yes but not for the same reason as your character did? yesish--but the reasons are related

would you say - 'I won't come, thank you, but don't think it's for the same reason as the woman in my story'. Would you feel you had to make a point that your declining of the invitation was different to that of your character? I'd actually want to stress the similarity
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 9:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 02:46 pm:

Were the people whose invitation you'd hoped to decline people with whom you had some sort of business/professional relationship which made it inappropriate to socialise in one another's homes?no

Or would the inviters otherwise be presuming upon a social relationship that did not exist? yesish

Is the problem that these other friends would not have been invited, and would have been left out? no That they would object if you spent time with the hosts? no
Pubalan Nagayah (Sauron)
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 5:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just signed up today. Pls bear with me.

You hope you're invited this year as it is more relevant as the time frame will be closer to the date the story published from the date you get the invitation?

You're an atheist and you would like to decline the invitation, perhaps quoting or telling the inviter that you wrote s story about a person whom declined an invitation for her own legitimate reason(s), without actually confirming or telling the invitor that you are an atheist.
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HINT: If you're American or Canadian or otherwise knowledgeable about Thanksgiving, consider whom might think of inviting to a Thanksgiving dinner.If you're Christian or otherwise knowledgeable about Christmas festivities, make it a Christmas diiner. Jewish? Make it a sedar. None of the above? Oooops--my ignorance about your culture is showing. But your culture probably has some traditional holiday involving a festive meal to which guests are often invited. So make it that.
Jennifer Warde (Tigger32382)
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 9:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I usually consider these to be family holidays... is family relevant?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 10:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jennifer Warde (Tigger32382) on Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 09:45 pm:

I usually consider these to be family holidays... is family relevant?yope

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John Faben (Bentarm)
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 11:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you related to the people giving the invitation? Is the someone they should have invited instead of you related to them? by blood? by marriage?
(sorry, I'm probably repeating, but this isn't in the recap, and I can't really get the energy to read through 4 archives...)
Is it relevant what you were going to do instead of go to the Dinner? Were you having dinner with someone else?
Did your response specifically mention the people they should have invited instead of you?

Oooh... just re-read Hannah's question. Should the inviter have invited someone else instead of you? (and ignore questions above with references to the someone else if the answer to this one is no) Would it have been more acceptable to invite you if they'd invited the someone else as well?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 1:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Faben (Bentarm) on Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 11:43 pm:

Are you related to the people giving the invitation? no Is the someone they should have invited instead of you related to them? no by blood? by marriage?
(sorry, I'm probably repeating, but this isn't in the recap, and I can't really get the energy to read through 4 archives...)
Is it relevant what you were going to do instead of go to the Dinner? no Were you having dinner with someone else?
Did your response specifically mention the people they should have invited instead of you? no. By the way, I did not actially get this invitation; I just hoped to get it, even though I planned to decline it

Oooh... just re-read Hannah's question. Should the inviter have invited someone else instead of you? no (and ignore questions above with references to the someone else if the answer to this one is no) Would it have been more acceptable to invite you if they'd invited the someone else as well? no
Pubalan Nagayah (Sauron)
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 4:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm quite familiar with cristianity and a few other religions. Living in a multiracial country. ;p

Not too familiar with Judaism, although have met a few Jews. I know they "shouldn't" mix dairy prods with meat in a meal.:)

Is the group of invitors you'd hope to get the invitation include your friends? friends or colleagues from work? Relatives? acquaintances?

or

Should the group of invitors be in any categories of acquaintances but must have read or would have had a chance to read the article?

Would it be relevant to hope for the invitation this year because you are retired/retiring this year?

If it is not Political/Religious/Ethical reasons for declining, could it be because of physical or psycological reason/state?
Pubalan Nagayah (Sauron)
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 4:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would your reason for the declination likely to offend Everyone? a friend? Family? Colleagues?

Are you hoping that by refering to the article that you may somewhat lessen the offensiveness?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 7:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By inviting you would they be presuming that they have a relationship with you that they do not have?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 8:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Pubalan Nagayah (Sauron) on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 04:07 pm:

I'm quite familiar with cristianity and a few other religions. Living in a multiracial country. ;p I looked up your profile & saw it was Malaysia, where the wife of one of my friends comes from. No, of course I'm not going to ask whether you know her!!

Not too familiar with Judaism, although have met a few Jews. I know they "shouldn't" mix dairy prods with meat in a meal. Irrel. Remember, I said the puzzle would work as well for Christmas dinner & even better for Thanksgiving. So you don't need to know an ything about Judaism. I don't know much about it myself, even though my parents are Jewish

Is the group of invitors you'd hope to get the invitation include your friends? no friends or colleagues from work? colleagues, yes; friends, no Relatives? no acquaintances? yes

or

Should the group of invitors be in any categories of acquaintances but must have read or would have had a chance to read the article? No, if they read the story, they probably wouldn't invite me, unless they're DOPES

Would it be relevant to hope for the invitation this year because you are retired/retiring this year? No. I'm not retiring (& never will, even when I reach the age where people are pressured to), & anyway, retirement is irrel to this puzzle
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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If it is not Political/Religious/Ethical reasons for declining, could it be because of physical or psycological reason/state? Physical? no. Psychological? Well, obviously it's because of an opinion I have

By Pubalan Nagayah (Sauron) on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 04:29 pm:

Would your reason for the declination likely to offend Everyone? no a friend?N/A--the reason wouldn't apply to a friend Family? The reason wouldn't apply here. either Colleagues? Some would be offended; some would not

Are you hoping that by refering to the article that you may somewhat lessen the offensiveness? no

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 07:19 pm:

By inviting you would they be presuming that they have a relationship with you that they do not have? I think so, but that's a matter of opinion
John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Is the idea that they shouldn't invite you to a family-and-close-friends event, if they don't know you well enough to know that you wouldn't go anyway?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 08:16 pm:

Is the idea that they shouldn't invite you to a family-and-close-friends event, if they don't know you well enough to know that you wouldn't go anyway? No. After all, I said a Thanksgiving dinner would have worked even better, & I generally DO go to a Thanksgiving dinner every year. But you're ORT (on the right track)
Mosquito (Mosquito)
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It sounds as if you don't like these people very much; are they unaware of this?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 10:15 pm:

It sounds as if you don't like these people very much; are they unaware of this? The puzzle does not hinge on the invitation's comin g from people I previously disliked
Mosquito (Mosquito)
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So something about their simply issuing the invitation would make you become angry with/not like the people anymore?

Something besides the presumption?

Would they have been inviting you out of pity because they thought you didn't have anyone else to spend the holiday with?

Would they have been trying to set you up with someone? Was this enough in itself, or would they have tried to set you up with someone of the wrong gender?

Or did you already have a partner? And you expected that they would not invite him/her? (in that case, surely you could have asked whether you could bring them along?)
Jennifer Warde (Tigger32382)
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 4:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there something specific about you, your lifestyle choices, etc. that would offend some of your coworkers? Would you want to turn down their invitation to make a statement in support of your lifestyle?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 02:06 pm:

So something about their simply issuing the invitation would make you become angry with/not like the people anymore? yes--although 'not like' is a bit too strong

Something besides the presumption? yes

Would they have been inviting you out of pity because they thought you didn't have anyone else to spend the holiday with? yes.

Would they have been trying to set you up with someone? no Was this enough in itself, or would they have tried to set you up with someone of the wrong gender?

Or did you already have a partner?no And you expected that they would not invite him/her? (in that case, surely you could have asked whether you could bring them along?)
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Jennifer Warde (Tigger32382) on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 04:44 pm:

Is there something specific about you, your lifestyle choices, etc. that would offend some of your coworkers? no Would you want to turn down their invitation to make a statement in support of your lifestyle? no

Mosquito is close enough fore me to declare a
****SPOILER***********
I have always found it offensive when someone invites to a Thanksgiving dinner, Christmas dinner, Sedar, etc. an unmarried person with whom he does not ordinarily socilaize. Such an invitation looks like charity rather than interest in pursuing a real friendship. My story that was published in May was about a Glenda, 30ish married woman who decides to follow a newspaper columnist's advice & "Invite a lonely person to your Thanksgiving dinner." So she invites Miss Pratt, the crippled, unkempt, octogenarian shut-in who lives downstairs. Miss P. declines on the grounds that, "I already have plans. I will be spending Thanksgiving here with friends." Since she knows that Miss P. never goes anywhere & no one ever comes to see her, Glenda figures Miss P. is making an excuse to accepting avoid a charity-invitation.But when Miss P. informs G. after the holiday that she did spent Thanksgiving with her friends, & that in fact, "They come every day," G. thinks Miss. P. is nuts & is having delusions. The story ends as follows:
"To them I am not old and crippled," Miss Pratt was saying.
"I--" Glenda began.
"They come to me in a better world, where there is neither young nor old, healthy nor crippled." Miss Pratt smiled beatifically. "On the Internet," she said, and hobbled back into her apartment, closing the door behind her.

So if someone had invited me to a SEdar, I would have declined & suggested he read the story to find out my reason. Thanks for swticking with it, everyone, & for solving it Mosquito, & fly to my new puzzle at the bottom of the page.

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