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Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Old hands at the forum know that I grew up a Jewish family but don't consider myself Jewish & don't participate in religious rituals. I haven't gone to a sedar (Passover dinner) in decades & never will again. This year, however, I was actually kind of hoping someone would invite me to one. How come??
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Am I correct in assuming that you haven't, after these decades, thought about going back to Judaism?

Has something relevant changed about you this last year? Has your diet changed? Your political persuasion? Your religious / spiritual outlook on life?

If invited, would you have accepted the invitation? Would you have turned up?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you hoping to be invited to a particular sedar? by a specific person? someone who doesn't know you don't participate in religious rituals?

Has something about the ritual itself changed this year? and you are curious to see the new version?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has this anything to do with "Why is this night different from all other nights"?
Ian (Image)
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you hoping that someone specific would invite you? Or anyone in general? Were you hoping that your arch-nemisis would invite you so you could laugh, spit in his/her face, and graciously decline?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ed Mason (Logician) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:45 pm:


Am I correct in assuming that you haven't, after these decades, thought about going back to
Judaism? yes, except that the term 'back' is inapplicable. I was never really in Judaism

Has something relevant changed about you this last year? yes Has your diet changed? no Your
political persuasion? no Your religious / spiritual outlook on life? no
no
If invited, would you have accepted the invitation? Would you have turned up? no

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:48 pm:


Were you hoping to be invited to a particular sedar?no by a specific person? no someone who
doesn't know you don't participate in religious rituals? well, someone who knew would hardly invite me

Has something about the ritual itself changed this year? no and you are curious to see the new
version? no
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:50 pm:


Has this anything to do with "Why is this night different from all other nights"? No. Except that I couldn't resist adapting that line for my title

By Ian (Image) on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:18 am:


Were you hoping that someone specific would invite you? no Or anyone in general? yesish Were you
hoping that your arch-nemisis would invite you so you could laugh, spit in his/her face, and
graciously decline? no
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BLOOOOPERRRRR ALERRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
Or anyone in general? yesish the answer should be no
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Unusually, Passover usually falls around Easter time, but this year it was around about the 23rd April, almost a month after Easter. Is this relevant?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 1:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there any relevant aspect of the ritual itself that we need to know? or could it have been any religious ritual?
Were you hoping to be invited by any member of a specific group of people? if so, how many? less than 5? 10? 20? 50? 100?
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 4:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

were you trying to avoid having to do something else? that night?

would an invitation to a secular dinner at someone else's house do just as well? an invitation to go out to the cinema?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 5:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lynne (Lynne) on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:29 pm:


Unusually, Passover usually falls around Easter time, but this year it was around about the
23rd April, almost a month after Easter. Is this relevant? yope

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 01:54 pm:


Is there any relevant aspect of the ritual itself that we need to know? no or could it have been
any religious ritual? no
Were you hoping to be invited by any member of a specific group of people? yes if so, how
many? less than 5? 10? 20? 50? 100? no fixed number, but probably about 50-60 people would qualify

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 04:04 pm:


were you trying to avoid having to do something else? no that night? no

would an invitation to a secular dinner at someone else's house do just as well? yope an invitation
to go out to the cinema? no
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

you say you were kind of hoping that someone would ask you to a passover meal - did you feel that being invited to one would bring a benefit which you could receive even if you didn't actually attend the meal?

assuming you were thinking that a benefit would result from being invited to a passover meal - would that be a benefit to you only? to someone else only? to you plus others? to your family? to your friends?

would this benefit be something good happening? something bad not happening?
would it be financial? emotional? spiritual? material? improved status? kudos?

are any of these relevant to the puzzle - creative writing? weather forecasting? chocolate? politics? philosophy? education? academic life? TV programmes? ethical issues? pets? children? health? death?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 10:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 08:10 pm:


you say you were kind of hoping that someone would ask you to a passover meal - did you
feel that being invited to one would bring a benefit which you could receive even if you didn't
actually attend the meal? yes

assuming you were thinking that a benefit would result from being invited to a passover meal
- would that be a benefit to you only? yes to someone else only? to you plus others? to your
family? to your friends?

would this benefit be something good happening? yes something bad not happening? no
would it be financial? no emotional? yes spiritual? no material? no improved status? no kudos? no

are any of these relevant to the puzzle - creative writing? yes weather forecasting? no chocolate? no
politics? no philosophy? no education? no academic life? no TV programmes? noethical issues? yespets? no
children? no health? noish death? noWell, you've got my interests &/pecularities down pat, except that you omitted Malory, not that it's relevant!!
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 12:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so - the benefit you would hope to gain - would it be material for a story? material for an essay on an ethical issue? would it be first hand experience which would help you talk about an ethical issue? something you could use in a teaching scenario? as a 'real life' example? of something that happened to you? or a decision you had to make?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 6:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

y Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 12:58 pm:


so - the benefit you would hope to gain - would it be material for a story? no material for an
essay on an ethical issue? no would it be first hand experience which would help you talk about
an ethical issue? yesish something you could use in a teaching scenario? yes as a 'real life' example? yes of
something that happened to you? yes or a decision you had to make? yes
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 10:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so should we finding out exactly what issue you wished to use this situation as an example for?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 10:11 pm:


so should we finding out exactly what issue you wished to use this situation as an example
for? yes
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 2:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

marriage ?
divorce ?
poverty ?
humility ?
self confidence ?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 7:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Kapil Kapur (Dinkie) on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 02:25 pm:


marriage ? no
divorce ? no
poverty ? no
humility ? yesish
self confidence ? yesish
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 8:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you have a prior engagement for that day?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 9:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 08:37 pm:


Did you have a prior engagement for that day? irrel