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Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 1:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

International politics? no...
Or, is another planet relevant? this, well done

Is he a science fiction author? YES
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 1:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he Bradbury? Asimov?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 2:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

no to both
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Clarke?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 3:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

no
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 4:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Heinlein?

Harlan Ellison?

Are we looking for one of the Science-fiction icons, or a less-acclaimed author?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 5:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Heinlein?

Harlan Ellison?
no to both
Are we looking for one of the Science-fiction icons, or a less-acclaimed author? definitely an icon. Here's a hint: the puzzle title will give you the author
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 5:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, "kami" is a Japanese word for the Divine power in the Shinto religion. "Viriditas" is a pseudo-Latin word for the "green force" of Nature. I mention this only in case it helps other people identify this author, because I don't have a clue :(

Unless, of course, it was Kim Stanley Robinson, but he's not exactly an icon.
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 5:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, "kami" is a Japanese word for the Divine power in the Shinto religion. "Viriditas" is a pseudo-Latin word for the "green force" of Nature. I mention this only in case it helps other people identify this author, because I don't have a clue :(

Unless, of course, it was Kim Stanley Robinson, but he's not exactly an icon. That's the one. Maybe not the author then, but the book most certainly is an icon. If you Google Kami Viriditas you find Kim Stanley Robinson's book as the first hit (after this puzzle).
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 5:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ah, then does it have anything to do with the finding of evidence that there was (is?) water on Mars?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 3:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ah, then does it have anything to do with the finding of evidence that there was (is?) water on Mars? No, but good try.
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 6:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ANything to do with Mars at all?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 4:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything to do with Mars at all? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 5:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Another planet is relevant, but not Mars. Mercury? Venus? Jupiter? Saturn? Uranus? Neptune? Pluto? a planet outside the Solar System? a fictional planet?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 4:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

oops, I missed I had wrote that. Before that point, Kim Stanly Robinson had not been "discovered" by the forum, so at that point Mars was relevent. However, now that we have ascertained that the prophecy comes from the Mars trilogy, Mars is no longer relevent. Sorry for any confusion.
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 10:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok fine. I'll bump this one along. Is the prediction from Red Mars? Green Mars? Blue Mars? Other Mars?

Does one have to go read the book to figure out what this prediction is?

Does the prediction have to do with... overpopulation? Landing on Mars? Colonization of Mars? Politics? Economics? Science? The nature of human beings? The nature of something else that can have a nature? The Micheal Jackson trial? Other?

I've got your prediction: She who does lateral puzzles at 2 am will find her answers sounding about the same as somebody who does lateral puzzles while stoned or high on Jolt.
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 11:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok fine. I'll bump this one along. Is the prediction from Red Mars? Green Mars? Blue Mars? Other Mars? well to be honest, I've only read Red Mars. It may or may not be relevent in any of the other ones...

Does one have to go read the book to figure out what this prediction is? possibly to find the connection, but it is probably possible to do without reading it. And even if you do, it is possible to miss. Plus, your questions below have given this a good kick in the right direction and from them it is definitely possible to find it without reading the book.

Does the prediction have to do with... overpopulation? yes Landing on Mars? no Colonization of Mars? no Politics? YES Economics? YES Science? YES The nature of human beings? YES The nature of something else that can have a nature? uhh... tautologically defined yes - if it is relevent and has a nature, then yes will answer this question :) The Micheal Jackson trial? no Other? yessish

I've got your prediction: She who does lateral puzzles at 2 am will find her answers sounding about the same as somebody who does lateral puzzles while stoned or high on Jolt. as long as you don't do all three simultaneously...
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 7:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*glances at a summary of Red Mars* I'm cheating... so sue me. Nobody else is answering!

Hrm... is this the sort of prediction that was also made similarly in "Lord of the Flies"?

Is this prediction about...
people's reactions to overpopulation?
people's reaction to the prospect of colonizing a dead planet?
the socio-economic forces that propel and attempt to control real interplanetary colonization?
political groups turning against each other after a murder?
the interests of transnational corporations against the dreams of the pioneers?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 1:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hrm... is this the sort of prediction that was also made similarly in "Lord of the Flies"? no

Is this prediction about...
people's reactions to overpopulation?
people's reaction to the prospect of colonizing a dead planet?
the socio-economic forces that propel and attempt to control real interplanetary colonization?
political groups turning against each other after a murder?
the interests of transnational corporations against the dreams of the pioneers? this is closest
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 6:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was his prediction related to...
A major corporation?
The break-up of Microsoft?
The arrest of Martha Stewart?
Corporations funding Political interests?
Wait... you said this hasn't happened yet?
UMMM. Something about big buisnesses ruining small buisnesses? The collapse of government in favor of rule by capitalism? Walmart takes over the world?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 8:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was his prediction related to...
A major corporation? yopish
The break-up of Microsoft? no
The arrest of Martha Stewart? no
Corporations funding Political interests? yes
Wait... you said this hasn't happened yet?
UMMM. Something about big buisnesses ruining small buisnesses? no The collapse of government in favor of rule by capitalism? yessish Walmart takes over the world? no
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 9:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Corporations funding US political interests? Or UK political interests? Other?
A buisnessman turning into a politician? or taking control of the government?
Is this related to Star Wars? War on Terrorism? Iraq? Oil? in any way?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 5:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Corporations funding US political interests? Or UK political interests? Other? either or or
A buisnessman turning into a politician? or taking control of the government? yope, think along the lines of oligarchy...
Is this related to Star Wars? War on Terrorism? Iraq? Oil? in any way? no to all
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 6:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

corporate states?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 7:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Corporate influence on government? if yes, via campaign contributions? lobbying efforts? the cost of campaigning? control of the news media by a few large corporations?

otherwise: the fact that we're getting closer to having to pay to get the news?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 1:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

corporate states? if I remember the definition of this correctly, then yes

Corporate influence on government? no if yes, via campaign contributions? lobbying efforts? the cost of campaigning? control of the news media by a few large corporations?

otherwise: the fact that we're getting closer to having to pay to get the news? no
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 2:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh bugger! Just visited a certain site, and discovered this puzzle is no longer valid. Which means I'm going to have to give you the


:::::: Spoiler ::::::
In Kim Stanley Robinson's book
Red Mars, Part 5, a 'treatment' that prolongs life is developed. This, as his character Frank points out, will be particularly devestating to the Earth's social economy, as if it were publicised it would cause widespread clamour, almost a Gold Rush, as people move in to try and sell this drug for Eternal Youth.
However, I bet he never thought of Google. Until recently, if you typed in Eternal Youth into our beloved Search Engine, you would see "Eternal Youth, Huge selection, Low prices!" I reckon he'd be more amused than worried...

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