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dryman (Dryman)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 4:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

let's hope this one lasts longer!

M, international jewel thief extraordinaire, cleverly obtains an invitation to the summer home of S, a wealthy and paranoid dealer in precious stones, to examine a particularly valuable set of uncut gems.

Distracted only momentarily during their conversation, S suddenly notices that the precious stones have been replaced with fakes. The police are called and a thorough search of M and the premises is made, but nothing out of the ordinary is found. They have no choice but to let M go free.

M waits patiently for an appropriate time, and returns to the mansion under cover of darkness. Carefully disabling the exterior alarm, he pries open a window, but does not go through. Several weeks later, M is in posession of the gems he came to steal.
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 6:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the window that M pries open in the same room as he was shown the gems in?

Does M reach through the window?
Does he remove anything from the window? from the house?
Does he place anything into the house?
Does he leave the window open?

Would this puzzle still work if the gems had been cut, but still loose? cut and in multiple settings? cut and all in one setting?


Is the way the window opens relevant? if yes, is it
jalousie (the ones made of many narrow panes of glass that overlap like shingles and angle out individually when a crank is turned)?
double-hung?
horizontally sliding?
does it swing out from a hinge at the top?
from a hinge at the bottom?
from a hinge on one side?
like french doors, outwards?
like french doors inwards?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 2:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He fed 'em to the cat? And then the cat jumped out the window later?
Vae (Vaetrus)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aw dang... I was gonna say dog? pet?
dryman (Dryman)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 3:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the window that M pries open in the same room as he was shown the gems in? yes

Does M reach through the window? no
Does he remove anything from the window? no from the house? no
Does he place anything into the house? no
Does he leave the window open? yes

Would this puzzle still work if the gems had been cut, but still loose? cut and in multiple settings? cut and all in one setting? good q -if the gems had been cut (in settings or without), it would be much less likely to work

Is the way the window opens relevant? no if yes, is it jalousie (the ones made of many narrow panes of glass that overlap like shingles and angle out individually when a crank is turned)?
double-hung?
horizontally sliding?
does it swing out from a hinge at the top?
from a hinge at the bottom?
from a hinge on one side?
like french doors, outwards?
like french doors inwards? you know a lot more about windows than I do!

He fed 'em to the cat? no And then the cat jumped out the window later? no

Aw dang... I was gonna say dog? no pet? not quite.. however pets are tangentially involved in the puzzle!
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 3:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, a dog or cat would likely be, er, "finished" with 'em before too long, maybe a snake or something...

Is condensation relevant? Climate control system? Is/are the color(s) of the gems relevant? Is there an aquarium on the premis...presmi...preme...does S have a fishbowl?
dryman (Dryman)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 3:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, a dog or cat would likely be, er, "finished" with 'em before too long, maybe a snake or something... not a snake

Is condensation relevant? no Climate control system? yes Is/are the color(s) of the gems relevant? no Is there an aquarium on the premis...presmi...preme...does S have a fishbowl? YES
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 3:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh dear, did M dump the gems into the fishbowl? And then commit fishicide?
dryman (Dryman)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 3:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh dear, did M dump the gems into the fishbowl? YES And then commit fishicide? yes.. but how exactly?
Ostap Bender (Ostap)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the owner of the house (or somebody else living there) notice that the window was open? if so, did he close it?
Is the climate in this area relevant?
Were animals injured or killed during this action?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 3:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was thinking maybe he done froze 'em or boiled 'em or something by opening the winder and messing up the heating or air conditioning, sumpin' like that? And then he collected the discarded marbles/glass beads on trash day?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 3:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I suppose if the fish were of a type particularly sensitive to temperature that would make it easier...
dryman (Dryman)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 4:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the owner of the house (or somebody else living there) notice that the window was open? no if so, did he close it? no
Is the climate in this area relevant? yes
Were animals injured or killed during this action? yes - the fish all died

I was thinking maybe he done froze 'em yes or boiled 'em or something by opening the winder and messing up the heating or air conditioning, sumpin' like that? And then he collected the discarded marbles/glass beads on trash day? yes!


**** SPOILER ****
M nabs the gems with sleight-of-hand and quickly drops them into a nearby fishtank, where the uncut stones blend in perfectly with the quartz gravel. Waiting for winter when S has departed the summer home, M opens the window during a cold snap, causing the aquarium to freeze and shatter. After a thaw the next week, a mess of dead fish and gravel is discovered by the caretaker, and later collected from the dumpster by M.


done in under a day - I'm impressed!
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 5:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry 'bout that--lucky guessing on my part (although your hint about pets and the most excellent question about cut/set gems probably had something to do with it as well).
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We're scary when we all work together...


Very nice puzzle, dryman.
Vae (Vaetrus)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 9:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Very nice puzzle. Especially with the climate factor.

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