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Ostap Bender (Ostap)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 9:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Seems birdie understands some of this strange language .. maybe, you can make a rope from the clothes on the mannequins and convince the bird to take it up to the rafters ..
(Did you realize that once again you will have to rely on the help of an animal to get out?)
For now (if you're not too tired) please try to call the bird just now. Maybe he shows up and you can see how he looks like. Say loudly and clearly all words from the book, including yub and skaw.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 7:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOCATION: Bird Room

Ostap: Seems birdie understands some of this strange language...maybe, you can make a rope from the clothes on the mannequins and convince the bird to take it up to the rafters... Trav: But can the bird tie a knot in the rope when it gets there?
(Did you realize that once again you will have to rely on the help of an animal to get out?)
Trav: A common thing in this puzzle - let's hope I can get the bird to cooperate
For now (if you're not too tired) please try to call the bird just now. Maybe he shows up and you can see how he looks like. Trav: Let's try:

"Nullu daw!"

Within seconds, a large bird comes down from the rafters and perches on my wrist (I'm still wearing a glove). This bird resembles a hawk, but has a larger body and wider beak.


Say loudly and clearly all words from the book, including yub and skaw. Trav: Ok, I'll try some of the words on the bird page -

"veskil" - the bird quickly glances around the room, then sits still
"teren smu grallu" - the bird once again glances around the room, then sits still
"yub" - the bird releases my wrist and flies up into the rafters, out of my sight
"skaw" - nothing happens
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 8:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe you could make a rope that was twice as long as the height of the rafters. Then the bird could fly up, across, and down, and you could tie the knot yourself. But how to get the bird to fly across? Maybe you could throw a berry above the rafters, and say one of the book words when it stalls there.

For now, call the bird again, and try throwing some berries around the room, while saying some words from the book, and see if you can get the bird to chase the berries.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 9:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOCATION: Bird Room

John: Maybe you could make a rope that was twice as long as the height of the rafters. Then the bird could fly up, across, and down, and you could tie the knot yourself. But how to get the bird to fly across? Maybe you could throw a berry above the rafters, and say one of the book words when it stalls there. Trav: This may well work, at least in theory. I'm not much of a rope-maker, but I know how to rip fabric and tie knots together. I'll think about this...

For now, call the bird again, and try throwing some berries around the room, while saying some words from the book, and see if you can get the bird to chase the berries.
Trav: Sure, it's worth a try -

"Nullu daw" - The bird returns to my wrist

I threw a berry up into the air. The bird calmly sat and waited until the berry came back down and landed on the floor. The bird is now looking at the floor where the berry landed but it has not left my arm.

So next, I threw another berry up and yelled "veskil!". The bird made some quick glances around the room, did not pay any attention to the berry, then sat still.

Next, I tossed another berry up into the air and yelled "skaw!" The bird released my arm and flew up to the rafters, ignoring the berry (which came down onto the floor).

I threw another berry up at the rafters and yelled "yub", but I did not see the bird appear, and the berry came back down to the floor.
Heather Warde (Heatherw)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 9:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Try calling him down to your wrist again by yelling "nullu daw". Then try yelling "yub" to see what he does.
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

try calling the bird to your wrist and saying teren smu grallu. Then throw a berry in the air and try it again...
Heather Warde (Heatherw)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 11:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were there any differences about how the bird flew up to the rafters between when you said skaw and yub?
Heather Warde (Heatherw)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 11:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Try turning the table upside down so that the legs look like posts. Then call the bird down and say teren smu grallu.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 2:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOCATION: Bird Room

Heather: Try calling him down to your wrist again by yelling "nullu daw". Then try yelling "yub" to see what he does. Trav: Ok - when I said "nullu daw", the bird promptly came down to my wrist. When I said "yub", the bird did not respond.
Were there any differences about how the bird flew up to the rafters between when you said skaw and yub? Trav: No
Try turning the table upside down so that the legs look like posts. Trav: Done
Then call the bird down and say teren smu grallu. Trav: The bird is still sitting on my arm. I just said "teren smu grallu", and the bird flew over and landed on one of the upturned table legs - cool!

Ian: try calling the bird to your wrist and saying teren smu grallu. Then throw a berry in the air and try it again...Trav: Ok - I said the phrase again and tossed up a berry, but the bird did not respond
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 7:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

try calling the bird back down with nullu daw. then show it the rope and say krit eru fashel. then try saying veskil. then try saying nullu daw... see what happens.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 7:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOCATION: Bird Room

Jenn: try calling the bird back down with nullu daw. Trav: Ok, the bird comes down just like before
then show it the rope Trav: Have I made a rope?
and say krit eru fashel. Trav: I thought we were just considering the rope. I said this to the bird and held up a piece of clothing, but got no response
then try saying veskil. Trav: Bird glances around, but then stays still
then try saying nullu daw... see what happens.
Trav: Bird stays still
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 7:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

my bad, i thought we had already made it. if the rest of it doesn't work, the rope doesn't matter anyways. can you break a twig off of one of the mannekins and say krit eru fashel and see what he does?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 8:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOCATION: Bird Room

Jenn: my bad, i thought we had already made it.
Trav: I'm wondering if that suggestion was intended as a request...
if the rest of it doesn't work, the rope doesn't matter anyways. Trav: True, and I'm still wondering what I would do once I got up to those rafters anyway...
can you break a twig off of one of the mannekins Trav: Sure
and say krit eru fashel and see what he does?
Trav: Well I said it, but I got no response
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 8:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Trav: I guess the bird is bored - it just left my arm and went down onto the floor. It picked up a piece of a berry and flew back up into the rafters. I hadn't noticed this before, but once the bird gets up there I can faintly hear it settling into a nest of some sort, at least that is how it sounds to me.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 9:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Trav: Just a minute ago, the bird swooped down and picked up that scrap of fabric that I offered as a "rope" and flew back up to the rafters with the fabric in its beak. Seems to be somewhat of a neat freak, maybe, or just a packrat...
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 10:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hmm... that makes it seem as if perhaps the bird picked up the key and took it to his nest... maybe if we can knock the nest down somehow? okay, let's make the rope while we're at it... it will probably come in handy. maybe we can tie something heavy to the end of it and use it to knock the nest down.
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 10:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you sure that it's always the same bird?
If he (she) has a nest, then he has very likely also a mate. Look more carefully at the bird's appearance when he shows up next time.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 4:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOCATION: Bird Room

Jenn: hmm... that makes it seem as if perhaps the bird picked up the key and took it to his nest...Trav: This may be our way out, since there is no evidence of a key anywhere else in the room...
maybe if we can knock the nest down somehow? Trav: This may be tough, but if there's a key up there this would allow me to get it
okay, let's make the rope while we're at it... it will probably come in handy. maybe we can tie something heavy to the end of it and use it to knock the nest down. Trav: Ok, I've gone ahead and used pieces of clothing from the mannequins to fashion a rope long enough to reach from the floor to the rafters.

Jens: Are you sure that it's always the same bird? Trav: I am almost certain that it is
If he (she) has a nest, then he has very likely also a mate. Look more carefully at the bird's appearance when he shows up next time. Trav: Ok, I will do it
Heather Warde (Heatherw)
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 4:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Please try attaching the end of the rope to a fairly large twig taken from one of the mannekins. Then call the bird down. If the bird takes the twig up to the nest, pull on the end of the rope see if you can get the nest to fall. Hope there are no eggs in it.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 12:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOCATION: Bird Room

Heather: Please try attaching the end of the rope to a fairly large twig taken from one of the mannekins. Trav: Ok

Then call the bird down. Trav: Ok

If the bird takes the twig up to the nest, pull on the end of the rope see if you can get the nest to fall. Hope there are no eggs in it.
Trav: I'm offering the rope to the bird, but it doesn't seem interested
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 12:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Throw the twig and say "veskil".
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 2:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If that doesn't work, say krit eru fashel
Heather Warde (Heatherw)
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 3:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If neither of those work, try just laying the twig down and wait to see if the bird just picks it up on its own.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 8:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOCATION: Bird-O-Rama

John: Throw the twig and say "veskil".
Trav: I did this, but the bird did not respond
Jenn: If that doesn't work, say krit eru fashel
Trav: No response from the bird when I do this
Heather: If neither of those work, try just laying the twig down and wait to see if the bird just picks it up on its own.
Trav: Ok, I laid the twig down. The bird remained still for several minutes, and I remained silent. Then, the bird left my arm, swooped down and picked up the twig and flew up into the rafters.
Heather Warde (Heatherw)
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Great! Now see if you can dislodge the nest by pulling on the end of the rope. Pull gently at first to see if there is resistance. If there is, then give it a good tug.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 1:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOCATION: Bird Room

Heather: Great! Now see if you can dislodge the nest by pulling on the end of the rope. Pull gently at first to see if there is resistance. If there is, then give it a good tug.
Trav: I hope this works...I tugged on the rope, and there was very little resistance. Shortly the rope with twig attached came down in a pile next to me. That was a good plan...any other ideas?
Heather Warde (Heatherw)
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 6:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe you need to use something heavier. Can you take one of the legs off the table?If you can, please take it off and attach it to the rope. Lay this on the ground and see if the bird picks it up and brings it to the nest. Then again try tugging on it.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 8:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOCATION: Bird Room

Heather: Maybe you need to use something heavier. Can you take one of the legs off the table?If you can, please take it off and attach it to the rope. Lay this on the ground and see if the bird picks it up and brings it to the nest. Then again try tugging on it. Trav: Well, despite my best effort, there is no way that I can break one of those legs off of the table, it is too sturdy and well-anchored.

There has to be a way to see what that bird has up there. As I've been working, I've been thinking about what we know the bird can do. I can get him to come to me on command, that is not a problem. I know that he will pick up small objects and take them up to the rafters. Other than "nullu daw", the bird has only responded to "yub" and "skaw". Perhaps the commands on other pages only work with those other animals? I don't know...I'm going to keep thinking about all of this and hope that maybe our combined effors will get me out of this room!
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 7:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

try changing costumes. then try saying words from all the other pages at random and see if we can get any other animals to appear
Dena Elbling (Ladyzinga)
Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 12:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The only thing I can think to do is call the bird down, tie our makeshift rope to its leg, send it back up to the rafters, wait for it to settle in its nest, and give the rope a sharp tug. I’d hate to risk traumatizing the poor thing, like we did with the gorilla and the elephant, but its all I got and i wanna help!
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 8:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry, I've been away for a while with family for the holidays...

Jenn: try changing costumes. then try saying words from all the other pages at random and see if we can get any other animals to appear
Trav: Ok, I tried this, but not to any avail as far as I can tell.

Dena: The only thing I can think to do is call the bird down, tie our makeshift rope to its leg, send it back up to the rafters, wait for it to settle in its nest, and give the rope a sharp tug. I’d hate to risk traumatizing the poor thing, like we did with the gorilla and the elephant, but its all I got and i wanna help!
Trav: Welcome into the fun! Let's try your idea...

"Nullu daw" - bird lands on my arm

I've tied the rope to its leg, now...

"yub" - bird flies up into rafters

I felt the rope move for a few seconds, then it became still. I waited, then gave a firm tug. I heard the sound of the nest moving across the rafters, then a CLINK, like something metal dropped onto one of the rafters...
Heather Warde (Heatherw)
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 1:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hope you had a Merry Christmas!

Try making the rope twice as long. Then position yourself so that you are on the opposite side of the rafter from where the rope is hanging. Then call the bird down. See if you can get the rope hung over the rafter. Then grab both ends and try to slide it along to push off the metal thing that fell out of the nest.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hope you had a Merry Christmas!
I did, and I hope you did as well!

Heather:
Try making the rope twice as long. Trav: Ok, I have enough fabric to make it, I think...
Then position yourself so that you are on the opposite side of the rafter from where the rope is hanging. Then call the bird down. See if you can get the rope hung over the rafter. Then grab both ends and try to slide it along to push off the metal thing that fell out of the nest.
Trav: Ok, let me see if I'm following you here -
I'm on the opposite side of the rafter from where the rope is..."nullu daw"...the bird comes down and perches on me..."yub"...bird has flown up into the rafters, but this time I can see his wings flapping slightly as he lands...he is perched on one of the rafters, and in the poor light it appears that he has something in his beak (maybe something we need?). I've slid the rope along the rafter, but it does not come into contact with anything...
Heather Warde (Heatherw)
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Try calling him down again and see if he brings the object with him.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 8:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Heather: Try calling him down again and see if he brings the object with him. Trav: Ok...

"nullu daw!"

The bird comes down...with a key in his beak!
Heather Warde (Heatherw)
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 8:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Great! Try the key in the door.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 8:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Heather: Great! Try the key in the door. Trav: I will do that if I can get the key - the bird has it clamped tightly, and evades my attempts to remove it from its beak - what now?
Dena Elbling (Ladyzinga)
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 10:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There are still some commands to try! We still don’t know what “skaw” and “yub” mean. Maybe one could be a drop command?

If that doesn’t work, try covering its head, especially its eyes, and gently prying the key from its beak. Birds tend to act slightly more docile when their eyes are covered.
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 11:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe it would drop the key if you offered it some more berries.
Heather Warde (Heatherw)
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 1:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Please be sure to hold onto the rope close enough to the bird so that it cannot fly back up to its nest before we figure this out.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 7:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dean: There are still some commands to try!
Trav: Yes, that is true...
We still don’t know what “skaw” and “yub” mean. Maybe one could be a drop command? Trav: Could this be the case? Let's find out...

"Skaw!"

The bird dropped the key into my open hand!

Now of course this will all be quite disappointing if the key does not fit into the lock in the door...but it does! The door opens easily to reveal a large open field. There is a helicopter parked about a hundred feet away, and the man in the Hawaiian shirt is standing next to it applauding. "Great work!" he yells, "I guess you finally figured out that the bird would bring you the key, but you had to summon him back after you sent him to get it. We worked hard at training that bird, but you surprised us by getting through the Gorilla Room so quickly - we still don't know where that ape is! Anyway, congratulations on a job well-done. Let us know when you're ready for the next Adventure, as I am in the process of setting it up right now."

With that, the man climbs up into the helicopter as the rotors begin to turn. Soon it is in the air and out of sight.

You guys were invaluable at getting me out of that maze, especially that last room (I am glad that I didn't have to try covering the bird's eyes and trying to pry that key loose). I'm going to rest my brain and body before heading off to the next adventure...


Ixoye: Nice job all players, and I'm glad some new puzzlers were able to join in! Watch for the 3rd installment soon.
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 2:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I guess we can now say...

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