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Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 8:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A French-Portugese couple visiting my parents in New York in the 1970's got the impression that America was a much more religious country than it actually was. How come?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 8:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they see lots of religious icons everywhere?
Is this a town with a church on every corner (like Salt Lake City)?
Are you referring to New York, New York?
Were there lots of protests going on?
Anything to do with a political contraversy?
Any major publicity stunts happening then?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 8:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 08:26 pm:

Did they see lots of religious icons everywhere?noish
Is this a town with a church on every corner (like Salt Lake City)? yes
Are you referring to New York, New York? yes, but muy parents also took them upstate & elsewhere in the Northeast (not a particularly religious part of America
Were there lots of protests going on? no
Anything to do with a political contraversy? no
Any major publicity stunts happening then? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 8:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were people behaving more religiously than usual?
Did they mistake something they saw for something religious? something they heard?
Language relevant? Their nationality relevant?
Could this happen today?
Ostap Bender (Ostap)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 9:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant that the couple was French & Portuguese?
French language relevant? Portuguese language?
Relevant that the French word for God is very similar to the Portuguese word (Dieu - Deu)?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 4:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 08:37 pm:

Were people behaving more religiously than usual? no
Did they mistake something they saw for something religious? yes something they heard? no
Language relevant? well, it was in English Their nationality relevant?just that thry're not Americans
Could this happen today? I'm unsure. It's certainly less likely

By Ostap Bender (Ostap) on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 09:33 am:

Relevant that the couple was French & Portuguese? just that they're not American
French language relevant? no Portuguese language? no
Relevant that the French word for God is very similar to the Portuguese word (Dieu - Deu)? no
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 4:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they reach this conclusion from seeing references to God everywhere? (e.g. on all the money)
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 5:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

good one, Buzzard!!!:O
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 6:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It seems far too easy to be the right answer to a Felicia Nimue puzzle, but it's worth ruling out, at least...
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 6:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It does seem a good shot :) The only problem I can see is that they still have "In God We Trust" on the money today - but I'm not offering more than 5-4 against.
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 6:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since you mention it, woubit...

Is it relevant that this happened in the 1970s? Could a similar thing happen today?
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 6:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Never mind. :) Missed that this had been asked already.
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 9:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 04:57 pm:

Did they reach this conclusion from seeing references to God everywhere? noish (e.g. on all the money) definitely not on money

By Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters) on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 05:56 pm:

good one, Buzzard!!!

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 06:15 pm:

It seems far too easy to be the right answer to a Felicia Nimue puzzle, but it's worth ruling out, at least... As you must have noticed, I'm a lousy judge of what's going to be a hard puzzle


By David Burn (Woubit) on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 06:31 pm:

It does seem a good shot The only problem I can see is that they still have "In God We Trust" on the money today - but I'm not offering more than 5-4 against.Buzzard's idea is clever( of course:):)!! but Woubit is right--the matter of religious slogans on money hasn't changed in the last 30 years

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 06:38 pm:

Since you mention it, woubit...
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 9:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

the thing they saw - was it writing?
was it a kind of building? a sign? a road sign?
did they see a symbol they mistook for a religious symbol?
was it an advert? is there a particular relevant word here?

is it relevant which religion they thought was common? christianity?

could this only happen in America? could it happen in the UK?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 09:13 pm:

the thing they saw - was it writing? yes
was it a kind of building? see next answer a sign? sign on a building"a road sign? no
did they see a symbol they mistook for a religious symbol?it was just words
was it an advert? no is there a particular relevant word here? yes

is it relevant which religion they thought was common? see next answer christianity? I know oit would work for Christianity; I'm not sure if it would work for other religions (probably)

could this only happen in America? I doubt it could it happen in the UK? In proinciple, sure. In fact, I don't know
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it just one building that they saw that gave them this impression? a small number? many? If more than one: were the words involved the same in each case?

Did they walk past the Broadway theater that was performing Jesus Christ Superstar?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:24 pm:

Was it just one building that they saw that gave them this impression? no a small number? many? If they drove through New York State & New England, probabvly about 5-10 more than one: were the words involved the same in each case? yes

Did they walk past the Broadway theater that was performing Jesus Christ Superstar? another clever idea, but no
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Exxon?
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 3:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

anything to do with taking an oath ? "In God, we trust ???"
morning prayers ?
praying before eating the evening meal ?
Ian (Image)
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 8:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How many words on the sign? (Please refer to the LTPF list of positive integers)

Was the sign outside of some franchise/chain? Which is why they saw it multiple times?

Date relevant?

Outside a building... an office building? A restaraunt? A store? A home/apartment building? A church? A bar? Other?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 3:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think David's got it--reminds me of one of Asimov's bits.
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 3:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the visitors speak English? Well? Is this relevant?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 9:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:56 pm:

Exxon? no

By Kapil Kapur (Dinkie) on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 03:32 pm:

anything to do with taking an oath ? no "In God, we trust ???" no
morning prayers ? no
praying before eating the evening meal ? no

By Ian (Image) on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 08:04 pm:

How many words on the sign? (Please refer to the LTPF list of positive integers) 2

Was the sign outside of some franchise/chain? yes Which is why they saw it multiple times? yes

Date relevant? not the exact date, but I don't think this particular chain still exists

Outside a building... an office building? no A restaraunt? noA store? yes A home/apartment building? no A church? no A bar? no Other? no

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 03:31 pm:

I think David's got it--reminds me of one of Asimov's bits.No, he didn't :):):):)!!!!

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 03:47 pm:

Did the visitors speak English? yes Well? yes Is this relevant? yes

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Kristoffer Dominique Albeus (Kristoffer)
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 5:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

any noun on the phrase? pronoun? adjective? verb? adverb? preposition? conjunction? interjection?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 7:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Kristoffer Dominique Albeus (Kristoffer) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 05:36 pm:

any noun on the phrase? pronoun? adjective? verb? adverb? preposition? conjunction? interjection? Both words are nouns, but the first functions as an adjective
Mezzoforte (Mezzoforte)
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 7:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the first a participle? present or past?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 9:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mezzoforte (Mezzoforte) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 07:53 pm:

Is the first a participle? no present or past? no
Ian (Image)
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 9:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the words the name of the chain? A motto/slogan?

Does the store sell clothes? Food? Tools? Other?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 9:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bottle redemption?
Kristoffer Dominique Albeus (Kristoffer)
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

the first one a proper one? like a country or nationality?

do the words have anything to do with food? place? name? event? time? tangible object? idea?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 7:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

y Ian (Image) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 09:35 pm:

Are the words the name of the chain? yope{ A motto/slogan? no

Does the store sell clothes? Food? Tools? Other? all listed but food

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 09:55 pm:

Bottle redemption?See below

By Kristoffer Dominique Albeus (Kristoffer) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:17 pm:

the first one a proper one? no like a country or nationality? no

do the words have anything to do with food? no place? yesish name? no event? yesishtime? tangible object? noidea? yope

Mosquitro is close enough for me to declare a
** SPOILER ************
When a French-Portugese couple who spoke good but unidiomatic English & knew little about American culture visited my parents in the 1970's they kept seeing signs that said, "Redemption Center." "Is that a religious organization?" they asked.It was S&H green stamps, trading stamps some stores gave in the mid-twentieth century that could be redeemed for various goods. Sorry it was so easy & please check out my new, harder one at the bottom of the page.
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 8:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh my goodness, I remember S&H Green Stamps!

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