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Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 11:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The evidence for millions of murders is destroyed in moments. How?

I won't be able to respond till Monday, but don't let that keep you from working on it over the weekend!
:O:O:O
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 12:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The DNA lab gets blown up?
Ian (Image)
Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 1:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There was a book-burning?

Was the evidence intentionally destroyed? By the murderers? Was there only one murderer? If, not, how many?
for(int i = 0; i < 1000000; i++){
System.out.println( i + "?");
}
Were the murderers human? Were the victoms human?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 1:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you talking about the evidence for millions of murders all at once? Or does it happen individually, millions of times? Does the evidence that is destroyed comprise all of the evidence left?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 8:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A key document in the holocaust (or other genocide) gets destroyed?
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 10:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ed Mason (Logician) on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 12:00 am:


The DNA lab gets blown up? no, but I like that one just as much as my idea. :O

By Ian (Image) on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 01:16 am:


There was a book-burning? not this

Was the evidence intentionally destroyed? yopeBy the murderers? yesishWas there only one murderer? If, not, how many? for this instance, one murderer
for(int i = 0; i < 1000000; i++){
System.out.println( i + "?");}
SYNTAX ERROR:QUESTIONER TOO ADVANCED FOR PUZZLE HOST!

Were the murderers human? yes Were the victoms human? NO!:O

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 01:05 am:


Are you talking about the evidence for millions of murders all at once? Yes Or does it happen individually, millions of times? yesish :O Does the evidence that is destroyed comprise all of the evidence left? yope

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 08:45 am:


A key document in the holocaust (or other genocide) gets destroyed? not in this puzzle, at least...
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 10:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the murder victims microbes?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 1:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did someone tread on a petri dish destroying the millions of bacteria therein and then they disposed of the shoes they were wearing?

Are the victims:
microbes?
insects?
water creatures?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 1:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Whoops - I only just noticed Mosquito's question above - sorry!

Were the victims mosquitos? :-)
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 9:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 10:18 am:


Are the murder victims microbes? YES

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 01:08 pm:


Did someone tread on a petri dish destroying the millions of bacteria therein and then they disposed of the shoes they were wearing? again, I like that answer just as much as mine...:O) but no :(

Are the victims:
microbes?
insects?
water creatures? see above

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 01:09 pm:


Whoops - I only just noticed Mosquito's question above - sorry!

Were the victims mosquitos? :-)
no:O
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 11:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they killed by a drug? By another microbe? By antibacterial soap? Regular soap? By heat? Cold? Sunshine? A chemical?

By physical means (e.g.crushing, rubbing etc.)?
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 11:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 11:07 pm:


Were they killed by a drug? By another microbe? By antibacterial soap? Regular soap? By heat? <===this one Cold? Sunshine? A chemical? no to the rest

By physical means (e.g.crushing, rubbing etc.)?
no to no-ish, but may mislead
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the heat applied in an oven, toaster or similar? In a sterilising apparatus?

By an iron? a hair dryer? Was it fire?

What temperature were the microbes heated to --
-272 (insert integers) - 100,000 degrees?
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 3:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:14 am:


Was the heat applied in an oven, toaster or similar? This one! In a sterilising apparatus? ...so, not this one.

By an iron? a hair dryer? Was it fire? see above

What temperature were the microbes heated to --
-272 (insert integers) - 100,000 degrees? see above... probably 350-400 degrees Fahrenheit

...not much longer now....
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 4:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

death through food poisoning averted through heating of food ?
Tom Trapmel (Trapmel80)
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 5:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Boiling water turned into a steam and consequently dissapeared?
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 6:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Kapil Kapur (Dinkie) on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 04:36 pm:


death through food poisoning averted through heating of food ?

By Tom Trapmel (Trapmel80) on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 05:22 pm:


Boiling water turned into a steam and consequently dissapeared?

no and FA to the above... I'm afraid these answers are in the wrong forests... :( although the steam idea is very innovative! BONUS POINTS for the idea!:O
Tom Trapmel (Trapmel80)
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 4:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the heat applied in a device which is usually used in a kitchen? Grill?
If not in the kitchen - in a bathroom? other room? a house? a flat? cellar? attic?
In an industrial place? Like factory? Power station? Mine? Steelworks? Nuclear power station?
A trading place? Like shop?
An entertaining establishment? Like cinema? Footbal stadium?
Is this device used indoor? outdoor?
Did/Could in happen in Europe? Asia? America? which one? Did/Could it happen in any country?
In a city/town? Village? Deserted area? Specially projected and built place?
On Earth?

The heat was from a liquid? gas? solid substance? a combination? which ones?

Was the murder done intentionaly?
The evidence was intentionaly destroyed. Does it mean that the ones who destroyed it knew that it is an evidence and it was better to destroy it or they destroyed it because they wanted simply to get rid of it since it was needles to them?
Evidence destroyed by humans different than the murderers? Murderer(s)? Microbes?
Was the evidence a gas? a liquid? a solid substance? a combination (which ones?)
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 11:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tom Trapmel (Trapmel80) on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 04:20 pm:


Was the heat applied in a device which is usually used in a kitchen? yes Grill? no, but...
If not in the kitchen - in a bathroom? other room? a house? a flat? cellar? attic?
In an industrial place? Like factory? Power station? Mine? Steelworks? Nuclear power station?
A trading place? Like shop?
An entertaining establishment? Like cinema? Footbal stadium? {possible in all the above, I suppose, but more likely in some than others}
Is this device used indoor? mostly this one outdoor? but sometimes this one too
Did/Could in happen in Europe? Asia? America? which one? Did/Could it happen in any country? just about anywhere
In a city/town? Village? Deserted area? Specially projected and built place?
On Earth? yes to a faint yope (the yope is for amusement upon reading afterwards more than for the purposes of solving....)

The heat was from a liquid? gas? solid substance? a combination? which ones? any of the above individually could be considered correct. There is more than one way to correctly answer this, and I don't want to mislead you too badly}

Was the murder done intentionaly? yesish
The evidence was intentionaly destroyed. yesish Does it mean that the ones who destroyed it knew that it is an evidence and it was better to destroy it or they destroyed it because they wanted simply to get rid of it since it was needles to them? no to noish for both
Evidence destroyed by humans different than the murderers? yope Murderer(s)? yopeMicrobes? The only microbes relevant were the ones murdered Was the evidence a gas? directly this a liquid? a solid substance? but indirectly, but more conspicuously, this one a combination (which ones?) see previous two questions
Tom Trapmel (Trapmel80)
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

this device, is it a radiator? a heater? a burner (for heating pans, pots etc.)?
roasting-spit? (or a broach, a barbecue?)
Is it used usualy for heating the air? different gas? food (that people eat)? meat? bread? veg? other solid substance? liquid?
could the murderer(s) be accused for this murder in a court?
relevant occupation, sex, age of the murderers and not-murderers(the other evidence destroyers)?
relevant a type of gas which was the evidence?
they burned that gas down?

You answered:
Was the evidence a gas? directly this a solid substance? but indirectly, but more conspicuously, this one - does it mean that this solid substance was looking/behaving/working different that usual because of this gas, right?
This solid substance is a human being? sth made of steel, glass, wood, plastic, other artificial stuff, other natural stuff?
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 3:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tom Trapmel (Trapmel80) on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 11:22 am:


this device, is it a radiator? a heater? a burner (for heating pans, pots etc.)?
roasting-spit? (or a broach, a barbecue?)
Is it used usualy for heating the air? different gas? food (that people eat)? meat? bread? <(===this one!!! veg? other solid substance? liquid?
could the murderer(s) be accused for this murder in a court? no--good question!
relevant occupation, sex, age of the murderers and not-murderers(the other evidence destroyers)? no
relevant a type of gas which was the evidence? noish
they burned that gas down? no

You answered:
Was the evidence a gas? directly this a solid substance? but indirectly, but more conspicuously, this one - does it mean that this solid substance was looking/behaving/working different that usual because of this gas, right? yesish, heavy on the -ish, but probably not quite what you're thinking
This solid substance is a human being? sth made of steel, glass, wood, plastic, other artificial stuff, other natural stuff? 'other natural stuff' is probably closest...
Rachel (Myth)
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

microbes were yeast bacteria then? solid substance was bread?
(forgive me if I'm confused)
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Rachel (Myth) on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 04:39 pm:


microbes were yeast bacteria then? solid substance was bread? YES! Exactly so!
(forgive me if I'm confused)

so, now it's a short hop to finish it off by answering how the evidence was destroyed.
Tom Trapmel (Trapmel80)
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 1:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well done Rachel!
So, by destroying the evidence you mean the bread was eaten: some parts of that eaten bread turned into energy, some -- the needless ones -- were a s h i t flushed in a toilet. And the oven was cooled down - the heat was over.
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 6:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

***SPOILER*** see below

By Tom Trapmel (Trapmel80) on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 01:35 pm:


Well done Rachel! I agree heartily!:O:O:O

So, by destroying the evidence you mean the bread was eaten: <===this one, and that's what I was looking for! some parts of that eaten bread turned into energy, some -- the needless ones -- were a s h i t flushed in a toilet. And the oven was cooled down - the heat was over. but this is quite creative as well. **BONUS POINTS**

Millions of murders of yeast cells were committed when the bread was baked. The evidence (the bread, including the dead bodies themselves and the air pockets containing the CO2 byproduct of the yeast's metabolism), was all destroyed when it was eaten. Excellent work!

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