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Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Difficulty: Easy

Type: Based on true story

Story: There is a car in the forest with two people sitting inside. There are neither roads nor paths in the forest.

To Solve: How comes?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 2:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the car fall from the sky?
Is it a model car with model people?
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 6:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the car fall from the sky? No
Is it a model car No with model people? No
Blake Lancaster (Blanky2)
Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 8:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Real car (full-size automobile)? Real people (human)? Are the people alive?

Have the people been in the car more than a year? Month? Week? Day?
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 8:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Real car (full-size automobile)?Yes
Real people (human)?Yes
Are the people alive? No

Have the people been in the car more than a year? Month? Week? Day? more than a year
Blake Lancaster (Blanky2)
Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 8:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the car wrecked? Was there at one time a path/road into the forest, that has been covered up over time?
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 8:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the car wrecked? Yes
Was there at one time a path/road into the forest, that has been covered up over time? No
Blake Lancaster (Blanky2)
Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 9:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the car driven into the forest on the ground? Was the car driven off the cliff (or similar) into the forest? Placed in the forest by someone else?

Are the people in the driver seat and passenger seat? If so, did the person in the drivers seat make the car go into the forest? By driving the car?
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the car driven into the forest on the ground?Yope
Was the car driven off the cliff (or similar) into the forest?No
Placed in the forest by someone else? Yes
Are the people in the driver seat and passenger seat Yes
If so, did the person in the drivers seat make the car go into the forest?No...
By driving the car?...No
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 9:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the forest already there when the car got to its current position?
Has the car been towed there?
Were the people in the car when it was being moved there? Were they already dead then? Did they die in the car?
Did someone want to get rid of the car?
Was there a crime? Was there an accident?
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 9:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the forest already there when the car got to its current position? Yes
Has the car been towed there? Yes
Were the people in the car when it was being moved there?No
Were they already dead then? When the care was moved there? Unimportant
Did they die in the car? No
Did someone want to get rid of the car? No
Was there a crime? No
Was there an accident? No
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 2:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the corpses put into the car by someone else? Did they enter the car through the door? window? trunk? roof? Relevant?
Was there a sunroof? Was the car a convertible?
Did they die of age? illness? by accident? murder? suicide? Relevant?
Was the car towed by people? animals? a machine?
Is the type of car relevant? is it a catafalque?
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 3:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the corpses put into the car by someone else? Yes
Did they enter the car through the door? window? trunk? roof? Relevant? They were probably put into the car through the door, but irrelevant
Was there a sunroof? Irrelevant Was the car a convertible? Irrelevant
Did they die of age? illness? by accident? murder? suicide? Relevant? Irrelevant
Was the car towed by people? This one animals? a machine?
Is the type of car relevant? No is it a catafalque? Irrelevant
Blake Lancaster (Blanky2)
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 5:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the people who towed the car and put the corpses in the car know the deceased? Relatives? Friends? Strangers?

Did the deceased want to be laid to rest in the car?
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 5:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had the people just died when they were put in the car? Were they dead for more than a day? more than a week? more than a year? Were they mummified? skeletons?

Did the corpses smell? Were there maggots?
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 5:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the people who towed the car and put the corpses in the car know the deceased?No
Relatives? Friends? Strangers? Call them strangers
Did the deceased want to be laid to rest in the car?Yope

Had the people just died when they were put in the car? Were they dead for more than a day? more than a week? more than a year? Were they mummified? skeletons? just died and not conserved
Did the corpses smell?Likely but unimportant
Were there maggots?Yes
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 5:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In Addition:

Had the people just died when they were put in the car? Were they dead for more than a day? more than a week? more than a year? well, to make it more concrete: some days, maybe a week
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 12:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the corpses put into the car, so that the maggots were confined there?

Was somebody afraid of maggots?
Were the maggots dangerous?
Did somebody want to "cultivate" maggots (yuck... but some cultures think of them as a delicatesse)?

Are the maggots relevant at all?
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 2:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the corpses put into the car, so that the maggots were confined there? No or FA

Was somebody afraid of maggots? No
Were the maggots dangerous? No
Did somebody want to "cultivate" maggots (yuck... but some cultures think of them as a delicatesse)? Yope

Are the maggots relevant at all? Yesish
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the car closed? open? Is this relevant?
Is the temperature inside the car relevant?
Is there anything relevant inside the car besides the two dead bodies being eaten away by maggots and maybe other vermin?
Did someone want the maggots to eat the flesh of the dead bodies?
Is the time and place of this setting relevant?
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 3:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the car closed? open? Is this relevant? not relevant
Is the temperature inside the car relevant? Noish
Is there anything relevant inside the car besides the two dead bodies being eaten away by maggots and maybe other vermin? No
Did someone want the maggots to eat the flesh of the dead bodies? Yesish
Is the time and place of this setting relevant?Time: No, Place: Yes
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 3:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Europe? America? Asia? Africa? Australia?
Northern hemisphere?
Large forest? Small forest? Jungle? National Park? Town/city park?
Climate relevant?
Inhabitants of the region relevant? Their culture relevant?
Did the people who put the corpses into the car live inside the forest? nearby the forest?
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 6:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Europe? America? This one (US) Asia? Africa? Australia?
Northern hemisphere?

Large forest? Small forest? This one Jungle? National Park? Town/city park?
Climate relevant? No
Inhabitants of the region relevant? Their culture relevant? No
Did the people who put the corpses into the car live inside the forest? No nearby the forest? Maybe but irrelevant
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 6:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does anyone besides the person or persons who physically towed the car into the woods know that the bodies are there?
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 6:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does anyone besides the person or persons who physically towed the car into the woods know that the bodies are there? Yes
Kitral Solane (Solane)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 9:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it widely known that the bodies are there?

Known by {insert list of numbers} people?

What state relevent?

Coniferous or decidious?

Maggots supposed to get rid of the 'evidence' of the bodies or make them otherwise indistinguishable?
Kitral Solane (Solane)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How did the car get wreaked?

That's not a yes or no question. And the spelling is awful.

Oops... Relevent that the car was wreaked? Or just that it was being towed because it was wreaked?(If, perchance, that was why it was being towed.)

If a lot of people knew about this situation, would thay find it interesting? Disgusting? Acceptable? Crazy? Mildly intriguing? Not worth mentioning?
(Assuming that alot of people don't already know...)
Kitral Solane (Solane)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How did the car get wreaked?

That's not a yes or no question. And the spelling is awful.

Oops... Relevent that the car was wreaked? Or just that it was being towed because it was wreaked?(If, perchance, that was why it was being towed.)

If a lot of people knew about this situation, would thay find it interesting? Disgusting? Acceptable? Crazy? Mildly intriguing? Not worth mentioning?
(Assuming that alot of people don't already know...)
Kitral Solane (Solane)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 9:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry, double post on accident.

It'd so frustrating when you know you're spelling a word wrong, but you can't figure out how to spell it right.
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 9:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it widely known that the bodies are there? Yes
Known by many people? It's no secret and it was in the media
What state relevent? No
Coniferous or decidious? doesn't matter
Maggots supposed to get rid of the 'evidence' of the bodies or make them otherwise indistinguishable? Noish


Oops... Relevent that the car was wreaked? Or just that it was being towed because it was wreaked?(If, perchance, that was why it was being towed.) It could be every car but a wreked one makes more sense

If a lot of people knew about this situation, would thay find it interesting? Disgusting? Acceptable? Crazy? Mildly intriguing? Not worth mentioning? Many people know it and they would call it interesting and acceptable
Virendra Pratap Singh (Emptyhead)
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 11:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maggots being grown on corpses!!!!
Is it a part of some forensic experiment? Some other kind of experiment?
Were the deaths of those two people lawful ? I mean they died of natural causes?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 12:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Check your e-mail, please, SoBS.

And the spelling you're looking for is w-r-e-c-k-e-d.
Kitral Solane (Solane)
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 1:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If the dead people were asked before they died, would they agree to what was happening?

Did they ask for it to happen, like donate their bodies?
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 1:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well done Emptyhead and Rabrab


***** SPOILER *****

The forest is a place called "Body Farm" (Knoxville, Tennessee) which is a mixture of a graveyard and a lab.
A man called Dr. Bass has placed human corpses there (burried, in plastic bags, in a lake or in a car) and obsverves them rotting. The results of his studies may help the police to find out the time somebody died etc.
The people which are lying there decided to give there copses to the Body Farm before they died.


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