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Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 8:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rosabel bought a book she didn't want, either for herself or to give to anyone else. She bought the book because she was fat, but the book's subject matter is irrelevant. How come????
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 10:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Which of the following is relevant: the book's age? its author(s)? the laguage it's written in? whether it's hardback or paperback? the design of the cover?
whether it was new or second hand? the place where she bought it? the person she bought it from? another person? the money she spent on it? what she did with it after she bought it?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 10:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 10:16 pm:

Which of the following is relevant: the book's age? no its author(s)? no the laguage it's written in? no whether it's hardback or paperback? no the design of the cover? no
whether it was new or second hand? no the place where she bought it? somewhat the person she bought it from? no another person? no the money she spent on it? no what she did with it after she bought it? no
John Faben (Bentarm)
Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 11:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the size of the book relevant? The weight?
Could a different book of roughly the same size and weight serve the same purpose?
Could a lump of wood of roughly the same size and weight as the book?

Is the author of the book relevant?
If Rosabel had not been fat would she: have bought a different book? have bought something else? not bought anything at all?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By John Faben (Bentarm) on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 11:08 pm:

Is the size of the book relevant? no The weight? no
Could a different book of roughly the same size and weight serve the same purpose? yes
Could a lump of wood of roughly the same size and weight as the book? possibly

Is the author of the book relevant? no
If Rosabel had not been fat would she: have bought a different book? no have bought something else? no not bought anything at all? yes
John Faben (Bentarm)
Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 11:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Could a different book of an entirely different size and weight have served the same purpose?
Could a different book have served the same purpose if: she had bought it from a different shop? she had used a different method of payment? she had been served by a different person in the shop?
Did she buy the book in a shop? Online?

The relevant part about her being fat - her size? her weight? any social implications? health implications? aesthetic implications? Did she want to lose weight?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 6:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is she going to read it?
is anyone going to read it?
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 1:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the book store on the 5th floor (give or take a few floors) and she had to use the stairs to go up there - and thus got some exercise?
Did she buy the book as a sign of success ("I've walked/jogged/run all the way to Bla - this is my proof!")?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 9:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she get a receipt when she bought the book?
Is that relevant?
Is Rosa someone famous? A criminal on the loose/fugitive?
Is Rosa's age relevant? Height? Financial status? Occupation? Hobbies?
Is she alone when she purchases the book?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 2:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In doing this was her motivation:

To improve her health?
To reduce her weight?
To improve her fitness?
To read the book?
To learn something?
For financial reasons?
For financial gain?
Out of love?
Out of fear?
Out of need?
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did she buy the book to make something good happen? to her? to someone else?
did she buy it to stop something bad happening? to her? to someone else?

did she gain a benefit by buying it? more than actually having the book? did she somehow prevent herself losing a benefit?

could she have achieved her objective by stealing the book instead? or by someone else buying it for her? or if the shopkeeper had, for some reason, just given her the book?

relevant what time of day she buys the book? relevant how she pays for it? by credit card? cash?

does buying th book somehow prove something? does it send dome sort of signal to someone?

is it necessary that someone else knows she has bought the book for her objective to be obtained? is it necessary that someone else should see her buy the book?

does she buy it secretly? openly?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 4:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she buy it to avoid embarrassment/condemnation/unwanted advice?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 10:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Faben (Bentarm) on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 11:57 pm:

Could a different book of an entirely different size and weight have served the same purpose? yes
Could a different book have served the same purpose if: she had bought it from a different shop? yes she had used a different method of payment? yes she had been served by a different person in the shop? yes
Did she buy the book in a shop? yes Online? no--the puzzle would not work if she had bought it online

The relevant part about her being fat - her size? see next answer her weight? ditto any social implications? yeshealth implications? noish aesthetic implications? yesDid she want to lose weight?yesish

By Benjamin Moore (Zenith) on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 06:25 am:

is she going to read it? irrel
is anyone going to read it? ditto

By Christiane Scharf (0815) on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 01:24 pm:

Was the book store on the 5th floor (give or take a few floors) and she had to use the stairs to go up there - and thus got some exercise? no
Did she buy the book as a sign of success ("I've walked/jogged/run all the way to Bla - this is my proof!")? no

By Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 09:20 pm:

Did she get a receipt when she bought the book? irrel
Is that relevant no
Is Rosa someone famous? no A criminal on the loose/fugitive? no. Rosa is me, when I was fat
Is Rosa's age relevant? no Height? no Financial status? no--except that she's not so poor that purchasing an unwanted book would cause financial hardship} Occupation? no Hobbies? no
Is she alone when she purchases the book? yes

By Paul Sloane (Admin) on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 02:21 pm:
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Paul Sloane (Admin) on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 02:21 pm:

In doing this was her motivation:

To improve her health? no
To reduce her weight? no
To improve her fitness? no
To read the book? no
To learn something? no
For financial reasons? no
For financial gain? no
Out of love? no
Out of fear? yope
Out of need? no

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 06:16 pm:

did she buy the book to make something good happen?see next answers to her? ditto to someone else? ditto
did she buy it to stop something bad happening? yes to her? yope to someone else?yope

did she gain a benefit by buying it?yope more than actually having the book? yes did she somehow prevent herself losing a benefit? yope

could she have achieved her objective by stealing the book instead? yope or by someone else buying it for her? yes or if the shopkeeper had, for some reason, just given her the book? yes

relevant what time of day she buys the book? no relevant how she pays for it? no by credit card? irrel cash? ditto

does buying th book somehow prove something? no does it send dome sort of signal to someone? no

is it necessary that someone else knows she has bought the book for her objective to be obtained? no is it necessary that someone else should see her buy the book? no

does she buy it secretly? no openly? yes

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 04:04 pm:

Did she buy it to avoid embarrassment/ yopecondemnation yope/unwanted advice? yope
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 12:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is she at the book store in order to spend time there? Does she avoid being somewhere else?

Did she come to town with friends? Are her friends at a different shop? at a clothes shop?
Kitral Solane (Solane)
Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 8:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she buy the book for the weight of it?

Would a different sized, shaped, weighted book have served her purpose?

Did she have a purpose for the book?

Like maybe if she's on a scale she could say 'Oh, I have a book in here, take off x pounds."
Kitral Solane (Solane)
Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 9:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Book relevent at all?
Her purpose for it relevent?
Robin Smith
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 12:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she *use* the book as soon as she bought it?
Was the book ever opened?
kate e
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 3:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

kinda abstract but did did she sit on the book not seeing it and the "shopkeeper" made her pay for it due to damage?!?!
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Christiane Scharf (0815) on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 12:44 pm:

Is she at the book store in order to spend time there? no Does she avoid being somewhere else? no

Did she come to town with friends? irrel Are her friends at a different shop? ditto at a clothes shop? ditto

By Kitral Solane (Solane) on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 08:50 pm:

Did she buy the book for the weight of it? no

Would a different sized, shaped, weighted book have served her purpose?yes

Did she have a purpose for the book? noish

Like maybe if she's on a scale she could say 'Oh, I have a book in here, take off x pounds." no

By Kitral Solane (Solane) on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 09:46 pm:

Book relevent at all?Please clarify. The sub ject matter & size are irrelevant}
Her purpose for it relevent? noish
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Robin Smith on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 12:16 pm:

Did she *use* the book as soon as she bought it? irrel
Was the book ever opened? ditto

By kate e on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 03:18 pm:

kinda abstract but did did she sit on the book not seeing it and the "shopkeeper" made her pay for it due to damage?!?! noooo

By Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 -
Laura Kozma (Lkozma)
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Was she planning to eat in a public place? Was she alone?
Julia Ivancenco (Redgirl)
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Did she buy the book in oder to avoid a conversation? Or get into a conversation? Did she fancy the shopkeeper? ;)

Would a newspaper have served the purpose? A CD? Is just the act of buying relevant?

Was she depressed coz of her overweight and decided to go on a shopping tour to get rid of frustration?

Is something which happened before she went into the shop relevant? Or after she left?

Did she spontaneously decide to buy the book?

Other people relevantly involved in the story? People present in the shop? Other people (family/friends/enemies...)?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 9:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Laura Kozma (Lkozma) on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 10:05 pm:

Was she planning to eat in a public place? irrel Was she alone? yope

By Julia Ivancenco (Redgirl) on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 11:43 am:

Did she buy the book in oder to avoid a conversation? yope Or get into a conversation? no Did she fancy the shopkeeper? no ;)

Would a newspaper have served the purpose? yes A CD? yes Is just the act of buying relevant? yes.

Was she depressed coz of her overweight and decided to go on a shopping tour to get rid of frustration? no

Is something which happened before she went into the shop relevant? no Or after she left? no

Did she spontaneously decide to buy the book? yope

Other people relevantly involved in the story? yes People present in the shop? yes Other people (family no/friends possibly/enemies no...)?
Dena Elbling (Ladyzinga)
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would it have been obvious to the other shop patrons why she bought the book?

(i hope no one asked that already)
Robin Smith
Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 7:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the book bought to influence one person's opinion? or many?
Tigrebianca
Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the book a recipe book?

Have she bought it for the person that usually makes lunchs/dinners for her?

Does she hope another person will use the book to make her less fat?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 8:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Dena Elbling (Ladyzinga) on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 02:03 am:

would it have been obvious to the other shop patrons why she bought the book? no

(i hope no one asked that already)

By Robin Smith on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 07:18 pm:

Was the book bought to influence one person's opinion? no or many? no

By Tigrebianca on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 12:27 pm:

Was the book a recipe book? irrel

Have she bought it for the person that usually makes lunchs/dinners for her? no

Does she hope another person will use the book to make her less fat? no
Laura Kozma (Lkozma)
Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there someone in the store that was bothering her in some way? Bothering her about her weight?
Julia Ivancenco (Redgirl)
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, the other people involved:

1 person? 2? More?
Male / female?
Age relevant? Weight relevant?

Did that person say something? Do something?

Is that person another customer? Or an employee there?
Tigrebianca
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 10:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she decided to buy a book before entering the shop? A particular book? That particular book?

Does the shop only sell books?

Was she going to buy something she didn't want other people to know she bought it?

Have she found, in the shop, someone she knows that usually picks on her beacuse she is fat?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 9:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Laura Kozma (Lkozma) on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:31 pm:

Was there someone in the store that was bothering her in some way?no Bothering her about her weight? no

By Julia Ivancenco (Redgirl) on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 08:20 am:

Ok, the other people involved:

1 person? 2? More? more
Male / female? irrel but probably both
Age relevant? yes Weight relevant? no

Did that person say something? no Do something? yope

Is that person another customer? no Or an employee there? yes

By Tigrebianca on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 10:09 am:

Did she decided to buy a book before entering the shop? no A particular book? no That particular book? no

Does the shop only sell books? irrel

Was she going to buy something she didn't want other people to know she bought it? no

Have she found, in the shop, someone she knows that usually picks on her beacuse she is fat? no
Kitral Solane (Solane)
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Did she buy the book from the employee that relevently yopely did something?
Did the yope action directly cause her to buy the book?
Did she buy the book to make a point?
Could she have bought just abount anything else the shop sold with the same result?
Did she get satasfaction directly or indirecly from buying the book?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Kitral Solane (Solane) on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:31 pm:

Did she buy the book from the employee that relevently yopely did something? no
Did the yope action directly cause her to buy the book? yope!!
Did she buy the book to make a point? no
Could she have bought just abount anything else the shop sold with the same result?yope
Did she get satasfaction directly or indirecly from buying the book? yes
Christiane Scharf (0815)
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Did the employee ignore her? Because she was fat?
Did she dislike him?
Did she want to get his attention?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Christiane Scharf (0815) on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 01:03 pm:

Did the employee ignore her? no Because she was fat? N/A
Did she dislike him? no
Did she want to get his attention? no
Laura Kozma (Lkozma)
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Was she trying to avoid him? Was the other person younger than she was? Older? About the same age?

Does she believe that he dislikes fat people? That he likes fat people?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Laura Kozma (Lkozma) on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 08:47 pm:

Was she trying to avoid him? no Was the other person younger than she was? irrel Older? ditto About the same age? ditto

Does she believe that he dislikes fat people? not necessarily That he likes fat people?Remember, more than one employee is involved. For some, the answer is irrel. FDor others, the answer is probably not

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SmarterBrother (Mycroft)
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Did she buy the book just to prove or disprove some prejudicial stereotype the employees have about fat people?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By SmarterBrother (Mycroft) on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 03:05 pm:

Did she buy the book just to prove or disprove some prejudicial stereotype the employees have about fat people? noish

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SmarterBrother (Mycroft)
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Is it relevant whereabouts in the shop the book is located?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By SmarterBrother (Mycroft) on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 12:48 pm:

Is it relevant whereabouts in the shop the book is located? no
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
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Had she entered the shop intending to purchase something? If so, to purchase a book specifically? Does the shop sell food of any kind?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 09:49 pm:

Had she entered the shop intending to purchase something? irrel If so, to purchase a book specifically? irrel Does the shop sell food of any kind? no
SmarterBrother (Mycroft)
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Is it relevant how she paid for the book? With a credit card? Cash? Cheque?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By SmarterBrother (Mycroft) on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 06:02 pm:

Is it relevant how she paid for the book? no With a credit card? irrel Cash? irrel Cheque? irrel
Kitral Solane (Solane)
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Relevent that the shop doesn't sell food?
Did she overhear something an employee said that made her buy the book? Like 'fat people waste all their money on food, they'd never come in a store like this'?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Kitral Solane (Solane) on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 10:32 pm:

Relevent that the shop doesn't sell food? no
Did she overhear something an employee said that made her buy the book? no Like 'fat people waste all their money on food, they'd never come in a store like this'? no--why would that make her buy the book. I used to be fat, & I would not have spent money at a store whose employees insulted me (which never happened that I can recall)
Kitral Solane (Solane)
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To prove them wrong?
Sorry if I ofended you. I had no intention of doing so. I, in fact, am a little more on the large side than I'd like to admit. Much apologies.
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Kitral Solane (Solane) on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 02:10 am:

To prove them wrong?no
Sorry if I ofended you. I had no intention of doing so. I, in fact, am a little more on the large side than I'd like to admit. Much apologies. You didn't offend me AT ALL. After all, you didn't make that crack, you just asked if it was part of the solution to my puzzle. I'd hate to see the forum inhibited by political correctness. By the way, I was so much on the large size that I was about 140 pounds (or 56 kg)overweight. I lost the weight vecause I think the quality of life is MUCH less important than the quantity but I still LOVE to eat cake, cookies,& candy

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Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
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so - was the scenario like this..

she was in a shop for some reason? then an employee did something relevant? or more than one employee did something? that made her decide to purchase something from the shop? and she purchased a book? but it could have been something else? then she left the shop? stayed in the shop? talked to someone?

did she but the book in order to have a conversation? with an employee? did she buy it in order to avoid a conversation? with an employee? was there any relevant non-employee person in the shop? more than one? did she buy the book as a kind of diversion? so that she would not have to meet or talk to someone? so that she could pretend she hadn't seen someone?

you said she bought the book out of fear - yopishly - correct? was it fear of being embarrassed? fear of being the centre of attention? fear of physical harm? fear of an object of some sort? fear of social interaction?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 08:50 pm:

so - was the scenario like this..

she was in a shop for some reason? yes then an employee did something relevant? yope or more than one employee did something? yope that made her decide to purchase something from the shop? yope and she purchased a book? yes but it could have been something else? yes then she left the shop? irrel stayed in the shop? irrel talked to someone? irrel

did she but the book in order to have a conversation? no with an employee? no did she buy it in order to avoid a conversation? yesish with an employee? yesish was there any relevant non-employee person in the shop?probably more than one? dittodid she buy the book as a kind of diversion? no so that she would not have to meet or talk to someone? no so that she could pretend she hadn't seen someone? no

you said she bought the book out of fear - yopishly - correct? yes was it fear of being embarrassed? yews fear of being the centre of attention? no fear of physical harm? no fear of an object of some sort? no fear of social interaction? yope

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John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Does the shop have more than one door? If so, is one door too narrow for her?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 10:55 pm:

Does the shop have more than one door? irrel If so, is one door too narrow for her? no. This puzzle is a true story from my own fat past so I can assure you that even someone who is 140 pounds overweight has no trouble getting through doors
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
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Perhaps she went into Borders for the sole purpose of scoffing cakes and guzzling cappuccinos in their rather nice cafe, but felt obliged to buy a book while she was there, for reasons of etiquette, etc? (I've done that myself)
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
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{Oops. Ignore that. The shop doesn't sell food. I shall think again.)
SmarterBrother (Mycroft)
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Is the size/weight of anyone else in the store relevant?
Sunil Brown
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Can this be solved without finding out the nature of possible embarrassment/condemnation/unwanted advice ?

Did the act of buying from the store eliminate the possible embarrassing situation?

Was the the possible embarrassment related to being overweight? or age?

Did the possibility for embarrassment surface spontaneously or was it something obvious throughout her stay at the store?

Was the embarrassment caused by employees? customers? or both?

Was there any criminal intent/action that is pertinent to solving this problem?
puzz10
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did she try to steal the book??
you said she bought the book out of fear..
did someone threaten??
was it one of the employess??
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Howard Wilde (Woodworm) on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 1:17 pm:  Edit

Perhaps she went into Borders for the sole purpose of scoffing cakes and guzzling cappuccinos in their rather nice cafe, but felt obliged to buy a book while she was there, for reasons of etiquette, etc? no. (I've done that myself) Why? You pay for the cakes, etc., so you're not freeloading
By Howard Wilde (Woodworm) on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 1:21 pm:  Edit

{Oops. Ignore that. The shop doesn't sell food. I shall think again.)
By SmarterBrother (Mycroft) on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 9:17 pm:  Edit

Is the size/weight of anyone else in the store relevant? yes
By Sunil Brown on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 9:55 pm:  Edit

Can this be solved without finding out the nature of possible embarrassment/condemnation/unwanted advice ? no

Did the act of buying from the store eliminate the possible embarrassing situation? yes


Was the the possible embarrassment related to being overweight? yes or age? no
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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Did the possibility for embarrassment surface spontaneously or was it something obvious throughout her stay at the store? the former

Was the embarrassment caused by employees? yes customers? no or both? no

Was there any criminal intent/action that is pertinent to solving this problem? no. Horrors! This is a true story from my fat past!!
By puzz10 on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 9:56 pm:  Edit

did she try to steal the book?? no
you said she bought the book out of fear..
did someone threaten?? no
was it one of the employess?? no
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
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Did she (I shall continue to use third-person, hope you don't mind) recognize the employees for any reason? Had she interacted with them outside of the store? Did she have any kind of relationship with the employees (outside of patron/clerk)?

For example, say she teaches at a local university and has them in one or more of her classes...:-O
rebecca kreisler (Beccaann)
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Can we get a recap please?
Sunil Brown
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was the cause of possible embarrassment accidental or deliberate from employees

did rosa feel the action of employees that may have caused possible embarrasment was unjust/inappropriate after the incident? is this relevant?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 9:02 pm:  Edit

Did she (I shall continue to use third-person, hope you don't mind) recognize the employees for any reason? no Had she interacted with them outside of the store? no Did she have any kind of relationship with the employees (outside of patron/clerk)? no

For example, say she teaches at a local university and has them in one or more of her classes... no
By rebecca kreisler (Beccaann) on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 9:08 pm:  Edit

Can we get a recap please? add the following to the puzzle description: R bought the book partly to avoid embarrassment. An action of one or more employees is relevant, but R. has no relevant relationship with them outaside the store.
By Sunil Brown on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 9:21 pm:  Edit

was the cause of possible embarrassment accidental or deliberate from employeescould be either

did rosa feel the action of employees that may have caused possible embarrasment was unjust/inappropriate after the incident? yesish is this relevant? yope
puzz10
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The embarrassment was caused by the employees..Did she initiate/provoke it by some action while she was in the book store??
did the employees insult/embarrass her by words???
by action???
The employees involved are they male/female?? is this relevant??
Sunil Brown
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did the employees do something unaware of rosa, which she saw and felt would lead to an embarrassment to her?

can the details of embarrassment be directly deduced with information thus far? or is further information needed?

was the action of the employees that could cause embarrassment part of their work duties? or was it committed as part of random socialization?

did the employees action that could cause embarrassment involve anything other than the employees themselves? items on sale? furniture in the store? other items in store? is this relevant?
Tigrebianca
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Was one of the employees way fatter than her?
Did she enter the shop to buy something? Or just to look around? Or to greet someone she knew?
puzz10
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Did she have any belongings/accessories with her when she entered the shop thats relevant to the puzzle??
Is the way she was dressed relevant to the puzzle??
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By puzz10 on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 3:51 pm:  Edit

The embarrassment was caused by the employees..Did she initiate/provoke it by some action while she was in the book store?? yes
did the employees insult/embarrass her by words??? no
by action??? An action set up the situation that had potential for the embarrassment she is buying the book partly to avoid
The employees involved are they male/female?? irrel is this relevant?? no
By Sunil Brown on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 5:06 pm:  Edit

did the employees do something unaware of rosa, which she saw and felt would lead to an embarrassment to her? yope


can the details of embarrassment be directly deduced with information thus far? no or is further information needed? yes

was the action of the employees that could cause embarrassment part of their work duties? no or was it committed as part of random socialization? noish
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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did the employees action that could cause embarrassment involve anything other than the employees themselves? yes items on sale? no furniture in the store? no other items in store? yes is this relevant? yes
By Tigrebianca on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 10:50 am:  Edit

Was one of the employees way fatter than her? irrel
Did she enter the shop to buy something? irrel Or just to look around? irrel Or to greet someone she knew? irrel
By puzz10 on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 4:00 pm:  Edit

Did she have any belongings/accessories with her when she entered the shop thats relevant to the puzzle?? no
Is the way she was dressed relevant to the puzzle?? no
puzz10
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Are only books available in that store?? or is there anything else?? is this relevant..
The other item thats involved is that a book???
Did she point to a particular book and said something that initiated the embarassment???
Sunil Brown
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Was more than one item involved?
Was the item an electrical device?
Was it a decorative item?
Was it a personal item of someone in the store?
Was the item part of office supplies?
Was the item in the shopping area? or in employee-only rooms? or restrooms? other rooms?
Was the item owned by the store?
Was the item brought into the store? by rosa? by employees? by customers?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By puzz10 on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 4:32 am:  Edit

Are only books available in that store?? no or is there anything else?? yes is this relevant.. yes
The other item thats involved is that a book??? no
Did she point to a particular book and said something that initiated the embarassment??? no
By Sunil Brown on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 4:14 pm:  Edit

Was more than one item involved? popssibly
Was the item an electrical device? no
Was it a decorative item? no
Was it a personal item of someone in the store?yope
Was the item part of office supplies? no
Was the item in the shopping area? yes or in employee-only rooms? no or restrooms? no other rooms? no
Was the item owned by the store? no
Was the item brought into the store? yes by rosa? no by employees? yes by customers? no
puzz10
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So did she point to that particular item and said/commented something that initiated the embarassment???
Is that some kind of item which every employee working in that store should have??
is that item related to 'fat', 'weight of a person'??
did rosa wanted to use the time for any reason??
is that item a cheap item or a costly item? Is this relevant?
did rosa has the same item with her,i mean at home???
puzz10
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did rosa have a bet of some kind with any of those employees??
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By puzz10 on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 8:52 pm:  Edit

So did she point to that particular item and said/commented something that initiated the embarassment??? no
Is that some kind of item which every employee working in that store should have?? no
is that item related to 'fat', 'weight of a person'?? yope
did rosa wanted to use the time for any reason??No, but if you mean 'item' instead of 'time,' the answer is yope
is that item a cheap item or a costly item? irrel Is this relevant? no
did rosa has the same item with her,i mean at home???unlikely
By puzz10 on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 9:03 pm:  Edit

did rosa have a bet of some kind with any of those employees?? no
puzz10
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I did mean the item instead of time..:-)
Is the item a food item??
a medcine/pill??
do i need to find what item it is to solve the puzzle??
did she use the item in any way?
The item and the book she bought...are they related in any way at all??
Is the relation relevant to the puzzle??
is the item weigh between 0-5 pounds??5-10? 10-15?15-20??20+ pounds??
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By puzz10 on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 10:08 pm:  Edit

I did mean the item instead of time..:-)
Is the item a food item?? yes
a medcine/pill?? no
do i need to find what item it is to solve the puzzle?? yes
did she use the item in any way? yes
The item and the book she bought...are they related in any way at all?? yes
Is the relation relevant to the puzzle?? yes
is the item weigh between 0-5 pounds??5-10? 10-15?15-20??20+ pounds?? less than five
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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BLOOOOOOOOOOPERRRRRRRALERTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!
Did rosa has the same item with her,i mean at home???unlikely the answer should be possibly
puzz10
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did she buy the book inorder to compensate(pay) for the food(item) that she ate(probably bcos she liked it)???
Sunil Brown
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did she eat the food item? taste it?
did rosa spoil the food item in any way?
did the food item have any meat in it?
was it a desert?
was it candy?
was it gum?
was it a drink? cold? hot? alchoholic?
you say the book is related to the food item. is the book about the history of the food item? how to prepare the food item? how to avoid the item?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By puzz10 on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 10:23 pm:  Edit

did she buy the book inorder to compensate(pay) for the food(item) that she ate(probably bcos she liked it)??? no
By Sunil Brown on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 11:05 pm:  Edit

did she eat the food item? yes taste it? yes
did rosa spoil the food item in any way? no
did the food item have any meat in it? very unlikely
was it a desert?well, it wasn't at the end of a meal, but it was probably the sort of thing someone might have at dessert
was it candy?possibly
was it gum? no
was it a drink? no cold? probably room temp. hot? alchoholic? no
you say the book is related to the food item. is the book about the history of the food item? no how to prepare the food item? no how to avoid the item? no
puzz10
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is the food item a doughnut?
is it a pie/cheesecake/brownie/similar things???
is weighing scale involved in this puzzle??
is there another item involved apart from this item?? if so do we have to find out both the items to solve this puzzle??
is the name of the book relevant???
Is the cover picture of the book relevant??
is the cost of the book relevant??
Christiane Scharf (0815)
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Did she make (chocolate?) stains on the book?
Sunil Brown
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was it chocolate?
was it cake?
was the food item meant for its owner? all employees? all customers? everyone in store?
did rosa finish eating the food item completely?
did she eat the item with the permission of the employee(s)?
did the employees find out that Rosa ate the food item? was it by seeing food on her face? clothes? person? on the book?
was the book she bought sullied in any way before the purchase?
did the employees get upset with Rosa for having eaten the item?
did the employees communicate with Rosa in any way about her eating the food item?
was the book bought in order to make her a paying customer in the eyes of the employees?
Christopher Canfield (Flytomoon)
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Did an employee bump into her? Cause this item to get onto her clothing?

Did the woman buy the book to cover up a stain on her clothing from this item?

Is the item an ice cream cone? A candybar?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By puzz10 on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 4:52 am:  Edit

is the food item a doughnut? unikely
is it a pie/cheesecake/brownie/similar things??? a brownie would be most likely of these
is weighing scale involved in this puzzle?? no
is there another item involved apart from this item?? no if so do we have to find out both the items to solve this puzzle??
is the name of the book relevant??? no
Is the cover picture of the book relevant?? no
is the cost of the book relevant?? no
By Christiane Scharf (0815) on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 8:10 am:  Edit

Did she make (chocolate?) stains on the book? She made food stains, not necessarily chocolate
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Sunil Brown on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 8:54 pm:  Edit

was it chocolate?possibly but not necessarily
was it cake?
was the food item meant for its owner? no all employees? see next answer but one all customers? see next answer everyone in store? yes
did rosa finish eating the food item completely? yes but irrel
did she eat the item with the permission of the employee(s)? yes
did the employees find out that Rosa ate the food item? irrel was it by seeing food on her face? clothes? person? on the book?
was the book she bought sullied in any way before the purchase? yes
did the employees get upset with Rosa for having eaten the item? no
did the employees communicate with Rosa in any way about her eating the food item? no
was the book bought in order to make her a paying customer in the eyes of the employees? no
By Christopher Canfield (Flytomoon) on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 8:46 am:  Edit

Did an employee bump into her? no Cause this item to get onto her clothing? no

Did the woman buy the book to cover up a stain on her clothing from this item? no

Is the item an ice cream cone? no A candybar? not a commercial candybar but could be home,made candy
puzz10
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was the book in the bookcase or was it in the table where she was eating the food??
did she drop some part of the food onto the book??so she was forced to buy the book as she made stains??
do we have enough clues to find the solution to this puzzle?
is the food item a lollipop??
is it milk chocolate??
is it hot fudge?
is it strawberry dipped in chocolate??
is it salt water taffy??
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By puzz10 on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:22 pm:  Edit

was the book in the bookcase or was it in the table where she was eating the food?? the former
did she drop some part of the food onto the book??yes, or smeared itso she was forced to buy the book as she made stains?? noish. The stain is relevant, but she wasn't forced to buy the book, nor does your account explain why she wouldn't have bought the book idf she weren't fat
do we have enough clues to find the solution to this puzzle? yes
is the food item a lollipop?? no
is it milk chocolate?? possibly
is it hot fudge?could be fugde but very unlikely to be hot
is it strawberry dipped in chocolate??possibly
is it salt water taffy?? possibly
Puzzllover
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So, to clarify... The woman buys a food item and smears it somehow onto the book that she would be buying because she is fat, and decides to actually buy it because it will save her embarrassment from something the employees are doing or implying?

Does it matter what kind of book? Fantasy? Scifi? Mystery? etc?
Sunil Brown
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did the act of smearing the food item somehow create an implication on her weight?
would the food smearing not have occurred had she not been overweight?
puzz10
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just imagining things here...
did she stuff herself with too much food that it came out of her mouth and smeared it on the book..
She felt embarrassed abt it and bought the book later on just as a cover up act..??
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Puzzllover on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 9:18 pm:  Edit

So, to clarify... The woman buys a food item noand smears it somehow onto the book she does smear food onto the book that she would be buying because she is fat, and decides to actually buy it because it will save her embarrassment from something the employees are doing or implying no?

Does it matter what kind of book? no Fantasy? Scifi? Mystery? etc?
By Sunil Brown on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 9:41 pm:  Edit

did the act of smearing the food item somehow create an implication on her weight? noish
would the food smearing not have occurred had she not been overweight? no
By puzz10 on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 10:34 pm:  Edit

just imagining things here...
did she stuff herself with too much food that it came out of her mouth and smeared it on the book.. no
She felt embarrassed abt it and bought the book later on just as a cover up act..?? yope
Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Did she the food item taken from a plate with candy free for all customers to eat?
Did she take more than one?

Did an employee see her smearing it onto the book?
Does she inform an employee about this?
Had she done anything with the book before?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Stefan and Philipp (Sobs) on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 8:22 pm:  Edit

Did she the food item taken from a plate with candy free for all customers to eat?yes (Candy & cookies & similar lovely things)
Did she take more than one? yes but irrel

Did an employee see her smearing it onto the book? no
Does she inform an employee about this? no
Had she done anything with the book before? yes
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Oh maybe I made a false assumption. What about this scenario? Perhaps this was some sort of book-signing evening with free scones, cakes, etc. Rosa goes in to enjoy the food, sits down to read the latest Jackie Collins/Milan Kundera/insert literary tastes here, but smudges the book with a banoffee pie or such. Naturally, she thinks it's only fair to buy the book. Is this close?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Howard Wilde (Woodworm) on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 10:06 pm:  Edit

Oh maybe I made a false assumption. What about this scenario? Perhaps this was some sort of book-signing evening with free scones, cakes, etc. Rosa goes in to enjoy the food, sits down to read the latest Jackie Collins/Milan Kundera/insert literary tastes here, but smudges the book with a banoffee pie or such. Naturally, she thinks it's only fair to buy the book. Is this close? Very close. Actually, the event was my university bookstore's annual Christmas party, when the staff brings in wonderful homemade gooey treats for all. I'm Rosabel & of course, I always attend & eat plenty. After the party, I wander around the bookstore, & yes, I once smeared chocolate on a book I was looking at. The only thing you haven't gotten yet is the role of obesity. I'm not fat anymore; so if I smeared a book this way now, I wouldn't necessarily buy it. Why not? What's fat got toi do with it??
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Is any of employees act on her relevant while she was there???
Was that employees act relevant bcos she was obsese??
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was any of the employees too lean?
was the party for charity related to poverty/malnutrition?
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Is any of employees act on her relevant while she was there??? yes
Was that employees act relevant bcos she was obsese?? yes
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was any of the employees too lean? irrel
was the party for charity related to poverty/malnutrition? no
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Did they give her extra food? Try to hide the food away?
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I am a bit confused...you are saying that if she wasnt fat and she smeared the book she wouldnt buy..and later said that the employees act was relevant bcos she was obese...
so was the employees act responsible for smearing the food???
so the employee wouldnt have acted that way if she wasnt fat??
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Is it because if the employees discovered the smear, they would blame Rosabel regardless of whether it was her on not? Publicly? Is this the sort of embarrassment she's trying to avoid by buying it?
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Does the act of smearing food on the book somehow change writing or images on the book cover? If so, to the embarrassment of Rosa? Is the author of the book relevant?
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was there permanent damage to the book? is this relevant?
was the employee action as a result of Rosa smearing the book? or was its timing coincidental?
was the action of the employee related to the book in question?
was the action directed partly toward Rosa? only toward Rosa?
was the action directed toward other employees? other customers?
was the action related to food in the room?
was the act by the employee an accident?
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Is where/how she smeared the book relevent?
Cover? Pages? Slipcover? Top? Bottom? Front? Back?
The food directly? From her fingers? Mouth?
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Did they give her extra food? no Try to hide the food away? no
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I am a bit confused...you are saying that if she wasnt fat and she smeared the book she wouldnt buy yes..and later said that the employees act was relevant bcos she was obese...
so was the employees act responsible for smearing the food???yope or noish
so the employee wouldnt have acted that way if she wasnt fat?? no
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Is it because if the employees discovered the smear, they would blame Rosabel regardless of whether it was her on not? no Publicly? no Is this the sort of embarrassment she's trying to avoid by buying it? no
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Does the act of smearing food on the book somehow change writing or images on the book cover? no If so, to the embarrassment of Rosa? Is the author of the book relevant? no
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was there permanent damage to the book? yes is this relevant? yes
was the employee action as a result of Rosa smearing the book? no or was its timing coincidental? no
was the action of the employee related to the book in question? noish
was the action directed partly toward Rosa? yes only toward Rosa? no
was the action directed toward other employees? yes other customers? yes
was the action related to food in the room? yes
was the act by the employee an accident? no
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Is where/how she smeared the book relevent? no
Cover? Pages? Slipcover? Top? Bottom? Front? Back?
The food directly? From her fingers? Mouth? all irrel
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so is the scenario like this??
the employees distribute food to the people in the store...She (bcos of being fat) was the only person to damage the book...(i am yet to find out why and how) ..so she pays and buys the book....
Is this close??
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was the employee action a result of any other event? which happened after the smearing of the book? before the smearing of the book?
was the employee action a scheduled event?
was the smearing of food, the only damage that happened on the book?
was Rosa the only person responsible for all damages the book sustained?
was the employee action related to the food in the room? was it related to the food on the book?
was the food that was already in the room moved? removed?
was any more food added to what was already there in the room?
how many people noticed the smeared book? employee in question? more than one employee? all employees? all customers? everyone in store?
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osted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 9:55 pm:   
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so is the scenario like this??
the employees distribute food to the people in the store well, they make the food available (it was on a central table)...She (bcos of being fat) no was the only person to damage the bookirrel{...(i am yet to find out why and how) we knoiw she smeared food on the book ..so she pays and buys the book.... yes
Is this close?? see above
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was the employee action a result of any other event? no--the employee action weas just masking the food available which happened after the smearing of the book? no before the smearing of the book? yes
was the employee action a scheduled event? yes
was the smearing of food, the only damage that happened on the book? yes
was Rosa the only person responsible for all damages the book sustained? yes
was the employee action related to the food in the room? yes was it related to the food on the book? indirectly--see above
was the food that was already in the room moved? removed? possibly
was any more food added to what was already there in the room? irrel
how many people noticed the smeared book? employee in question? more than one employee? all employees? all customers? everyone in store? no onre but Rosa
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so when she bought the book no one realized that she had smeared the book??
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Was the smearing of chocolate on the book from a part of Rosa's body other than her hands?
Is the point that if it were today & Rosa wasn't fat, the book wouldn't have become smeared with chocolate?
Is there some kind of impression in the chocolate stain which shows, e.g. rolls of fat, thereby making it embarrassing for Rosa?
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Does she smear the book deliberately? (I'm assuming it's not Malory!)
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so when she bought the book no one realized that she had smeared the book?? yes
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Was the smearing of chocolate on the book from a part of Rosa's body other than her hands? no
Is the point that if it were today & Rosa wasn't fat, the book wouldn't have become smeared with chocolate? no
Is there some kind of impression in the chocolate stain which shows, e.g. rolls of fat, thereby making it embarrassing for Rosa? no
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Does she smear the book deliberately? no (I'm assuming it's not Malory!) Perish the thought!! I wouldn't even risk smearing Malory accidentally!!!!!
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Did she buy the book to prevent anyone from finding out that she had smeared it?

If she wasn't fat would she not mind people finding out that she had smeared the book? or would she think it was unlikely that they would find out at all?
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Did she buy the book to prevent anyone from finding out that she had smeared it? yope

If she wasn't fat would she not mind people finding out that she had smeared the book? yes or would she think it was unlikely that they would find out at all? no
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Did she think if they found it, they would assume she did it because she was fat?
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Did she buy the book to obscure part of herself?
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Did chocolate become smeared on anything else relevant, apart from hands & book?
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are we missing some information to connect rosa's size with her smearing of the book? or has all the required information been discovered?
could you reveal a clue toward what direction we need to be thinking?
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Did she think if they found it, they would assume she did it because she was fat? no
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Did she buy the book to obscure part of herself? noish
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Did chocolate become smeared on anything else relevant, apart from hands & book? no
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are we missing some information to connect rosa's size with her smearing of the book? no or has all the required information been discovered? yes
could you reveal a clue toward what direction we need to be thinking? Think about the options open to someone who inadvertently damages an object in a store
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hmm..options open to someone...
did she try to hide the book somewhere where no one could notice it till she leaves??
is it because she was fat that she couldnt do something??say hide it at a place where couldnt have reached..
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Did the employees see her handling the book before she intended to buy it?

Could rosa have Not taken any of these options:
hide the book in original location? in new location?
acknowlege damage? and act based on store policy for the situation?

did she not want to let the employee know that she had smeared the book so that he doesn't make assumptions about fat people in general? her in perticular?
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hmm..options open to someone...
did she try to hide the book somewhere where no one could notice it till she leaves?? no
is it because she was fat that she couldnt do something?? nosay hide it at a place where couldnt have reached.. no
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Did the employees see her handling the book before she intended to buy it? no

Could rosa have Not taken any of these options:
hide the book in original location? she cpould have done this in new location? ditto
acknowlege damage? ditto and act based on store policy for the situation? ditto

did she not want to let the employee know that she had smeared the book so that he doesn't make assumptions about fat people in general? no her in perticular? yes

This is close enough for me to declare a
************ SPOILER**************
Rosabel, who is your very owen Felicia Nimue, went to a Christmas party at her university's bookstore. She had a great time pigging out on treats, then went to look at books. Unfortunately, she smeared some chocolate on a book she was looking at. Normally, when she damages a product in a store, she does what her parents told her to at age 8--take it to the manager & ask if she has to buy it. But, since she was about 140 pounds (about 65 kg) overweight, she was not eager to advertise that she had smeared a book with chocolate. So she just bought it.Thanks for sticking with it, everyone & for solving it, Sunil, & please check out my new puzzle at the bottom of the page
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I should ask that if Rosabel had taken the book to the manager & asked whether she had to buy it, he would have said no. So--if she had not been fat, she would not have bought the book
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Very nice (as usual)--I don't guess I would've thought about food in a bookstore...although last night I managed to step in a spilled milkshake in Barnes & Noble. Now that I think about it, some of 'em have coffee shops right in the bookstore.
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N.B. This incident happen ed before America's disgusting "War on Obesity" (aka war on fat people). Nowadays, fat people come in for intrusive remarks about their weight regardless of whether they smear food on ANYTHING--& the people making the remarks get to think of themselves as giving "help." So I guess I'm lucky that I lost my extra weight before the "war."

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