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Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:38 pm: |      |
She was given back a grocery list and was very embarassed. |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1742 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:55 pm: |      |
Well...is 'she' human? "Given back" as in something was returned to her? A person gave her back a list? A person who 'she' had, at some point, given the list to? Were any words spoken during the act of giving the list back to 'she'? At this point the assumption is that there are two people mainly involved - the 'she' who was the recipient of the list, and someone else who gave it to her...is anyone else of any relevance involved? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 3 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:01 pm: |      |
Well...is 'she' human? Yes "Given back" as in something was returned to her? Yes A person gave her back a list? Yes A person who 'she' had, at some point, given the list to? Yes Were any words spoken during the act of giving the list back to 'she'? No At this point the assumption is that there are two people mainly involved - the 'she' who was the recipient of the list, and someone else who gave it to her...is anyone else of any relevance involved? No Oh, btw, just call 'her' Sally. |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1744 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:06 pm: |      |
Ok, Sally it is. So did Sally, at some point, compose a grocery list? If so, did she do it by writing a series of items on a piece of paper? Is it important or helpful to know what exact words are on the list? Were there, in fact, words in the list? Or had she perhaps made a list with pictures? If she had made a list of words, were the words spelled correctly? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 5 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:13 pm: |      |
So did Sally, at some point, compose a grocery list? yes If so, did she do it by writing a series of items on a piece of paper? irrelevant Is it important or helpful to know what exact words are on the list? no Were there, in fact, words in the list? yes Or had she perhaps made a list with pictures? no If she had made a list of words, were the words spelled correctly? no |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1745 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:17 pm: |      |
Did Sally want to use the list as a shopping aid herself? Or for someone else to use as a shopping aid? Did Sally actually go shopping and use the list to confirm that she got what she needed? Does person #2, who gave Sally the list back, know Sally personally? Is it a person that Sally has given lists to in the past? Is it someone Sally's same age? Is the exchange of the list happening in Sally's home? In someone else's home? At some workplace/business? Indoors? Outdoors? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 6 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:24 pm: |      |
Did Sally want to use the list as a shopping aid herself?Yope Or for someone else to use as a shopping aid? No Did Sally actually go shopping Yes and use the list to confirm that she got what she needed? No Does person #2, who gave Sally the list back, know Sally personally?Yes Is it a person that Sally has given lists to in the past? Yope. Explore Is it someone Sally's same age? irrevelant Is the exchange of the list happening in Sally's home? no In someone else's home? At some workplace/business?This one. Yes Indoors? Yes Outdoors? No |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 7 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:25 pm: |      |
BLOOPER ALERT the irrelevant is yes, but it doesn't matter |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1749 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:40 pm: |      |
Does the list exchange happen at a grocery store? Does Sally give the list to person 2 so that person 2 can proofread it? confirm that Sally has obtained every thing on the list? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 8 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:45 pm: |      |
Does the list exchange happen at a grocery store? no Does Sally give the list to person 2 so that person 2 can proofread it? no confirm that Sally has obtained every thing on the list? no |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 222 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:08 pm: |      |
When Sally intend that the other person see the list in the first place? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 9 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:09 pm: |      |
When Sally intend that the other person see the list in the first place? no |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1751 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:14 pm: |      |
So did person 2 obtain the list by: taking it from Sally directly? picking it up off the floor? removing it from some item of Sally's (like a purse, or her pocket)? Finding it somewhere? When person 2 gave the list to Sally, was Sally surprised? Did she expect person 2 to give her the list? Or did Sally not even know that person 2 had the list? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 10 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:20 pm: |      |
So did person 2 obtain the list by: taking it from Sally directly? If you mean Sally giving the list to Person #2, then YES picking it up off the floor? removing it from some item of Sally's (like a purse, or her pocket)? Finding it somewhere? No to all When person 2 gave the list to Sally, was Sally surprised? Yope Did she expect person 2 to give her the list?No-ish Or did Sally not even know that person 2 had the list? Yes, Sally, knew that Person #2 had the list |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1753 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:24 pm: |      |
So how much time passed between the time Sally gave person 2 the list and person 2 gave it back to her: a few seconds? few minutes? an hour? few hours? days? weeks? months? years? Did person 2 ever read the list? |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 224 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:25 pm: |      |
Had Sally intended to give something else to person 2 other than te list, and then later realized she had given the wrong thing? If so, is it relevant what she intended to give to person 2? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 11 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:31 pm: |      |
So how much time passed between the time Sally gave person 2 the list and person 2 gave it back to her: a few seconds? few minutes? an hour? few hours? days? weeks? months? years? Yes to the first Did person 2 ever read the list? Yes Had Sally intended to give something else to person 2 other than te list, and then later realized she had given the wrong thing? yes If so, is it relevant what she intended to give to person 2? yes |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1758 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 10:03 pm: |      |
So Sally gave person 2 the list? Person 2 accepted the list? Person 2 then realized that what Sally had given him/her was not what Person 2 needed to get from Sally? And Sally did not know she had given the wrong thing to Person 2? Sally gave something to Person 2 that had some other kind of information on it? Sally gave Person 2 a grocery list, but intended to give something else to Person 2? Sally was embarrassed only because she gave an item to Person 2 that she didn't intend to give to Person 2? Or was she embarrassed for another reason? Did Sally embarrassment have anything to do with what was written on the paper that she gave Person 2? Or simply because she made a mistake and gave Person 2 the wrong item? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 12 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 10:22 pm: |      |
So Sally gave person 2 the list? yes Person 2 accepted the list? yope. Depending on what you intend this sentence to mean, the answer can be either 'yes' or 'no'. Person 2 then realized that what Sally had given him/her was not what Person 2 needed to get from Sally? And Sally did not know she had given the wrong thing to Person 2? Sally gave something to Person 2 that had some other kind of information on it? Sally gave Person 2 a grocery list, but intended to give something else to Person 2? yes too all Sally was embarrassed only because she gave an item to Person 2 that she didn't intend to give to Person 2? not really Or was she embarrassed for another reason? Sally is embarassed for another reason Did Sally embarrassment have anything to do with what was written on the paper that she gave Person 2?no Or simply because she made a mistake and gave Person 2 the wrong item? yes |
Sobs (Sobs)
New member Username: Sobs
Post Number: 175 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 7:15 am: |      |
Is it correct that the item she intended to give Person2 had approximately the same size,shape and color as the grocery list? Was it a business card? |
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
New member Username: Wizardofnz
Post Number: 347 Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 8:39 am: |      |
Fewer people than I anticipated own copies of Paul's books. Interesting. Carry on. |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 13 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 3:23 pm: |      |
Is it correct that the item she intended to give Person2 had approximately the same size,shape and color as the grocery list? yes Was it a business card?no |
Sobs (Sobs)
New member Username: Sobs
Post Number: 176 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 4:49 pm: |      |
The grocery list was written on a piece of paper... -larger than A4/letter-size? -approx. A4 -smaller than A4 -larger than business card size? -approx. business card size? -smaller than business card size? Was Person2 a... -client -customer -colleage -boss -inferior -friend of Sally? Another sort of business contact? From another company? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 16 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 4:53 pm: |      |
The grocery list was written on a piece of paper... -larger than A4/letter-size? -approx. A4 -smaller than A4 -larger than business card size? -approx. business card size? -smaller than business card size? irrelevant Was Person2 a... -client -customer -colleage -boss -inferior None of the above -friend Sorta kinda. Yope-ish of Sally? Another sort of business contact? From another company? No |
Sobs (Sobs)
New member Username: Sobs
Post Number: 181 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 6:58 am: |      |
Was Person2 a relative of Sally? Her husband? So the item she meant to give Person2 exists in different sizes? Was it white? Made of paper? Did she have it in her pocket/bag/at the same place as the grocery list? Did it contain text? Handwriting? Computer writing? |
Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi
Post Number: 5 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 4:06 pm: |      |
Did I get it right: Sally handed a grocery list to a second person and the spelling on this list was incorrect? Was Sally embarrassed because of the bad spelling? Is the place where this happens relevant (exept for the fact that it is not the grocery)? Is it a sort of shop? Is the second person related to this place? Concerning the object that Sally intended to give to person 2, was it likewise a list of items? Was the spelling correct? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 20 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 7:44 pm: |      |
Was Person2 a relative of Sally? Her husband? no to both So the item she meant to give Person2 exists in different sizes? rephrase. Don't quite understand what you are asking was it white? irrelevantMade of paper? yes Did she have it in her pocket/bag/at the same place as the grocery list? yes Did it contain text? yes Handwriting? Computer writing? irrelevant Did I get it right: Sally handed a grocery list to a second person and the spelling on this list was incorrect? Was Sally embarrassed because of the bad spelling? both are FAs Is the place where this happens relevant (exept for the fact that it is not the grocery)? yes Is it a sort of shop?no Is the second person related to this place? yes Concerning the object that Sally intended to give to person 2, was it likewise a list of items? yes-ish Was the spelling correct? irrelevant, but yes |
Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi
Post Number: 9 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 9:17 pm: |      |
Is the spelling of words in this story relevant? Is Sally embarrassed in the sense of unmasked? in the sense of confused? Did this incident reveal something about Sally? something personal? something she wanted to keep secret? Where did Sally meet the second person before: in the same place? elsewhere? both? Did she give papers to this person before? Did she receive papers of this person before? By the way, is Sally deaf, mute or blind? Is the second person working at the location? Is his profession relevant? A doctor? Does the second person know that Sally is embarrassed? (My idea: On the list is food that the doctor did not want Sally to eat) |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 21 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 9:24 pm: |      |
Is the spelling of words in this story relevant? no Is Sally embarrassed in the sense of unmasked? in the sense of confused? no to both Did this incident reveal something about Sally? something personal? something she wanted to keep secret? Yope Where did Sally meet the second person before: in the same place? elsewhere? both? Irrelevant Did she give papers to this person before? yes Did she receive papers of this person before? no By the way, is Sally deaf, mute or blind? no Is the second person working at the location? yes Is his profession relevant? yes A doctor? no Does the second person know that Sally is embarrassed? no (My idea: On the list is food that the doctor did not want Sally to eat) FA, but I must say, clever guess |
Solane (Solane)
New member Username: Solane
Post Number: 356 Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 4:24 am: |      |
Does Sally have another list? And she mixed up who to give her two list to? And is embarassed? Did she ive her grociery list to a grocier? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 24 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 3:27 pm: |      |
Does Sally have another list? And she mixed up who to give her two list to? And is embarassed? yes to all, explore Did she give her grociery list to a grocier? no |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1764 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 3:41 pm: |      |
Is this happening at a pharmacy? hospital? clothing store? department store? Does Sally KNOW she's not at a grocery store when she gives Person 2 the list? This could be a source of embarrasment, if Sally goes into what she THINKS is a grocery store and gives what she THINKS is a grocery list to an employee, then finds out she's at the wrong place with the wrong list... |
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Post Number: 15 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 3:42 pm: |      |
The profession of the second person is relevant -> time for a list ;-) is he working in one or more of the following fields? artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Other ? I am confused about the word embarrassed did you write it embarassed with one 'r' by mistake? Is Sally embarrassed in the sense of inhibited? If not I'll leave it to the native speakers to explore. Do we have to find out more about Sally in general? profession? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 25 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 3:53 pm: |      |
Is this happening at a pharmacy? hospital? clothing store? department store? Does Sally KNOW she's not at a grocery store when she gives Person 2 the list? yes This could be a source of embarrasment, if Sally goes into what she THINKS is a grocery store and gives what she THINKS is a grocery list to an employee, then finds out she's at the wrong place with the wrong list...Yope. Right place, wrong list. The profession of the second person is relevant -> time for a list ;-) is he working in one or more of the following fields? artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Other ? Sorry. This one I am confused about the word embarrassed did you write it embarassed with one 'r' by mistake? Typo. Tee-hee. It's just me w/ bad spelling, not Sally. =) Is Sally embarrassed in the sense of inhibited?no If not I'll leave it to the native speakers to explore. Do we have to find out more about Sally in general? profession? no |
Sobs (Sobs)
New member Username: Sobs
Post Number: 190 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 4:31 pm: |      |
So she has two list and she will go to two different places today: one list is the grocery list and one place is the grocery store, correct? Does the second list also contain items that she wants to buy? Is she somewhere where she can buy these items? Is Person2 a vendor? |
Stuccosalt (Stuccosalt)
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Post Number: 490 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 4:36 pm: |      |
Has Sally given the list she intended to give to this person to someone at a grocery store? Is her sense of embarrassement less that she gave this person a grocery list, and more that if she still has the grocery list, then it means she gave her other list to someone else? Is their anything incriminating or that would reflect poorly on her on either list? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 26 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 11:42 pm: |      |
So she has two list and she will go to two different places today: one list is the grocery list and one place is the grocery store, correct? Indeed! Does the second list also contain items that she wants to buy? no Is she somewhere where she can buy these items? no Is Person2 a vendor? no Has Sally given the list she intended to give to this person to someone at a grocery store? yes Is her sense of embarrassement less that she gave this person a grocery list, and more that if she still has the grocery list, then it means she gave her other list to someone else? yes, explore Is their anything incriminating or that would reflect poorly on her on either list? yes |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1775 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 3:33 am: |      |
Is the other list... a list of medications she takes? a list of errands she's supposed to run that day? Is it a list at all? Or just written information? Is it a letter that she's written to someone and just hasn't put in an envelope? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 27 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 12:35 pm: |      |
Is the other list... a list of medications she takes? no a list of errands she's supposed to run that day? no Is it a list at all? indeed Or just written information? well, this too, I guess Is it a letter that she's written to someone and just hasn't put in an envelope? no |
Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi
Post Number: 27 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 1:09 pm: |      |
Ok, Sally gave the wrong list to someone at the grocery? Is this someone relevant? Did this someone get any information he was not supposed to get? About Sally? About her intentions? Coming back to the occupation of the person who returned the list, is he in: Sports? entertainment? a jailbird, criminal? Coming back to the word embarrassed: Sally is embarrassed She is neither unmasked nor confused nor inhibited? Is she put into difficulty? |
Stuccosalt (Stuccosalt)
New member Username: Stuccosalt
Post Number: 493 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 4:31 pm: |      |
Is the unknown list (the non-grocery list) a list of tangible objects? Of names (of people)? Of events? Of things she did? Would it be clear from glancing at the list's contents what exactly it was a list of? Did we learn everything we need to know about Sally? Can she speak? Is there anything criminally incriminating on the list? Morally? On a wild limb, are any religious figures involved in this puzzle? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 28 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 9:55 pm: |      |
Ok, Sally gave the wrong list to someone at the grocery? Is this someone relevant? Did this someone get any information he was not supposed to get? About Sally? yes to all About her intentions? no Coming back to the occupation of the person who returned the list, is he in: Sports? entertainment? a jailbird, criminal? nope, sorry. None of the above Coming back to the word embarrassed: Sally is embarrassed She is neither unmasked So sorry!!! Gave wrong information(or brother did it for me) Yes, she felt unmasked nor confused nor inhibited? Is she put into difficulty?no Is the unknown list (the non-grocery list) a list of tangible objects? no, not a list of objects Of names (of people)? noOf events? no Of things she did? yes Would it be clear from glancing at the list's contents what exactly it was a list of? yes Did we learn everything we need to know about Sally? Can she speak? You basically have everything you need to know about Sally Is there anything criminally incriminating on the list? Morally? no On a wild limb, are any religious figures involved in this puzzle? very good! Yes |
Stuccosalt (Stuccosalt)
New member Username: Stuccosalt
Post Number: 496 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 1:50 pm: |      |
Getting close, I think... Was the list intended for a priest or other religious figurehead? Is it a list of sins? (why i was wondering if she is unable to speak, perhaps she needed to give a Catholic priest a written list of her sins at confession)... along these lines close? is it a list of sins or wrongdoings she committed? someone else had committed? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 29 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 5:22 pm: |      |
Getting close, I think... No comment. =) Keep trying! Was the list intended for a priest or other religious figurehead? yes Is it a list of sins? yes (why i was wondering if she is unable to speak, perhaps she needed to give a Catholic priest a written list of her sins at confession)... along these lines close? is it a list of sins or wrongdoings she committed? yes someone else had committed? no OK, easy question-- Why was Sally embarassed? |
Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi
Post Number: 35 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 7:23 pm: |      |
Well, I guess that Stuccosalt found it out: When she got back the grocery list from a priest (or similar) she realized that she had given a list of her sins to someone at the grocery? Is there more to find out? Why did this someone at the grocery keep the list? Perhaps, she rather put down the list at the grocery? |
Theredlady (Theredlady)
New member Username: Theredlady
Post Number: 30 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 7:47 pm: |      |
Spoiler Sally gave the priest a list of what she thought was a list of sins. When the list was given back to her, she realized that what she had given the priest was her grocery list, and that she gave the grocer the list of her sins. And that's the end! |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 1786 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 8:10 pm: |      |
So she needed a head of cabbage and some milk...and by the way, she also had angry thoughts about the guy that cut her off in traffic! Nice puzzle. |