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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 5:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A window broke in a tall building. Soon thereafter, three naked female figures fell out of this window, one after the other. Finally, a fully clad woman fell out of the window, screaming on her way down. The pavement underneath was covered with red. John, who threw out all the women, wasn't charged with murder.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 6:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the three naked female figures real women? Mannequins?
Was the window on a lower floor? The ground floor? Was it a store window?
Was the red blood? Paint? Carpet?
Was John throwing all the women out an accident? Or did he do it on purpose?
Was he doing some kind of job that caused him to throw them out?
Did the "real" woman (women) who fell out the window survive? Were they injured?
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Were the three naked female figures real women? No Mannequins? Yes
Was the window on a lower floor? What do you mean by "lower floor"? The ground floor? No Was it a store window? Yope
Was the red blood? No Paint? No, but close Carpet? No
Was John throwing all the women out an accident? No Or did he do it on purpose? Yes
Was he doing some kind of job that caused him to throw them out? Yope (by "job" you mean an action in general?
Did the "real" woman (women) who fell out the window survive? Yes Were they injured? A bit
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 11:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the mannequins thrown out to act as a soft landing for the woman?
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Was there a fire? a different catastrophe?
Ws the red thing on the pavement a jumping sheet?
Did the man use the mannequins in order to test whether it was safe to throw down the woman?
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the mannequins thrown out to act as a soft landing for the woman? No

Was there a fire? no a different catastrophe? No
Ws the red thing on the pavement a jumping sheet? No
Did the man use the mannequins in order to test whether it was safe to throw down the woman?No

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Was he doing some kind of job that caused him to throw them out?
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He wasn't doing a "job" in the sense of occupation (like sewing, cooking, repairing etc.
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Did the window break because the woman leaned against it? Domino effect with her, the man and the mannequins?
Did she scream because she was in pain? Scared? Street drama?
How far did they fall? No distance? One storey? Two storeys? More?
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Did the window break because the woman leaned against it? No Domino effect with her, the man and the mannequins? No
Did she scream because she was in pain? No Scared? Yes (she was falling) Street drama? No
How far did they fall? No distance? One storey? Two storeys? More? Let's say... two storeys
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Was John trying to save her from something? Which is why he couldn't be charged with murder - manslaughter at the most, presumably?
Was this the window of a public building? A warehouse?
Had something exploded inside the building? Outside it?
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If John had not been there to throw her would the real woman have jumped?
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Was John trying to save her from something? No Which is why he couldn't be charged with murder - manslaughter at the most, presumably? Yope
Was this the window of a public building? No A warehouse? No
Had something exploded inside the building? Outside it? No
If John had not been there to throw her would the real woman have jumped? no
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Is it relevant to know the relationship between John and the real woman?
From which floor did they fall, 1st floor? 2nd floor? 3-10th floor? More than 10 floors above the ground? Is it relevant?
Is John's profession relevant?
Is red the color of the pavement itself (not painted on it)?
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Is it relevant to know the relationship between John and the real woman? Yes
From which floor did they fall, 1st floor? 2nd floor? 3-10th floor? More than 10 floors above the ground? Is it relevant? Irrelevant, actually.
Is John's profession relevant? Yes
Is red the color of the pavement itself (not painted on it)?No
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Does John want to hurt the real woman? Kill her?
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Does John want to hurt the real woman? Yes Kill her? Yope
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Was the reason John was not charged with murder because nobody was actually killed?
Was he charged with a crime?
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Was the reason John was not charged with murder because nobody was actually killed? Yes
Was he charged with a crime? Yes
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Was the woman his wife? Ex-wife? Did she work for him? Did he work for her? Was she his mistress?
Was John a doctor? A lawyer? Manager?
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Did John work with clothing? Was he a stylist?
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Was the woman his wife? Yes Ex-wife? No Did she work for him? No Did he work for her? No Was she his mistress?No
Was John a doctor? A lawyer? Manager? No to all
Did John work with clothing? Yes Was he a stylist? No
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Was he angry at her?
If he didn't work with clothes, would all this have happened?
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Was John's work connected with the mannequins? Was he trying to use the alibi that he was throwing the dummies out of the window, and thought his wife was one?!
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Was he angry at her? Yes!
If he didn't work with clothes, would all this have happened? Yope
Was John's work connected with the mannequins? Yes Was he trying to use the alibi that he was throwing the dummies out of the window, and thought his wife was one?! No
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Was the throwing out of the dummies connected with the crime?
Or just because he happened to be throwing them out anyway?
Or was he throwing them out of the window simply through anger? Or to demonstrate some threat to his wife?
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Is it relevant to find out the reason why he was angry at her?
Did he throw the dummies as an experiment to see the damage caused to a human being from falling from that height?
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Is it relevant that the pavement was covered with red? Was there something on it (roses, paper, anything red)?
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Was the throwing out of the dummies connected with the crime? Yes
Or just because he happened to be throwing them out anyway? No
Or was he throwing them out of the window simply through anger? Yope Or to demonstrate some threat to his wife? No
Is it relevant to find out the reason why he was angry at her? Yes
Did he throw the dummies as an experiment to see the damage caused to a human being from falling from that height? No
Is it relevant that the pavement was covered with red? Yes Was there something on it (roses, paper, anything red)? Yes
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Rad carpet? As in movie premier? Royal visit? or similar?
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Did his wife know that he worked with mannequins? Did she think he was cavorting with naked women?
Was he angry that she thought that?
Or - did he set up a trap for her?
Did this happen at fashion show?

Did the window break because he was throwing the mannequins out? Or did they follow after the breaking?
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Rad carpet? No As in movie premier? Royal visit? or similar? Both no
Did his wife know that he worked with mannequins? Yes Did she think he was cavorting with naked women? No
Was he angry that she thought that? No
Or - did he set up a trap for her? No
Did this happen at fashion show? No

Did the window break because he was throwing the mannequins out? No Or did they follow after the breaking? Yes
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Did the man break the window himself?
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Did the man break the window himself? Yope
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Was the man pushed against the window? If so, by the woman?
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Was the man pushed against the window? If so, by the woman? No to both
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Did the window break inwards or outwards?
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Did the window break inwards or outwards? Outwards
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Did an object break the window? Or a person? Or an explosion? Did something fly across the room from inside that broke the window?
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Did the red stuff on the pavement come from the same place as the woman and the dummies?
Did John also put the red stuff there?
Would it help to discover what the red stuff is?
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Did an object break the window? Yes Or a person? No Or an explosion? No Did something fly across the room from inside that broke the window? Yes
Did the red stuff on the pavement come from the same place as the woman and the dummies? Yes
Did John also put the red stuff there? Yope
Would it help to discover what the red stuff is? Yes
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So the object that broke the window was red and its pieces covered the pavement, then he threw out 3 dummies and then his wife, correct?
Was he angry at her because of jealousy? Because of something she hid from him? Because of money?
Was the object something she threw on him? Or that he threw on her?
Is the object the cause of his anger towards her?
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So the object that broke the window was red Yope and its pieces covered the pavement Yope, then he threw out 3 dummies Yes and then his wife, correct? Yes
Was he angry at her because of jealousy? Because of something she hid from him? Because of money? All no
Was the object something she threw on him? Or that he threw on her? No
Is the object the cause of his anger towards her? Yes
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Is the object made of glass? tissue (cloth)? paper? stone? wood?
Is the object expensive? Did he use the object in his job?
Was the object kept by him? In that room? In his house?
Had he just discovered something that made him angry?
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Is the object made of glass? Yope tissue (cloth)? paper? stone? wood? No to other
Is the object expensive? Did he use the object in his job? No to both
Was the object kept by him? In that room? In his house? No to all
Had he just discovered something that made him angry? Yes
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Was his wife the owner of the object?
Had he just discovered something about that object or something related to it that made him angry?
Had he discovered that object in that moment? Was it being hidden from him?
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Was his wife the owner of the object? Yope
Had he just discovered something about that object or something related to it that made him angry? Yes
Had he discovered that object in that moment? Was it being hidden from him? No
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Was the window red? Or with red paint?
Is it relevant to know his wife's profession?
He perfectly knew that, by throwing his wife from that floor, she could have died, right? Did he throw her in a burst of anger (that is, not premeditated)?
Did he try to injure her so as to prevent her from doing something or achieving something?
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Was the window red? Or with red paint? No to both
Is it relevant to know his wife's profession? No
He perfectly knew that, by throwing his wife from that floor, she could have died, right?Yes, but: Did he throw her in a burst of anger (that is, not premeditated)? Yes
Did he try to injure her so as to prevent her from doing something or achieving something? No
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Did he know his wife woulndn't die (or wasn't expected to die) from the fall?
Is it relevant to know what kind of building it was? Residential? Commercial?
The object broke the window, right? Was the object thrown by someone? Is it made of plastic? Carbon fiber? Rubber? Is the material relevant?
Is the window a normal one? Made of glass? Anything special with it?
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Did he know his wife woulndn't die (or wasn't expected to die) from the fall? Irr
Is it relevant to know what kind of building it was? Residential? Commercial? Noish
The object broke the window, right? Yes Was the object thrown by someone? Yes Is it made of plastic? Carbon fiber? Rubber? Is the material relevant? Yope
Is the window a normal one? Yes Made of glass? Yes Anything special with it? No
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Was the object thrown just to break the window?
Was this object thrown by John? By his wife?
Did John threw the dummies out of the window in a burst of anger? Just to release his anger? Or he threw the dummies down with a specific intention?
Was the pavement red because of the dummies?
Do we have to know anything else about the dummies (some detail of their appearance, for example?)
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Was the object thrown just to break the window? Yes
Was this object thrown by John? By his wife? John
Did John threw the dummies out of the window in a burst of anger? Yope Just to release his anger? Yope Or he threw the dummies down with a specific intention? He didn't throw them out intentionally
Was the pavement red because of the dummies? No
Do we have to know anything else about the dummies (some detail of their appearance, for example?) No
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Did the three dummies fall spontaneously after the window was broken?
The reason why he was angry with her is directly related to the object thrown to break the window, right?
In the moment he threw the object in order to break the window, was he already determined to throw his wife down?
If there were no dummies at all in this story, would he still have thrown her down?
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Did the three dummies fall spontaneously after the window was broken? Huh?
The reason why he was angry with her is directly related to the object thrown to break the window, right? Yes
In the moment he threw the object in order to break the window, was he already determined to throw his wife down? No
If there were no dummies at all in this story, would he still have thrown her down? Probably
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 10:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think what Danielvs was asking was: Were the dummies resting against the window, such that when the window broke the dummies just fell out?
Did he throw something at her, miss and break the window?
Did he fall against the dummies, causing them to fall out of the window? Or knock them while waving his arms in rage? Or did the object he threw hit the dummies and knock them over? Maybe breaking the window?
Was the object he threw a dummy?
Did some other event happen after the dummies hit the ground which caused him to throw his wife out?
Was the throwing of the wife an act of anger? Or kindness?
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 11:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the dummies break when they reached the ground? Was something inside the dummies? Relevant?

Did the first object thrown out of the window cause the pavement to be red? Was something red inside the first object?

Did he look for something inside one of the four objects (first object, 3 dummies)? Did he find something?
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 12:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think what Danielvs was asking was: Were the dummies resting against the window, such that when the window broke the dummies just fell out? No
Did he throw something at her, miss and break the window? No, but later he also threw the dummies at her and missed
Did he fall against the dummies, causing them to fall out of the window? Or knock them while waving his arms in rage? Or did the object he threw hit the dummies and knock them over? Maybe breaking the window? None
Was the object he threw a dummy? The one that broke the window, no
Did some other event happen after the dummies hit the ground which caused him to throw his wife out? No, he was just still angry
Was the throwing of the wife an act of anger? Or kindness? Anger
Did the dummies break when they reached the ground? Was something inside the dummies? Relevant? No

Did the first object thrown out of the window cause the pavement to be red? Yes Was something red inside the first object? Yes!

Did he look for something inside one of the four objects (first object, 3 dummies)? Did he find something? No to both
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 12:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the red thing inside the object the reason of his anger towards his wife?
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 1:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The red stuff: something edible? something to drink? red wine?? a chemical? make-up?
Was it liquid? sticky?
Was the first object made of glass? china? plastic? cardboard? metal?
How much of the red stuff was there: about the volume of a coffee cup? a pint? a litre? more?
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Was the red thing inside the object the reason of his anger towards his wife? Yes
The red stuff: something edible? Yes something to drink? Noish red wine?? a chemical? make-up? No to rest
Was it liquid? Yes (with a weak ish) sticky? No
Was the first object made of glass? china? plastic? cardboard? metal? Glass
How much of the red stuff was there: about the volume of a coffee cup? a pint? a litre? more? I'm not sure, I'd say a few coffee cups
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ketchup? Jam? Something made of fruit? Something made of vegetables? Something made of meat?
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ketchup? Jam? Something made of fruit? Something made of vegetables? This one Something made of meat?
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Soup? Tomato sauce?
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Soup? Yes! Tomato sauce?
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In a flask? Made by him? His wife?
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In a flask? No Made by him? His wife? His wife
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 3:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the glass container usually used to hold soup?
Was the soup hot? relevant?
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 3:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the throwing of the soup container a result of an argument between the man and his wife, concerning the soup?
(this may be old ground, apologies) When the man threw the soup, was he trying to hit his wife? Or hit the window?
Did the soup going out of the window cause the man to throw the dummies out? Or was the soup and dummies one long act of petulance?
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Did he not like the flavour of the soup?
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Was the glass container usually used to hold soup? Yes
Was the soup hot? relevant? Irrevelant
Was the throwing of the soup container a result of an argument between the man and his wife, concerning the soup? Yes
(this may be old ground, apologies) When the man threw the soup, was he trying to hit his wife? Or hit the window? Hit the window
Did the soup going out of the window cause the man to throw the dummies out? Or was the soup and dummies one long act of petulance? This
Did he not like the flavour of the soup? Yes!

I guess I can post a reply soon...
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 4:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Let me get this straight - a chap is working at his clothing factory / shop / tailors, when his wife, out of the goodness of her heart, brings him some lovely tomato soup, and the ungrateful wretch, because he doesn;t like Tomato, throws a strop in which the bowl of soup, then three innocent dummies, then THE WIFE are slung to the pavement below? And the bloke doesn't even get charged with murder?!?

(I assume the wife survives the fall, possibly by landing on the dummies?)
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Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

***SPOILER***

John, the tailor had been angry for the whole day - he had a lot of misfortune and hard work, and he now wanted nthing more than some tasty tomato soup. When he reliazed that the soup is badly made and has too much salt, he exploded with fury - throwing the plate out of the window, tossing the dummies at his wife (he missed) and finally throwing her out of the window. Luckily she only had minor injuries, but John was nonetheless sentenced to a fine.

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