| Author | Message | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 129 Registered: 8-2006 |
When the expected came it was unexpected... | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 301 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was it always expected? it=expected? FLASHING IDEA!!! is expected a name, and he was not expected to somewhere?!? end of random thought | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 130 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was it always expected? For a time, yes it=expected? Yes FLASHING IDEA!!! is expected a name, and he was not expected to somewhere?!? No end of random thought Lol | ||
| Catrien (Catrien)
New member Username: Catrien Post Number: 22 Registered: 8-2006 |
was it something inevitable? but the exact moment was unknown in advance? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 131 Registered: 8-2006 |
was it something inevitable? Yes but the exact moment was unknown in advance? Yep... but you still haven't figured out what was unexpected | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 495 Registered: 7-2006 |
Tales of the Unexpected? | ||
| Nosleepboy (Nosleepboy)
New member Username: Nosleepboy Post Number: 17 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is the thing that was expected/unexpected death? If so, one person or many? If not, is the event a birth? If so, human? | ||
| Erik (Erik)
New member Username: Erik Post Number: 4 Registered: 9-2006 |
Was "it" a calamity? Typhoon? hurricane? earthquake? volcanic eruption? Were they expecting a calamity but unexpected a lot of casualties? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 132 Registered: 8-2006 |
Tales of the Unexpected? No Is the thing that was expected/unexpected death? No death was expected If so, one person or many? Many If not, is the event a birth? If so, human? Human yes... birth no.... Was "it" a calamity? Typhoon? hurricane? earthquake? volcanic eruption? Was "it" a calamity? Typhoon? hurricane? earthquake? volcanic eruption? No Were they expecting a calamity but unexpected a lot of casualties? Depending on what you mean... | ||
| Erik (Erik)
New member Username: Erik Post Number: 14 Registered: 9-2006 |
Were they expecting a death of people? Were they NOT expecting a death of people? Does this involve mass killing? Like, nuclear war? Any type of war? Suicide? Genocide? Does this involve airplane? Plane crashes? Boats? Boats sinking? Does this involve HELP? SOS? Rescue operations? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 133 Registered: 8-2006 |
Were they expecting a death of people? Yes... but that's no the main point Were they NOT expecting a death of people? No Does this involve mass killing? Yes Like, nuclear war? No Any type of war? Yes Suicide? Genocide? No Does this involve airplane? Plane crashes? Boats? Boats sinking? Yes Does this involve HELP? SOS? Rescue operations? Maybe but not very much | ||
| Comforteagle (Comforteagle)
New member Username: Comforteagle Post Number: 76 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did a boat sink during a war? Did the sinking begin a war? Was the event expected to happen at some point? But the time it occured was unexpected? The circumstances it occured under were unexpected? | ||
| Erik (Erik)
New member Username: Erik Post Number: 21 Registered: 9-2006 |
Did this happen in real life? In Japan? Pearl Harbor? Were they expecting something but unexpected the magnitude of what they expected? Were they expecting a war? Or is it the war that they unexpected? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 134 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did a boat sink during a war? Yes Did the sinking begin a war? No Was the event expected to happen at some point? Yes But the time it occured was unexpected? Yes The circumstances it occured under were unexpected? Yes Erik (Erik) New member Username: Erik Post Number: 21 Registered: 9-2006 Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 9:09 am: Did this happen in real life? Yes In Japan? No Pearl Harbor? No Were they expecting something but unexpected the magnitude of what they expected? Maybe Were they expecting a war? No, it was a war that was already started Or is it the war that they unexpected? No | ||
| Solane (Solane)
New member Username: Solane Post Number: 497 Registered: 5-2006 |
The Titanic? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 135 Registered: 8-2006 |
The Titanic? No | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 585 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was the sinking of the ship done by the enemy? Or by the side owning the ship? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 136 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was the sinking of the ship done by the enemy? Enemy Or by the side owning the ship? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 623 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was the ship sunk by torpedo? Or rocket attack? Or by timed device(s) inside the ship? Did the side owning the ship expect it to be destroyed? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 137 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was the ship sunk by torpedo? Yes Or rocket attack? No Or by timed device(s) inside the ship? could be but unlikely Did the side owning the ship expect it to be destroyed? Sort of. | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 727 Registered: 7-2006 |
Were there crew inside the ship when the torpedo struck? Did the torpedo explode immediately it struck the ship? Or did it sit inside the ship for some time, then explode? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 138 Registered: 8-2006 |
Were there crew inside the ship when the torpedo struck? Yes Did the torpedo explode immediately it struck the ship? Most times yes Or did it sit inside the ship for some time, then explode? No | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 381 Registered: 8-2006 |
By U-boats?(the german subs} | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 140 Registered: 8-2006 |
By U-boats?(the german subs} YES!!!!! | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 383 Registered: 8-2006 |
Then this happened during World war one? I might know the answer... I'll email it to you | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 141 Registered: 8-2006 |
Then this happened during World war one? No I might know the answer... I'll email it to you | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 384 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was the war over? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 142 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was the war over? yes world war one was over | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 385 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hmm, did I mix up my world wars? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 143 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hmm, did I mix up my world wars? the sinking of the passenger ship Lusitania did bring the U.S. into world war one | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 386 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did USA expect a warship to be sunk? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 144 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did USA expect a warship to be sunk? Yes | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 393 Registered: 8-2006 |
So, a ship was expected to be sunk, but when a passenger ship sunk, it was unexpected? Anything else important? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 145 Registered: 8-2006 |
So, a ship was expected to be sunk, but when a passenger ship sunk, it was unexpected? ? A passenger ship wasn't sunk... atleast not a U.S. one in this war. Anything else important? Yes | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 763 Registered: 7-2006 |
So, a German U-boat sunk an enemy ship, correct? By torpedo. Was this an enemy warship? Or a passenger ship belonging to the enemy? Or another type, e.g. oil tanker? Was this a ship which the Germans expected to sink? By torpedo? When they expected to sink it? In the place they expected to sink it? Were the enemy (of the Germans) expecting the ship to sink? By torpedo? When they expected it to be sunk? In the place they expected it? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 402 Registered: 8-2006 |
plebian, I dont think the torpedoes are relevant anymore It was an English passenger ship, and there were americans onboard. | ||
| Arun_balaram (Arun_balaram)
New member Username: Arun_balaram Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2006 |
september 11th attack on the world trade center | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 146 Registered: 8-2006 |
So, a German U-boat sunk an enemy ship, correct? Yes By torpedo. Yes Was this an enemy warship? Yes Or a passenger ship belonging to the enemy? No Or another type, e.g. oil tanker? No Was this a ship which the Germans expected to sink? By torpedo? When they expected to sink it? In the place they expected to sink it? No, they didn't expect the ship at all Were the enemy (of the Germans) expecting the ship to sink? By torpedo? No When they expected it to be sunk? In the place they expected it? umm aren't these supposed to be yes and no questions? plebian, I dont think the torpedoes are relevant anymore It was an English passenger ship, and there were americans onboard. wrong september 11th attack on the world trade center No | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 147 Registered: 8-2006 |
Maybe i wasn't clear, what I want is where and what was unexpected. | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 794 Registered: 7-2006 |
I'll rephrase Were the enemy of the Germans expecting a torpedo to hit their ship? If so: Were they expecting it in the place where it happened? Were they expecting it at the time that it happened? Were the Germans expecting the torpedo they fired to hit a ship? the specific ship that was hit? | ||
| Brightkite (Brightkite)
New member Username: Brightkite Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2006 |
it is German, Bismarck during the WWII.yes?? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 148 Registered: 8-2006 |
Were the enemy of the Germans expecting a torpedo to hit their ship? This ship realy doesn't have anything to do with where the unexpected thing happend. But No they were not. If so: Were they expecting it in the place where it happened? Not realy Were they expecting it at the time that it happened? No Were the Germans expecting the torpedo they fired to hit a ship? Yes the specific ship that was hit? Yes Brightkite (Brightkite) New member Username: Brightkite Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2006 Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 8:15 pm: it is German, Bismarck during the WWII.yes?? WWII yes, but Bismark no. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 407 Registered: 8-2006 |
This has been unactive for a bit. lets attempt this... Where: Atlantic ocean, near England? What was unexpected: The attack? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 149 Registered: 8-2006 |
This has been unactive for a bit. lets attempt this... Where: Atlantic ocean, No but quite near near England? Yep What was unexpected: The attack? right again | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 411 Registered: 8-2006 |
English channel then? It was an English ship that was sunk? Was in unexpected to the USA, Greaat Britian, or germany? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 150 Registered: 8-2006 |
English channel then? Yep It was an English ship that was sunk? Was in unexpected to the USA, Greaat Britian, or germany? The ship sinking has almost nothing to do with it, but yes it was unexpected to the USA and Great Britian. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 432 Registered: 8-2006 |
So, they thought that no u-boat coulod get in the channel? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 151 Registered: 8-2006 |
So, they thought that no u-boat coulod get in the channel? I THOUGHT I told you that the boats have almost nothing to do with what is unexpected | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 434 Registered: 8-2006 |
hey, you asked us where! anyways... relevant which war? did this truly happen? The english were not expecting that the germans had been expecting for a while? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 154 Registered: 8-2006 |
hey, you asked us where! anyways... relevant which war? did this truly happen? Yes The english were not expecting that the germans had been expecting for a while? ? I'm not sure what you mean. | ||
| Puzzlicious (Puzzlicious)
New member Username: Puzzlicious Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2006 |
So the US and Britain expected the ship to be attacked, but not sink? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 155 Registered: 8-2006 |
So the US and Britain expected the ship to be attacked, but not sink? Nope thats not it, i already said that the ship has very little to do with the puzzle. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 447 Registered: 8-2006 |
Tey thought they were safe from harm? They thought there was no way for the Germans to attack them? | ||
| Puzzlicious (Puzzlicious)
New member Username: Puzzlicious Post Number: 32 Registered: 11-2006 |
Did they think the German ship actually had Ally troops? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 156 Registered: 8-2006 |
Tey thought they were safe from harm? They thought there was no way for the Germans to attack them? Ok here is a hint, the germans where surprised about what the allies did. Did they think the German ship actually had Ally troops? ? no | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 194 Registered: 10-2006 |
Are we talking about D-day? (I mean, perhaps an allied ship was sunk by a German U-boat during that operation, I've no idea) Anyway, let's get clear about some specificities here: The expected thing which was unexpected when it happened: was it expected by the allies? some particular group among the allies? the Brits? the Russians? was it expected by the Germans? some particular group among the Germans? some particular German ally/allies? Some particular (exile) government(s) of some territory occupied by the Germans? The way it was unexpected when it happened: Was it unexpected that it would happen at that particular point in time? Or the particular way in which it happened? Or that it would happen at that particular place? (By the way, is the event confined to some clearly delimitable geographical place/area?) Or was it expected by some people but not expected by some other group of people? When it happened, it was unexpected (for some particular meaning of "unexpected"): was it not expected among the allies? some particular group among the allies? the Brits? the Russians? was it not expected by the Germans? some particular group among the Germans? some particular German ally/allies? Some particular (exile) government(s) of some territory occupied by the Germans? The character of the expected/unexpected event: Was it some kind of military operation? A declaration of war? A surrender? An air attack? OK, that's enough for now, I believe. | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 195 Registered: 10-2006 |
Oh, I forgot about your hint above. So it was the Germans who were expecting it but at the same time were surprised in some way when it happened... well, that sounds a bit like D-day, then.... | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 505 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was a corpse relevant? Misinformation? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 157 Registered: 8-2006 |
Are we talking about D-day? Yes! It was D-Day, Now where was the unexpected thing? (I mean, perhaps an allied ship was sunk by a German U-boat during that operation, I've no idea) Nope thats not it Anyway, let's get clear about some specificities here: The expected thing which was unexpected when it happened: Yep was it expected by the allies? The allies planned the invasion so yes they expected it. some particular group among the allies? the Brits? the Russians? Nope, although the britts where in the invasion was it expected by the Germans? Yes, the germans expected an invasion. But where and when was unknown some particular group among the Germans? nope some particular German ally/allies? Nope again Some particular (exile) government(s) of some territory occupied by the Germans? No The way it was unexpected when it happened: Was it unexpected that it would happen at that particular point in time? Yes, and now where did it happen? Or the particular way in which it happened? Well yes to that too Or that it would happen at that particular place? (By the way, is the event confined to some clearly delimitable geographical place/area?)Yes it is Or was it expected by some people but not expected by some other group of people? nope When it happened, it was unexpected (for some particular meaning of "unexpected"): was it not expected among the allies? some particular group among the allies? the Brits? the Russians? No to all was it not expected by the Germans? some Well the d-day invasion was unexpected by the germans, at the point in time it happened, but they did expect it to come sometime soon. particular group among the Germans? some particular German ally/allies? Some particular (exile) government(s) of some territory occupied by the Germans? Yep The character of the expected/unexpected event: Was it some kind of military operation? Yep A declaration of war? Nope A surrender? An air attack? OK, that's enough for now, I believe. Lol ok, good post!  Oh, I forgot about your hint above. So it was the Germans who were expecting it but at the same time were surprised in some way when it happened... well, that sounds a bit like D-day, then.... lol yep Was a corpse relevant? ? No. Misinformation? Nope | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 215 Registered: 10-2006 |
OK, so as far as I know the landing was somewhere in Normandie, and as I've heard on documentaries the Germans weren't expecting it there because there were high cliffs and stuff and the place was generally easy to defend. So for that reason they hadn't put as much resources into the coast guard system at that place, but of course the allies still lost a huge lot of troops that day and it took a very long time and much slaughter before they had won some little piece of the coast. It's a little bit the same thing as when the Germans circumpassed the well-defended Maginot line and attacked France through some swampy wood that was thought impossible to penetrate with armoured vehicles. I don't know whether the Germans expected the landing to happen on some specific other place, but of course I guess they had some theories about that. All they knew was that it wouldn't happen where it happened. So, that's what little I know about D-day. Should we ask more questions about the specifics? | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 216 Registered: 10-2006 |
Oh, wait a minute! Some other vague memory is bubbling up in my mind: Wasn't there some smaller fake attack by the allies somewhere else on the same day? | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 158 Registered: 8-2006 |
Oh, wait a minute! Some other vague memory is bubbling up in my mind: Wasn't there some smaller fake attack by the allies somewhere else on the same day? Um, not what I was talking about, but there could have been. | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 172 Registered: 8-2006 |
Oops, didn't see this post. Sorry. OK, so as far as I know the landing was somewhere in Normandie, Yes! and as I've heard on documentaries the Germans weren't expecting it there because there were high cliffs and stuff and the place was generally easy to defend. So for that reason they hadn't put as much resources into the coast guard system at that place, but of course the allies still lost a huge lot of troops that day and it took a very long time and much slaughter before they had won some little piece of the coast. It's a little bit the same thing as when the Germans circumpassed the well-defended Maginot line and attacked France through some swampy wood that was thought impossible to penetrate with armoured vehicles. I don't know whether the Germans expected the landing to happen on some specific other place, but of course I guess they had some theories about that. All they knew was that it wouldn't happen where it happened. So, that's what little I know about D-day. Should we ask more questions about the specifics? Nope, going to post spoiler now | ||
| Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums Post Number: 173 Registered: 8-2006 |
*****SPOILER***** The D-day invasion was expected by the Germans. But the time and place was unknown. The invasion was on a cold rainy day and the point where the allies landed (Normandy) was the widest point in the English Channel. Adding to the allies surprise. |
