| Author | Message | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 419 Registered: 12-2004 |
Adam said something to Joan which incorrectly gave her the impression that he had old fashioned values. However, no misunderstanding of what Adam said was involved. | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3175 Registered: 12-2000 |
Did he say 'after you' when they were going through a doorway? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 421 Registered: 12-2004 |
Lynne (Lynne) Did he say 'after you' when they were going through a doorway? No, not that quickie! | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3179 Registered: 12-2000 |
Was it something to do with etiquette? Faith? Morals? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 424 Registered: 12-2004 |
Lynne (Lynne) Was it something to do with etiquette? Faith? Morals? This | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3182 Registered: 12-2000 |
Did he appear altruistic in what he said, but he actually had a selfish motive for saying it? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 427 Registered: 12-2004 |
Lynne (Lynne) Did he appear altruistic in what he said, but he actually had a selfish motive for saying it? No, it was just a statement of fact | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3185 Registered: 12-2000 |
Was he saying something about someone else? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 430 Registered: 12-2004 |
Lynne (Lynne) Was he saying something about someone else? No, he was talking about her, but there are other people involved | ||
| Cookie (Cookie)
New member Username: Cookie Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2003 |
Is Adam old fashioned? Are the clothes Joan wears relevant? Something about her legal state? About the way she acts? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 431 Registered: 12-2004 |
Cookie (Cookie) Is Adam old fashioned? No Are the clothes Joan wears relevant? No Something about her legal state? Not sure what you mean...explain? About the way she acts? The implied 'old fashionedness concerns the way she acts | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3187 Registered: 12-2000 |
Does Joan deliberately act in this 'old fashioned' way or does she only realise it when Adam talked about her? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 434 Registered: 12-2004 |
Lynne (Lynne) Does Joan deliberately act in this 'old fashioned' way or does she only realise it when Adam talked about her? No, she doesn't act in any way at all - but she thinks that he has assumed certain actions of hers and reacted in an old fashioned way | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3190 Registered: 12-2000 |
Her actions - do they involve anything she says? To do with morals - sexual morals? Returning lost property? Other 'being honest' situations? Speaking the truth? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 437 Registered: 12-2004 |
Lynne (Lynne) Her actions - do they involve anything she says? No To do with morals - sexual morals? This Returning lost property? Other 'being honest' situations? Speaking the truth? And none of the others | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3195 Registered: 12-2000 |
Did she not want to sleep with him? And he assumed that it was for traditional reasons? But in fact she didn't want to, no way, not ever? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 440 Registered: 12-2004 |
Lynne (Lynne) Did she not want to sleep with him? And he assumed that it was for traditional reasons? But in fact she didn't want to, no way, not ever? Their sleeping together was never an issue | ||
| Stuccosalt (Stuccosalt)
New member Username: Stuccosalt Post Number: 558 Registered: 8-2004 |
Did she assume that something he said was a matter of choice, when it was not (e.g. she assumed he 'saved himself' for marriage)? Is their relationship relavent? Did the statement involve dating? Relationships? Any physical actions? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 442 Registered: 12-2004 |
Stuccosalt (Stuccosalt) Did she assume that something he said was a matter of choice, when it was not (e.g. she assumed he 'saved himself' for marriage)? No, but you're OTRT Is their relationship relavent? Yes Did the statement involve dating? Relationships? Yes Any physical actions? No | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3199 Registered: 12-2000 |
Was she abstaining for health reasons? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 443 Registered: 12-2004 |
Lynne (Lynne) Was she abstaining for health reasons? No, and bear in mind he didn't think she was old fashioned, she thought that he was old fashioned from what he said | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3200 Registered: 12-2000 |
Did he come over as a gentleman in what he said? Was he abstaining for health reasons? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 444 Registered: 12-2004 |
Lynne (Lynne) Did he come over as a gentleman in what he said? No, she was (or could have been) offended Was he abstaining for health reasons? No | ||
| Puzzlicious (Puzzlicious)
New member Username: Puzzlicious Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2006 |
Did he make a comment about himself (eg I never kiss and tell)? Or about her? Another woman? Or women in general? What he said would be taken as offensive by most women today? but he didn't mean it in an offensive way? | ||
| Ludo (Ludo)
New member Username: Ludo Post Number: 32 Registered: 11-2006 |
he said sommething like : "Are you Virgin" or "This needs a Virgin Person"  ab imo pectore Ludo | ||
| Emptyhead (Emptyhead)
New member Username: Emptyhead Post Number: 17 Registered: 6-2006 |
Are Adam and Joan related? Is it possible Joan would not have misunderstood Adam if they were related/not related? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 445 Registered: 12-2004 |
Puzzlicious (Puzzlicious) Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 1:22 am: Did he make a comment about himself (eg I never kiss and tell)? Or about her? This Another woman? Or women in general? What he said would be taken as offensive by most women today? No, in context it could be mildly offensive in the right context but he didn't mean it in an offensive way? He had genuine reasons for saying it Ludo (Ludo) Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 1:14 pm: he said sommething like : "Are you Virgin" No, but vaguely OTRT or "This needs a Virgin Person" Emptyhead (Emptyhead) Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 1:15 pm: Are Adam and Joan related? No Is it possible Joan would not have misunderstood Adam if they were related/not related? If they were related, the situation would be very unlikely to arise | ||
| Cookie (Cookie)
New member Username: Cookie Post Number: 73 Registered: 10-2003 |
Did he propose to her? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 446 Registered: 12-2004 |
Cookie (Cookie) Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 5:47 pm: Did he propose to her? No | ||
| Cookie (Cookie)
New member Username: Cookie Post Number: 78 Registered: 10-2003 |
Are they friends? Lovers? Did he say anything about the way she interacts with men? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 447 Registered: 12-2004 |
Cookie (Cookie) Are they friends? Yope Lovers? No Did he say anything about the way she interacts with men? Yope...this is something to do with it | ||
| Cookie (Cookie)
New member Username: Cookie Post Number: 87 Registered: 10-2003 |
Is it relevant what age they have? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 448 Registered: 12-2004 |
Cookie (Cookie) Is it relevant what age they have? Yesish to yes. Yes, infact | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 777 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is he teenaged? 20s? 30s? 40s?...etc... Same for her. Birth control relevant? Monogamy? Polygamy? Marriage? Homosexuality? Pornography? Abortion? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 449 Registered: 12-2004 |
Beccaann (Beccaann) Is he teenaged? 20s? 30s? 40s?...etc... He is somewhere in his 20s, 30s or early 40s. She is roughly the same age Same for her. Birth control relevant? Yes to yope Monogamy? Polygamy? Marriage? YES Homosexuality? Pornography? Abortion? No to the rest | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 450 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hint: They are old school acquaintances who have met up in their late 20s | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 451 Registered: 12-2004 |
by chance | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 452 Registered: 12-2004 |
**********RECAP************ Adam and Joan meet by chance about ten years after leaving school (they were in the same class). They have a discussion involving Joan's current situation, during which Adam makes a comment which leads Joan to believe he holds old fashioned opinions. In fact, he says what he says for a completely logical reason and doesn't realise at the time how it might sound | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 511 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did Joan have children with her? near her? A husband with her? A man near her who could have been thought to be with her? Did Adam say something like "I see you're married" based on seeing what he thought was a family group - whereas Joan thought he was assuming she wouldn't have a child if she weren't married? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 1937 Registered: 2-2001 |
Putting "Quickie" or "This should go quickly" in the puzzle statement always causes a puzzle to go on and on, you know that. And putting it in the puzzle title, well, that's just asking for a never-ending puzzle. Does she have children? If so, are their ages relevant? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 454 Registered: 12-2004 |
Sunshine (Sunshine) Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 7:29 pm: Did Joan have children with her? Yope near her? same yope as before A husband with her? No - good question A man near her who could have been thought to be with her? No Did Adam say something like "I see you're married" based on seeing what he thought was a family group - whereas Joan thought he was assuming she wouldn't have a child if she weren't married? This is very close...just a couple more details Bodo (Bodo) Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 3:46 pm: Putting "Quickie" or "This should go quickly" in the puzzle statement always causes a puzzle to go on and on, you know that. And putting it in the puzzle title, well, that's just asking for a never-ending puzzle. I know - next time I think I will have to add 'This one will go on until next year Does she have children? Yope If so, are their ages relevant? YES | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 1941 Registered: 2-2001 |
Step children? Does he ask if they are hers? Are they old enough to've been born when she was still in school? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 455 Registered: 12-2004 |
Bodo (Bodo) Step children? No Does he ask if they are hers? Are they old enough to've been born when she was still in school? No, but good idea | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 17 Registered: 9-2003 |
does she have one child? is the child/are the children over 5? 10? 15? 20? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 456 Registered: 12-2004 |
~damia~ (~damia~) Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 12:49 pm: does she have one child? Yope is the child/are the children over 5? 10? 15? 20? No to all | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 527 Registered: 1-2001 |
So she's pregnant? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 457 Registered: 12-2004 |
Sunshine (Sunshine) Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 7:54 pm: So she's pregnant? YES! | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 25 Registered: 9-2003 |
so he saw she was pregnant and said something like so when are you getting married? or when did you get married? | ||
| Cookie (Cookie)
New member Username: Cookie Post Number: 189 Registered: 10-2003 |
Or: "Is your husband with you"? | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 531 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did Joan have a regular boyfriend at school? Was she engaged? | ||
| Sebastepistis (Sebastepistis)
New member Username: Sebastepistis Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2006 |
Is Joan a lesbian? Is Joan pregnant via in vitro fertilization or from a sperm donor? Does Adam assume that she's married to the father of the child? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 459 Registered: 12-2004 |
~damia~ (~damia~) Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 3:19 pm: so he saw she was pregnant and said something like so when are you getting married? or when did you get married? <b>Yes - the exact situation was that Adam looked surprised that Joan was pregnant and said "Congratulations!". Joan asked (assuming the ex-school grapevine was still running) "So you didn't know I was pregnant?". Adam: "I didn't even know you were married!" Cookie (Cookie) Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 3:21 pm: Or: "Is your husband with you"? No Sunshine (Sunshine) Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 8:12 pm: Did Joan have a regular boyfriend at school? Was she engaged? No, or irrelevant to these Sebastepistis (Sebastepistis) Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 12:32 pm: Is Joan a lesbian? Is Joan pregnant via in vitro fertilization or from a sperm donor? No to these Does Adam assume that she's married to the father of the child? Yes, that is how the comment comes across. However, Joan actually is! So you know now what Adam's comment was and how it seemed old fashioned - the only question is, he's not, so why did he say it? | ||
| Cookie (Cookie)
New member Username: Cookie Post Number: 207 Registered: 10-2003 |
Did he see her wedding ring? Did he meet her husband right before? Did someone tell him she is married right before? | ||
| Katy (Katy)
New member Username: Katy Post Number: 460 Registered: 12-2004 |
Cookie (Cookie) Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 8:43 am: Did he see her wedding ring? YES! Did he meet her husband right before? Did someone tell him she is married right before? ********** SPOILER *********** Adam bumped into a heavily pregnant Joan in a shopping centre about ten years after they had both left school. Assuming the school grapevine would still be running, Joan was surprised to learn he didn't already know she was pregnant. "So you didn't know I was pregnant" asked Joan, rubbing her bump with her left hand, at which point Adam spotted her wedding ring. "No - I didn't even know you'd got married" Thanks for playing everyone |
