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Rufus (Rufus)
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Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 5:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think it's an old puzzle, perhaps many people know it already???

A young man was told to go to the ninth floor of a building. He went to the tenth floor instead and was hired.
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well, I don't know - yet
The young man is human? same as 'he'?

Would he been hired if he went to the ninth floor? Does ninth floor exist? Does he go straight to tenth floor? Does it matter whether he takes the elevator or the stairs?
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The young man is human? same as 'he'? yes to both

Would he been hired if he went to the ninth floor? no Does ninth floor exist? yes Does he go straight to tenth floor?yes Does it matter whether he takes the elevator or the stairs?no
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Is it actually his intention to get hired?
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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Oh, I am pretty sure I know this one but in a different format. I won't spiol, but I will ask one question. Is Morse code relevant?
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Is it actually his intention to get hired? yes

Oh, I am pretty sure I know this one but in a different format. I won't spiol, but I will ask one question. Is Morse code relevant? although Morse code is not relevant in the version I know, it could perhaps be a variant of the same puzzle
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Check your E-mail
Rufus (Rufus)
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could you send to hcchoi88105048@hotmail.com? my old account got messed up
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Is whoever hired him the same person/people who told him to go to the ninth floor?
Rufus (Rufus)
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Is whoever hired him the same person/people who told him to go to the ninth floor?yes
Rufus (Rufus)
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Is whoever hired him the same person/people who told him to go to the ninth floor?yes

sorry, got my bolds and italics mixed up
Rufus (Rufus)
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Craypalpig's version of the puzzle is similar to this one
Eli (Eli)
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Were the persons that told thim to go the ninth floor, and hiring him because he went to the tenth instead, actually putting him through a test of some sort?
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Is his job relevant?
Rufus (Rufus)
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Were the persons that told thim to go the ninth floor, and hiring him because he went to the tenth instead, actually putting him through a test of some sort?yes

Is his job relevant?yes
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Is his job;

medicine/health?
law?
education/teaching?
civil servant?
politics?
retail/sales?
IT?
finance?
hotel/cafe/restaurant?
criminal?
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Just to tell you I found my variation on this network in solved puzzles.
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medicine/health?
law?
education/teaching?
civil servant?
politics?
retail/sales?
IT?
finance?
hotel/cafe/restaurant?
criminal?
none of the above, I'm afraid

Just to tell you I found my variation on this network in solved puzzles.
- Yes, I thought this story or concept is not new. Just wasn't sure it was played here before or not.
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Well, I don't know it, at least don't recognize it yet

His job;
entertainer?
builder?
plumber?
carpenter?
other type of tradesman?
engineer?
receptionist?
Rufus (Rufus)
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Well, I don't know it, at least don't recognize it yet
- yup, glad to hear that, let's play on!


His job;
entertainer?
builder?
plumber?
carpenter?
other type of tradesman?
engineer?
receptionist?
nope, none of the above either...it's not a common profession
Eli (Eli)
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Hey, just got an idea..

Was he a magician?
Rufus (Rufus)
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Hey, just got an idea..

Was he a magician?sorry, but it's a good idea
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Not a magician either, sigh...

window cleaner?
elevator operator (or whatever they are called)?
escape artist?
circus artist?

Would other people have problems going to the tenth floor? Does the tenth floor actually exist?
Rufus (Rufus)
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Not a magician either, sigh... nope

window cleaner?
elevator operator (or whatever they are called)? they are probably called...elevator operators?
escape artist?
circus artist?
no to all

Would other people have problems going to the tenth floor? most likelyDoes the tenth floor actually exist?yes it does
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Is it relevant that floors are numbered differently in British and American english?
Rufus (Rufus)
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Is it relevant that floors are numbered differently in British and American english?no
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If I went into that building and pressed the buttion for the tenth floor, would the elevator stop there? Is there a button for the tenth floor?
Rufus (Rufus)
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If I went into that building and pressed the buttion for the tenth floor, would the elevator stop there? Is there a button for the tenth floor?the elevator is a regular one that goes at least up to the tenth floor, and there is nothing wrong with its function
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And since Rufus told me the answer, I can tell you are concentrating waaay to much on the elevater
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Is the job:


artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
Eli (Eli)
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If I had taken the elevator to the tenth floor, would I then have been able to walk out there? Would I have had any objections to do so?

Is it relevant what is on the tenth floor?
Rufus (Rufus)
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And since Rufus told me the answer, I can tell you are concentrating waaay to much on the elevater that is very true...there is nothing relevant about the very normal elevator.

But the job is very relevant, and...


Is the job:


artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government it's this one!!! / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?

If I had taken the elevator to the tenth floor, would I then have been able to walk out there? nothing wrong with the floor of the building as wellWould I have had any objections to do so? so there wouldn't be any objection relevant to the puzzle

Is it relevant what is on the tenth floor?no
Rufus (Rufus)
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Hey Paul, sorry this was spo$led for you. Your solution was very close in concept that I'd thought I'd share it with you first. Hope you didn't mind that
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Is he running for an office? President? minister? Relevant where it happens? When it happens?
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Is he running for an office? President? minister? no to above...I would classify those under Politics Relevant where it happens? When it happens?no to both
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is he a spy?

was he set a task of just 'going to the ninth floor'? or was he told to go to the ninth floor and do something there? or obtain something there?
did he make the decision that he could best accomplish the goal he was given by going to the tenth floor?
did he learn something between starting out for the ninth floor and getting there that told him to go to the tenth floor instead?
was it a test of initiative? of knowledge? of courage?
could he actually have reached the ninth floor?
did he realise that, to get to the ninth floor he needed to go to the tenth floor first?

should we be finding out more about the building?
does it belong to the people who hired him? is it a Government building? a public building? an apartment block?
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did he go to the tenth floor then walk down stairs to the ninth?
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'Tis fine. And couldn't the job be described to some as criminal?
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Kdoc, I'll just tell you, the spy idea is correcthope you do't mind that Rufus
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No problem at all, I think Kdoc pretty much nailed it in the post, so I think we are close enough for a

**************SPOILER*************

The young man was told to take an envelope to the ninth floor for his interview for a job as a spy. His spying nature prompted him to open the envelope to peek inside. The envelope contained a message to tell him to go to the tenth floor instead. So in effect, everyone who went to the ninth floor was eliminated because they did not show the nature to be a good spy...Our young man in the puzzle did, and won the job.


I thought about the question about criminal as well, and it would work as well, but I thought it may throw in some FA's in there, so I kind of avoided it.

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