| Author | Message | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 662 Registered: 3-2006 |
They steal our idea, and don't even pay us! | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 270 Registered: 11-2003 |
Are they? and us? human adults? If so, relevant what gender? They=us; different nationalities? companies? religions? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 663 Registered: 3-2006 |
Are they? and us? human adults? yes to both If so, relevant what gender? no They=us; different nationalities? this one companies? religions? not these | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 271 Registered: 11-2003 |
Is location relevant? or could this happen anywhere? Era relevant? Is it a historic event? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 664 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is location relevant? yes or could this happen anywhere? not anywhere, no Era relevant? yes Is it a historic event? not in the usual sense | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 272 Registered: 11-2003 |
Is it a true story? FYOI? Location; Europe? America? Africa? Asia? Australia? Era; 21st century? 20th? 19th? Middle ages - 18th? 0 - middle ages? BC? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 666 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it a true story? this FYOI? Location; Europe? yes America? yes Africa? no Asia? no Australia? no Era; 21st century? this 20th? 19th? Middle ages - 18th? 0 - middle ages? BC? no to rest | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 24 Registered: 1-2007 |
Europe = they? Europe = us? America (North or South?) = they? America (North or South?) = us? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 668 Registered: 3-2006 |
Europe = they? Europe = us? this America (North this or South? not this) = they? this America (North or South?) = us? | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 25 Registered: 1-2007 |
they: USA? Canada? Mexico? us: France? Part of the UK? Germany? Spain? Italy? Poland? Belgium? Russia? Sweden? Norway? Finland? Portugal? Austria? Czech. Republic? Slovakia? Greece? Denmark? Latvia? Lithuania? Bosnia and Herzegovina? Belarus? Other? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 669 Registered: 3-2006 |
they: USA? this one us: Part of the UK? this one | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2007 |
us: Scotland? Northern Ireland? Wales? England? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 671 Registered: 3-2006 |
us: Scotland? Northern Ireland? Wales? England? this one | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 30 Registered: 1-2007 |
was the idea that of an invention? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 274 Registered: 11-2003 |
Sports releavant? music? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 674 Registered: 3-2006 |
was the idea that of an invention? yes, I suppose you could call it an invention of sorts, though hardly of the Leonardo/Edison type Sports releavant? music? neither of these | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 37 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is it a certain method of doing something? i.e. a better alternative than the existing method? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 675 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it a certain method of doing something? i.e. a better alternative than the existing method? It's certainly a way of doing things, but whether it's better or worse will depend on your point of view | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 38 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is it destructive? Harmful to anyone/anything? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 676 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it destructive? Let's say no, though some may disagree Harmful to anyone/anything? Likewise: let's say no, though not everyone will agree | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 40 Registered: 1-2007 |
Let me rephrase: Harmful to humans? Harmful to any insects, non-human animals or plants? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 679 Registered: 3-2006 |
Let me rephrase: Harmful to humans? not physically harmful to anyone, no Harmful to any insects, non-human animals or plants? not at all | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 44 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did USA claim to have discovered/invented something that England had done so originally? (This has happened with rice. America claimed to have discovered it but India proved that they had been growing it for a long time.) | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 680 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did USA claim to have discovered/invented something that England had done so originally? no: the Americans concerned have acknowledged their debt to the relevant English people for the idea (This has happened with rice. America claimed to have discovered it but India proved that they had been growing it for a long time.) | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 45 Registered: 1-2007 |
World Wide Web? Invented by Tim Berners-Lee. | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 681 Registered: 3-2006 |
World Wide Web? Invented by Tim Berners-Lee. Nothing to do with this, I'm afraid | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 46 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is it used commonly everyday by many people? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 682 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it used commonly everyday by many people? It's an idea, rather than an object, so it isn't really "used". Let's say that it is something that applies to many people. | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1224 Registered: 6-2006 |
methods of government relevant? economic systems relevant? or is it smaller scale than this? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 683 Registered: 3-2006 |
methods of government relevant? yes, vaguely economic systems relevant? yes, I suppose you could say so or is it smaller scale than this? Hmmm ... it depends what governmental/economic systems you have in mind | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1226 Registered: 6-2006 |
anything to do with taxes? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 684 Registered: 3-2006 |
anything to do with taxes? yes, for some vv of "taxes" | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1227 Registered: 6-2006 |
It's always the questions that seem straightforward that get the most confusing answers... So, economic systems and taxes both are at least vaguely connected...would I be right to say that money is relevant? Is this some sort of public policy? law? political initiative? anything along these lines? Would this affect the average person on a daily basis? Every once in a while? Rarely? Never? Are some people more affected by this than others? If so, people in certain professions? certain income levels? age? gender? marital status? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 686 Registered: 3-2006 |
It's always the questions that seem straightforward that get the most confusing answers... Yes, it often seems that way So, economic systems and taxes both are at least vaguely connected absolutely...would I be right to say that money is relevant? indeed Is this some sort of public policy? yes law? yes political initiative? yes anything along these lines? yes! Would this affect the average person on a daily basis? some may be affected frequently, if not every single day Every once in a while? some this Rarely? some this Never? and some this ... it all depends on people's circumstances Are some people more affected by this than others? yes! If so, people in certain professions? possibly, but this is not the defining reason for their being more or less affected by this law/initiative/policy certain income levels? likewise age? likewise gender? this is less likely to make a difference marital status? and this is almost entirely irrelevant | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 43 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is it related to: Internet sales tax? Tariffs? Import / export tax? Highway tolls? What is "svv" and "vv" ? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 688 Registered: 3-2006 |
Highway tolls? yes What is "svv" and "vv" ? some values [of] ... I think | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1228 Registered: 6-2006 |
I believe svv means "sufficiently vague values," and vv just "vague values." | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 48 Registered: 4-2007 |
So is "highway tolls" the answer, or are we still looking for something else, like a surcharge for driving into a large city? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 691 Registered: 3-2006 |
I believe svv means "sufficiently vague values," and vv just "vague values." Ah yes, this rings a bell. So is "highway tolls" the answer, or are we still looking for something else, like a surcharge for driving into a large city? yes! this is certainly involved: to solve the puzzle, you'd need to know who is doing the stealing, and who isn't doing the paying | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1231 Registered: 6-2006 |
London's congestion charge relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 692 Registered: 3-2006 |
London's congestion charge relevant? absolutely | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 120 Registered: 4-2007 |
Has a congestion charge been implemented in an American city? New York? Erm....maybe someone who knows a few more American cities than I do would like to step in now? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 698 Registered: 3-2006 |
Has a congestion charge been implemented in an American city? New York? Erm....maybe someone who knows a few more American cities than I do would like to step in now? No need: you have a hole-in-one! According to a news report this week, the Mayor of New York, Mr Bloomberg, is looking into the possibility of copying London's 'success' by introducing a congestion charge in Manhattan, from 86th St right down to the Staten Island Ferry. New Yorkers are not too happy. That's the first half of the puzzle done. As you're on a roll ... one more detail to go, to explain the statement/title. | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 122 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is there a reason why they should pay us? Just because we gave them the good idea? Or did England once take an idea from some other country and had to pay for it? Or do you mean that when the New Yorkers pay their congestion charges, the money will go to America rather than England? To be honest I was just asking the obvious next question after BeccaAnn's question...if this involves any actual knowledge about the congestion charge then I'm afraid I'm out, not living in London! | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 700 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is there a reason why they should pay us? yes Just because we gave them the good idea? no Or did England once take an idea from some other country and had to pay for it? No, not this: we Brits have a long tradition of stealing things. Take the Elgin Marbles, for instance =) Or do you mean that when the New Yorkers pay their congestion charges, the money will go to America rather than England? no, I don't mean this To be honest I was just asking the obvious next question after BeccaAnn's question...if this involves any actual knowledge about the congestion charge then I'm afraid I'm out, not living in London! Nothing specific about the charge, no: it's something anyone could guess. I don't live in London any more, either: the Congestion Charge being one good reason. | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 67 Registered: 4-2007 |
So the idea that England expects the payment for is not the Congestion Charge itself, but something related to it, right? A way surcharge is collected? Patent for the equipment used? Is acknowledged debt a literal one and can be paid in dollars or is it a figure of speech, a tribute to the inventors? | ||
| Huntinggirl (Huntinggirl)
New member Username: Huntinggirl Post Number: 73 Registered: 1-2006 |
Who should receive the payment, the English people? The English government? The political leaders of London? The "inventors" of the Congestion Charge (which I have no idea what it means!)? Woodworm? =) | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 714 Registered: 3-2006 |
So the idea that England expects the payment for is not the Congestion Charge itself actually this, but something related to it, right? A way surcharge is collected? Patent for the equipment used? none of these Is acknowledged debt a literal one and can be paid in dollars this or is it a figure of speech, a tribute to the inventors? Who should receive the payment, the English people? The English government? The political leaders of London? this The "inventors" of the Congestion Charge (which I have no idea what it means!)? It's just an annoying tax you have to pay if you drive into Central London Woodworm? =) not me, I'm afraid Almost there with this: just missing one faintly comical detail that explains the title & statement | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 188 Registered: 1-2007 |
Congestion Charge The US embassy currently (14 May 2006) owes £270,000 (approximately $500,000) in fines for non-payment. - wikipedia | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 715 Registered: 3-2006 |
**** SPOILER **** Well done. One of the week's sillier stories: on the day that Mayor Bloomberg announces that New York will adopt a congestion charge for driving into the city (having got the idea from London's Ken Livingstone) it emerges that the naughty American diplomats in London have been driving their gas-guzzlers in and out of London without paying their charges, claiming diplomatic immunity. Smack, smack. Incidentally, the source article claims "over a million pounds" in unpaid fines. Hey: what's £730,000 between friends? After all, everybody knows that Ken makes those charges up as he goes along. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1685451.ece | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 196 Registered: 1-2007 |
Nice puzzle. The statement effectively confuses us into believing that it is the idea that should be paid for. :-) |
