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Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Accordoing to a memoir by a man who spent several decades in prison, white-collar criminals, esp. embezzlers, are very unpopular with their fellow felons. How come??
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Is it to do with the crimes they committed? Is their some personality trait shared by white-collar criminals? Do the felons feel that embezzling is somehow more dishonest than other crimes?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Enjay (Enjay)
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Is it to do with the crimes they committed?yes Is their some personality trait shared by white-collar criminals?well-believed to be shared Do the felons feel that embezzling is somehow more dishonest than other crimes? yes
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Is it because embezzlement is seen as a sneaky underhand crime? as opposed to the their "daring" burglaries and armed robberies?
Peter365 (Peter365)
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another thought sorry!!

Do they feel that embezzlers tend to get softer sentences than they for essentially the same crime?
Lauren (Lauren)
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Hi! :D

Does it have to do with the motives or pre-existing situation of the white-collar criminals? Or the manner in which they commit crimes? Or the manner of their punishment? Are the other inmates jealous for some reason?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 6:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Peter365 (Peter365)
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Is it because embezzlement is seen as a sneaky underhand crime?yope as opposed to the their "daring" burglaries and armed robberies? no--"daring" is not the issue
Peter365 (Peter365)
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another thought sorry!!

Do they feel that embezzlers tend to get softer sentences than they for essentially the same crime? no
Lauren (Lauren)
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Hi! :D

Does it have to do with the motives no or pre-existing situation yesish oryope of the white-collar criminals? Or the manner in which they commit crimes? yesish Or the manner of their punishment? no Are the other inmates jealous for some reason? no
Enjay (Enjay)
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Is embezzling seen as deceitful and underhand whereas murder or burglary are less sneaky? Do they feel that embezzlement is "easy" so they look down on them because they were stupid enough to get caught? Do they feel that murder etc might have had a good motive or might be accidental, in self defence etc whereas embezzlement is a purely selfish crime for personal gain?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 7:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Enjay (Enjay)
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Is embezzling seen as deceitful yes and underhand whereas murder or burglary are less sneaky? Do they feel that embezzlement is "easy" so they look down on them because they were stupid enough to get caught? noDo they feel that murder etc might have had a good motive or might be accidental, in self defence etc whereas embezzlement is a purely selfish crime for personal gain? no--neither of those would be murder

{***SPOILER************
Many prisoners apparent;ly look down on embezzlers because embezzling involves betraying trust, while murder, etc. does not. Sorry it was sooeasy, but a harder one awaits you.
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 9:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice puzzle all the same Nimue. Quite thought provoking . As an aside a recent winner in the Sunday Times Crytic crossword competition sent in a clue for the word Embezzle. The clue read " Inappropriately appropriate". How clever is that

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