| Author | Message | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 93 Registered: 5-2007 |
While walking along the street today, I heard something that made me realize this particular street would be extremely dangerous for a certain segment of the population. | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 815 Registered: 9-2006 |
That population: the blind? Is this a big population? Do they share a medical condition? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 94 Registered: 5-2007 |
the blind? Yes Do they share a medical condition? Only that they're blind | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 182 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was there a background noise that would prevent blind people from hearing incoming traffic? Does the street have traffic lights with audio signaling? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 97 Registered: 5-2007 |
Was there a background noise that would prevent blind people from hearing incoming traffic? No Does the street have traffic lights with audio signaling? No, but close | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 186 Registered: 4-2007 |
Would the street be dangerous for any blind person, or only those who depend on guide dogs? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 98 Registered: 5-2007 |
Would the street be dangerous for any blind person, or only those who depend on guide dogs? Any blind person, but more so for those who do not depend on guide dogs. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 619 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it to do with sound? with using a cane? with those bumpy ground bits you get just before a zebra crossing? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 102 Registered: 5-2007 |
is it to do with sound? Yes with using a cane? No with those bumpy ground bits you get just before a zebra crossing? No | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 189 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was there a store selling car horns or bicycle bells? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 105 Registered: 5-2007 |
Was there a store selling car horns or bicycle bells? No. BLOOPER ALERT: The answer to "Does the street have traffic lights with audio signaling?" should be "Yes, for svv of "traffic lights"". | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 190 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is there a railroad crossing? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 88 Registered: 3-2007 |
Did you hear something that would cover up a sound that a blind person would need to hear? Would the sound cause a blind person to react in a way that would be dangerous? Does the sound indicate something that would be dangerous for a blind person? Would the sound cause a false sense of security for a blind person? Was the sound something that could be misinterpreted as something else by a blind person? Were the "traffic lights" inoperable or not working correctly? Did they give incorrect information that a blind person would not be able to know was incorrect? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 107 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is there a railroad crossing? No Did you hear something that would cover up a sound that a blind person would need to hear? No Would the sound cause a blind person to react in a way that would be dangerous? Yes Does the sound indicate something that would be dangerous for a blind person? No Would the sound cause a false sense of security for a blind person? Yes Was the sound something that could be misinterpreted as something else by a blind person? Yes Were the "traffic lights" inoperable or not working correctly? No Did they give incorrect information that a blind person would not be able to know was incorrect? Not incorrect, but could easily be misinterpreted. | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 194 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did the street have regular intersections? regular pedestrian crossings? Were these audio traffic controls human voice? clicking, bird-like sounds? sirens? something else? Was it difficult to figure out which part of the intersection each sound corresponds to? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 629 Registered: 9-2003 |
was something making a sound similar to the noise that indicates to blind people when its safe to cross the road? on a pelican crossing? or one of those you have to press the button? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 196 Registered: 4-2007 |
What's a pelican crossing? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 633 Registered: 9-2003 |
its one of the kind you have to press the button and when its safe to cross the little man turns green and it bleeps to help blind people - I don't know why they call that pelican before you ask :o) | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 111 Registered: 5-2007 |
Did the street have regular intersections? Yes regular pedestrian crossings? Yes Were these audio traffic controls human voice? Yes clicking, bird-like sounds? sirens? something else? Was it difficult to figure out which part of the intersection each sound corresponds to? Yes! was something making a sound similar to the noise that indicates to blind people when its safe to cross the road? Yope on a pelican crossing? Yes or one of those you have to press the button? Yes | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 199 Registered: 4-2007 |
Interesting... I have never seen a crossing with both buttons and sound controls. I did, however, see crossings that switch all automobile traffic lights to red and all pedestrian lights to green shortly after the button is pressed. This way it does not matter which way you are crossing. Another side comment: blind people usually have much better developed hearing than average Joe. | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 200 Registered: 4-2007 |
Does it matter what the voice says? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 113 Registered: 5-2007 |
Does it matter what the voice says? Yes | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 639 Registered: 9-2003 |
does it say something along the lines of it is now safe to cross the road? are there more than one of these? could someone stand at one and it not be safe to cross, while another a little way down the road says it is safe? or is it on a wider road where you cross halfway then have to wait again to cross the other half? so the second half could be saying it is safe, but its not safe to cross your half? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 116 Registered: 5-2007 |
Damia had it close enough. Spoiler: While trying to cross a street I heard the voice say "Walk sign is on". However I could easily see that the walk sign was off and there were cars going across. It turned out that the "Walk sign is on" was for the walk sign going the other direction, but a blind person would hav eno way of knowing that. | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 1152 Registered: 10-2008 |
I have seen this in several places. I feel like city planners cannot be that dumb, and that there's some way for the blind to figure out the direction. Perhaps there's a standard regulation that the voice has to come from a certain direction for certain sides of the street...still can't figure out quite how that would work. |
