| Author | Message | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 66 Registered: 9-2007 |
He lived... | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 144 Registered: 8-2007 |
He? H/A/M? someone famous? name relevant? lived - was alive? is alive? survived something? is the red v relevant? is the title relevant? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 69 Registered: 9-2007 |
He? H/A/M? Yes to all someone famous? IRR name relevant? IRR lived - was alive? is alive? survived something? Closest is this one is the red v relevant? Yope is the title relevant? Yes I'll mention that this is FMOI but a realistic situation | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 146 Registered: 8-2007 |
Is the entire quote that the title is from relevant? The person who said it? or just those words, sans context? are any of these relevant? the v? the colour red? the fact that the v is a different colour? the fact that the words are written in black and red? Was the fact that he lived normal? unusual? strange? good? bad? is anyone else relevant? any occupations relevant? any crimes/attempted crimes relevant? his location relevant? the date when he lived relevant? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 72 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is the entire quote that the title is from relevant? No The person who said it? No or just those words, sans context? Just the words, no context here. are any of these relevant? the v? Relevant as far as being used to spell 'lived' the colour red? IRR the fact that the v is a different colour? The colour could have been anything, the letter v had to be higlighted in some way... explore, im not giving this away that easy :-) the fact that the words are written in black and red? No, read above Was the fact that he lived normal? unusual? strange? good? bad? None of these are relevant to solving the puzzle. is anyone else relevant? Yes any occupations relevant? Yes any crimes/attempted crimes relevant? Yes, to both. his location relevant? Yes the date when he lived relevant? Not really | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 557 Registered: 6-2007 |
he lied? did he pay taxes? lie about taxes? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 692 Registered: 1-2007 |
So the V is relevant only in so far as it spells the word lived? could V represent anything else? roman numeral for 5? so your puzzle statement could read he lied about 5 or around 5? Anything to do with the Devil? Any other religeous connotations? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 74 Registered: 9-2007 |
he lied? Yes, well done! did he pay taxes? lie about taxes? This one You can now read the puzzle as "He lied. He lived" | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 75 Registered: 9-2007 |
So the V is relevant only in so far as it spells the word lived? could V represent anything else? roman numeral for 5? so your puzzle statement could read he lied about 5 or around 5? Anything to do with the Devil? Any other religeous connotations? None of these. Restart with then uncovered puzzle statement | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 76 Registered: 9-2007 |
*the | ||
| Alanlin (Alanlin)
New member Username: Alanlin Post Number: 3 Registered: 6-2007 |
Ok, so because a man lied about his taxes, he lived? would he have died if he had told the truth? A violent death? If so, a murder? Did he lie to the IRS (as in, on his tax return)? Or to someone else? Did he lie about a specific tax? Sales tax? Property tax? Estate tax? Did he lie about his relationship to somebody on a tax form? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 89 Registered: 9-2007 |
Ok, so because a man lied about his taxes, he lived? Yes, Butterfly effect-wise would he have died if he had told the truth? Probably A violent death? Yes If so, a murder? Yes Did he lie to the IRS (as in, on his tax return)? Yes Or to someone else? Did he lie about a specific tax? His own income tax, IRR though Sales tax? Property tax? Estate tax? Did he lie about his relationship to somebody on a tax form? No | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 914 Registered: 9-2003 |
would he have been murdered by someone he worked with? a family member? someone who saw his tax return? is his job relevant? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 97 Registered: 9-2007 |
would he have been murdered by someone he worked with? No a family member? No someone who saw his tax return? No is his job relevant? Yes | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 159 Registered: 8-2007 |
right, I've just twigged to the whole lied/lived thing with the highlighted V. need more sleep, but first... location - Nth America? Sth America? Europe? Asia? Africa? Australia? Antarctica? ISS? Is his job completely legal? is his job his only source of income? Does he do anything illegal? Does he cover for anything illegal? Is any organized crime involved? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 99 Registered: 9-2007 |
right, I've just twigged to the whole lied/lived thing with the highlighted V. need more sleep, but first...lol been there location - Nth America? This one Sth America? Europe? Asia? Africa? Australia? Antarctica? ISS? Is his job completely legal? Yes is his job his only source of income? Main source, other sources IRR Does he do anything illegal? Well yeah, if evading tax is illegal ;-) Does he cover for anything illegal? Yes, read above sleepyhead :-D Is any organized crime involved? No | ||
| Elness (Elness)
New member Username: Elness Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2007 |
My first post, so apologies in advance if I violate any rules of etiquette or form: With his falsified tax return, did he owe money to the IRS? Or did the IRS owe him money? Had he completed his tax return truthfully, would he have owed money to the IRS? Or would the IRS have owed him? Had he completed his taxes truthfully, how soon thereafter would his violent murder occurred? After completing them? After sending/submitting them? After the IRS received them? After the IRS processed them? If after IRS processing, how long after? 1 day? 1 week? 1 month? 1 year? Longer? | ||
| Alanlin (Alanlin)
New member Username: Alanlin Post Number: 5 Registered: 6-2007 |
Did he purposely lie on his tax return? If so, specifically because he knew it would save his own life? His would-be murderers: one person? several people? someone he knew? Is he trying to conceal his identity? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 103 Registered: 9-2007 |
@ElnessWelcome m8, I'm pretty new myself... it's a blast! My first post, so apologies in advance if I violate any rules of etiquette or form: With his falsified tax return, did he owe money to the IRS? Yes Or did the IRS owe him money? So, no Had he completed his tax return truthfully, would he have owed money to the IRS? No Or would the IRS have owed him? N/A Had he completed his taxes truthfully, how soon thereafter would his violent murder occurred? After completing them? After sending/submitting them? After the IRS received them? After the IRS processed them? If after IRS processing, how long after? 1 day? 1 week? 1 month? 1 year? Longer? Let's arbitrarily take it that the D-day was a week after he filed his taxes. It would have been a murder if he had told the truth, but since he lied, it turned out to be an attempted murder. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 104 Registered: 9-2007 |
@Alanlin Did he purposely lie on his tax return? Yes If so, specifically because he knew it would save his own life? Not at all His would-be murderers: one person? This one several people? someone he knew? No Is he trying to conceal his identity? The would-be murderer? Not particularly. | ||
| Elness (Elness)
New member Username: Elness Post Number: 2 Registered: 9-2007 |
Did the would-be murderer know that he lied on his taxes before the murder attempt? If not, did the would-be murderer know he lied after the attempt? Did the would-be murderer know that the murder attempt failed? Did the liar know that there would be an attempt on his life prior to lying on his taxes? Did he know that there had been an attempt on his life after the fact? How was the murder attempted or to be attempted?: Gun or other projectile-firing weapon? Knife or other sharp stabbing/cutting weapon? Electrocution? Club, bat, or other hand-wielded blunt force trauma-inducing weapon? Explosion or fire? Poisoning or exposure to dangerous substance? Hit by car or other vehicle? Staged accident of some type? Was the liar injured in the attempt on his life? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 106 Registered: 9-2007 |
Did the would-be murderer know that he lied on his taxes before the murder attempt? No If not, did the would-be murderer know he lied after the attempt? Yes Did the would-be murderer know that the murder attempt failed? Yes Did the liar know that there would be an attempt on his life prior to lying on his taxes? No Did he know that there had been an attempt on his life after the fact? When there was an attempt on his life, he knew. Not before. How was the murder attempted or to be attempted?: Gun or other projectile-firing weapon? This one Knife or other sharp stabbing/cutting weapon? Electrocution? Club, bat, or other hand-wielded blunt force trauma-inducing weapon? Explosion or fire? Poisoning or exposure to dangerous substance? Hit by car or other vehicle? Staged accident of some type? Was the liar injured in the attempt on his life? No | ||
| Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant Post Number: 42 Registered: 9-2007 |
Ok, the tax evader = A and the would-be murderer = B B didn't know that A lied before he killed him? If yes, then A would have still survived the murder attempt had he told the truth? Was B also a tax evader? Had A told the truth, would B also be convicted? Did B find out about this only after A lied? If B had murdered A, would B have been saved from death? An arrest? Some physical harm? Or anything along these lines? Is it relevant how A escaped from death? Did A lie only to the IRS? Would it benefit B if A lied? Or if A told the truth? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 116 Registered: 9-2007 |
Ok, the tax evader = A and the would-be murderer = B B didn't know that A lied before he killed him? FA If yes, then A would have still survived the murder attempt had he told the truth? N/A Was B also a tax evader? No Had A told the truth, would B also be convicted? N/A Did B find out about this only after A lied? N/A If B had murdered A, would B have been saved from death? An arrest? Some physical harm? Or anything along these lines? IRR Is it relevant how A escaped from death? Yes,(that's what this puzzle is about) Did A lie only to the IRS? He probably lied to others but not relevant to this puzzle Would it benefit B if A lied? Or if A told the truth? No, to both Rephrase your questions if it's still not clear. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 652 Registered: 11-2003 |
So B tried to shoot A. Right? But somehow A escaped death because he had lied on his tax forms? Did A buy something with the extra money he got from not paying all his taxes? And this something averted the bullet? Or was some person present at the scene that wouldn't have been there if A had told the truth in the first place? Oh, did B actually fire on A? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 122 Registered: 9-2007 |
So B tried to shoot A. Right? yes But somehow A escaped death because he had lied on his tax forms? Yes Did A buy something with the extra money he got from not paying all his taxes? IRR And this something averted the bullet? IRR Or was some person present at the scene that wouldn't have been there if A had told the truth in the first place? YES! Oh, did B actually fire on A? No | ||
| Elness (Elness)
New member Username: Elness Post Number: 10 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was the third person an IRS auditor/agent? A police officer/detective/other criminal justice agent? Was the third person mistaken as the would-be victim? Was the third person injured or killed during the attempt? Was the would-be murderer caught after the attempt? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 124 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was the third person an IRS auditor/agent? YES!A police officer/detective/other criminal justice agent? Was the third person mistaken as the would-be victim? No Was the third person injured or killed during the attempt? No Was the would-be murderer caught after the attempt? YES! Almost done! | ||
| Elness (Elness)
New member Username: Elness Post Number: 14 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was the would-be victim at home during the attempt? If yes, was the would-be murderer also there during the attempt (or just within shooting range)? Is it relevant who got there first? If both the would-be victim and would-be murderer are in the home during the attempt, was the IRS agent visiting the home unannounced to perform a tax audit, and interrupt the crime? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 659 Registered: 11-2003 |
Do we have to find out WHY B wants to kill A? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 125 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was the would-be victim at home during the attempt? Yes If yes, was the would-be murderer also there during the attempt Yes (or just within shooting range)? Is it relevant who got there first? A was at home, B broke into A's house to kill him If both the would-be victim and would-be murderer are in the home during the attempt, was the IRS agent visiting the home unannounced to perform a tax audit, and interrupt the crime? YES! That's most of it. Only thing left is to find out ... Do we have to find out WHY B wants to kill A? Yes! | ||
| Elness (Elness)
New member Username: Elness Post Number: 16 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is B's motive for murder related to: Money/finance/business? Love/romance/jealousy? Revenge/grudge? Politics/government? Religion/faith/morality? Racism/prejudice? Certain action/inaction on A's part? Intent to prevent a certain action on A's part? Intent to provoke/prevent a certain action from someone other than A? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 128 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is B's motive for murder related to: Money/finance/business? Love/romance/jealousy? This one, explore Revenge/grudge? Politics/government? Religion/faith/morality? Racism/prejudice? Certain action/inaction on A's part? Intent to prevent a certain action on A's part? Intent to provoke/prevent a certain action from someone other than A? | ||
| Elness (Elness)
New member Username: Elness Post Number: 18 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was A romantically involved with someone who B was in love with? Was A being unknowingly stalked by B? Was B jealous of some aspect of A's life/situation? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 130 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was A romantically involved with someone who B was in love with? No Was A being unknowingly stalked by B? YES!! Was B jealous of some aspect of A's life/situation? No I think that's about enough for a ... ***********SPOILER************ A famous Hollywood actor tries to evade paying his taxes, but gets caught in the process. The IRS plans a surprise raid of his house to ascertain the value of the undeclared assets. Chance have it, the IRS burst into his house just when a woman who had been obsessively stalking the actor was about to shoot him dead. Crime pays huh? Hope you enjoyed this little puzzle...gratz Elness for nailing it! | ||
| Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant Post Number: 58 Registered: 9-2007 |
Ahh... Movie material, I must say :-) | ||
| Elness (Elness)
New member Username: Elness Post Number: 20 Registered: 9-2007 |
Indeed. That was quite fun -- thanks for the puzzle! |
