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Carl takes his mother and his wife to the theater to watch a play. When they arrive, Carl and his mother enter first, then Carl goes back outside and enters the theater together with his wife. Why don't all three of them enter together?
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Is Carl involved with the play in any way, and is not using the main entrance?

Are all three able-bodied?
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Is Carl involved with the play in any way, and is not using the main entrance? Incorrect

Are all three able-bodied? No
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Is Carl able bodied? Is his mother? His wife?
Is anyone in a wheelchair?
Blind?
Are they entering in the dark, and Carl is blind and therefore leading his mother and wife to their seats as he has no problem finding his way around in the dark?
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Hi Torgeir - I'd add a question but John has such excellent ones I'll just bide a wee...
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Is Carl able bodied? Yes
Is his mother? No
His wife? Yes
Is anyone in a wheelchair? Yes
Blind? No
Are they entering in the dark, and Carl is blind and therefore leading his mother and wife to their seats as he has no problem finding his way around in the dark? Not this

Hi, Tim and John. I'd all but forgotten how sharp the people on this forum are, but it's coming back quickly
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So Carl wheels his mother in, and to her spot, and then returns outside in order to accompany his wife inside. Correct?
Will all three be seated in the same area?
Is there something that prevented his wife entering with them?
Or did she elect to wait outside?
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Is the door not wide enough?
Is it relevant where their seats are? Anything about the design of the theatre relevant?
Might Carl have to do this at a cinema? at a football match? at a rock concert?
"they" = Carl and his mother and his wife?
Is it just that his wife wasn't there yet when he and his mother arrived?
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would it be possible for Carl's wife to enter with his mother first, and then go back to enter with Carl?
Would it be possible for Carl to enter with his wife first and then go back for his mother?
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Is it like that river crossing puzzle?
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Suido:
So Carl wheels his mother in, and to her spot, and then returns outside in order to accompany his wife inside. Correct? Yes
Will all three be seated in the same area? Irrelevant
Is there something that prevented his wife entering with them? Yes
Or did she elect to wait outside? Yesish

John:
Is the door not wide enough? Door widths are not an issue
Is it relevant where their seats are? No
Anything about the design of the theatre relevant? No
Might Carl have to do this at a cinema?
at a football match?
at a rock concert? The principle would work with all of these
"they" = Carl and his mother and his wife? Yes
Is it just that his wife wasn't there yet when he and his mother arrived? No, they arrived together

would it be possible for Carl's wife to enter with his mother first, and then go back to enter with Carl? No
Would it be possible for Carl to enter with his wife first and then go back for his mother? No

Deathateaster:
Is it like that river crossing puzzle? If it's the same type of river crossing puzzle that I know about, then no.
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Does the wife buy the popcorn in the assurance that a good seat is available for her regardless of how long she has to wait in the queue?
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Does Carl push his mother's wheelchair? Relevant?
Is there anything unusual about the wheelchair? Anything unusual about Carl?
Would it be possible for me to go along to the theatre with Carl's wife and mother, and then enter first with his mother and go back for his wife?
Is Carl's job relevant? Does he work at the theatre?
Just to be sure - it is his mother that's in the wheelchair, right?
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Do they purchase three tickets?

(The first thing I thought when I read the puzzle statement is that they only purchase two tickets. Carl and his mother enter the theater, then Carl leaves with both ticket stubs, giving one to his wife, then they go back in with both ticket stubs, pretending they both bought tickets.)
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Lynne:

Does the wife buy the popcorn in the assurance that a good seat is available for her regardless of how long she has to wait in the queue? No

John:
Does Carl push his mother's wheelchair? Yes
Relevant? Not particularly
Is there anything unusual about the wheelchair? No
Anything unusual about Carl? Well, he is fluent in 8 languages, but apart from that, no.
Would it be possible for me to go along to the theatre with Carl's wife and mother, and then enter first with his mother and go back for his wife? Yes
Is Carl's job relevant? No
Does he work at the theatre? No
Just to be sure - it is his mother that's in the wheelchair, right? Yes
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Do they purchase three tickets? Yes

(The first thing I thought when I read the puzzle statement is that they only purchase two tickets. Carl and his mother enter the theater, then Carl leaves with both ticket stubs, giving one to his wife, then they go back in with both ticket stubs, pretending they both bought tickets.) Good thinking, but no :-)
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Did his wife have to park their car after getting his mother out just outside the theatre?
Did Carl have all the tickets in his pocket and have to return to give his wife hers?
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Is anything about the location of the seats relevant? Are there any steps? a lift?
If Carl's mother had an electric wheelchair, would the puzzle work?
Would it be possible for Carl's mother to push herself to her seat alone, and then wait a while for Carl and his wife to enter?
Would it be possible for all three of them to enter together if they just waited until the time when Carl and his wife enter?
If Carl told the theatre manager about his two trips, would they be annoyed?
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Did his wife have to park their car after getting his mother out just outside the theatre? No
Did Carl have all the tickets in his pocket and have to return to give his wife hers? No

Is anything about the location of the seats relevant? Are there any steps? a lift? All no
If Carl's mother had an electric wheelchair, would the puzzle work? Yes
Would it be possible for Carl's mother to push herself to her seat alone, and then wait a while for Carl and his wife to enter? No, or only with more difficulty than necessary.
Would it be possible for all three of them to enter together if they just waited until the time when Carl and his wife enter? No
If Carl told the theatre manager about his two trips, would they be annoyed? No
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does it have to do with the time it would take to get his mother into the seat? I am thinking that Carl would bring his mother in, get her into the seat, and then have to take the wheelchair somewhere to stow...

are Carl's mother and his wife at odds with each other? do they need Carl as a buffer? If so, would they be angry about being left alone with each other while Carl takes care of the wheelchair?

At the end of the performance, does Carl take his mother first, get her situated in the car, and then come back for his wife? or do all three leave together?

on another route:
is the aisle to small to allow Carl, his mother and the wheelchair, and his wife at the same time?
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just to make sure it is not a distraction, is the wheelchair relevant?

is there any more to reveal in the properies of the 3 characters?
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does it have to do with the time it would take to get his mother into the seat? I am thinking that Carl would bring his mother in, get her into the seat, and then have to take the wheelchair somewhere to stow... Not this

are Carl's mother and his wife at odds with each other?
do they need Carl as a buffer?
If so, would they be angry about being left alone with each other while Carl takes care of the wheelchair? No to these

At the end of the performance, does Carl take his mother first, get her situated in the car, and then come back for his wife? This is a probable scenario
or do all three leave together? Noish

on another route:
is the aisle to small to allow Carl, his mother and the wheelchair, and his wife at the same time? No, the aisle is more than wide enough


just to make sure it is not a distraction, is the wheelchair relevant? It is relevant, yes

is there any more to reveal in the properties of the 3 characters? I'd say yes, though with possible reservations as to exactly what you would call consider to be "properties of a character"
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objects? possessions? descriptions? conditions?
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objects? Yes possessions? Yes descriptions? conditions? Both no
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of...
Carl's?
the mother's?
the wife's?

something carried by hand?
something attached to a body?
alive? visible?
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of...
Carl's?
the mother's?
the wife's? This

something carried by hand?
something attached to a body? This
alive? No visible? Yes
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The relevant possessions: Jewelry? clothing? tatoo? false teeth? wig?
attached to the head? neck? arms? legs? torso?
piercings?

Does Carl ever push his mother's wheelchair while his wife is present?
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does carl do anything relevant with his hands when walking with his wife? anything relevant at all?
does she do anything relevant when they walk?
is her proximity to him while walking relevant? can she flank him? walk behind? in front of him?
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John:
The relevant possessions: Jewelry? clothing? This tatoo? false teeth? wig?
attached to the head? neck? arms? legs? This torso?
piercings?

Does Carl ever push his mother's wheelchair while his wife is present? Yes
68:
does carl do anything relevant with his hands when walking with his wife? Yes anything relevant at all? So yes
does she do anything relevant when they walk? No
is her proximity to him while walking relevant? No can she flank him? Yes walk behind? Yes in front of him? Yes

68's questions are answered truthfully, but they contain a serious FA, which I have exploited to the fullest.
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Does Carl carry his wife?
is door height an issue?
could Carl's wife walk into the theater alone?
could she walk into the average restaurant alone?
Does Carl's mother have legs? relevant?

is there any significant relationship between Carl's mother's condition and Carl's wife's "legwear"?
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Clothing for who? Carl? his wife? His mother?

Article of clothing:Pants, shorts,blouse, skirt, underwear, dress?Other? Is the material it is made of relevant?
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Does Carl carry his wife? Noish
is door height an issue? No
could Carl's wife walk into the theater alone? It would be difficult for her
could she walk into the average restaurant alone? Yes
Does Carl's mother have legs? relevant? Irrelevant

is there any significant relationship between Carl's mother's condition and Carl's wife's "legwear"? Not sure exactly what you mean. I'd say no. "Legwear" is imprecise. Maybe I should have answered no to that earlier question.
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when Carl's wife enters the theater,
are there shoes on her feet?
do her feet tread upon the ground?
does she take steps?
do her legs advance her feet?
does she have a problem balancing?

can carl's wife jog? jump? breakdance? cartwheel?
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when Carl's wife enters the theater,
are there shoes on her feet? Yes
do her feet tread upon the ground? No
does she take steps? No
do her legs advance her feet? No
does she have a problem balancing? No

can carl's wife jog? jump? breakdance? cartwheel? These are irrelevant
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Are Carl's wife's shoes relevant?
Is the relevant item of clothing something that most women own?
Does Carl aid his wife in some way in her entry into the theatre?
Is he in contact with her? With her shoulders? torso? legs?
Is Carl's wife's weight relevant?
Is Carl's wife able-bodied?
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do her shoes touch the ground? (assuming that ground will suffice as the surface they walk on while entering the theater)
Does Carl's wife use any prosthetics?
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You missed my question above *Sulks slightly*

If his wife was wearing something else, would they have gone in together? Does his Mom have to be sitting in a different location
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is carl's wife wearing something that makes it difficult for her to walk?
is her dress very tight (maybe one of those dresses where the bottom is very snug and she has trouble walking in it)?

i am assuming that since she is "able-bodied" then she can walk, correct?
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Are Carl's wife's shoes relevant? Yes
Is the relevant item of clothing something that most women own? Yes - shoes
Does Carl aid his wife in some way in her entry into the theatre? Yes
Is he in contact with her? No With her shoulders? torso? legs? All no
Is Carl's wife's weight relevant? No
Is Carl's wife able-bodied? Yes

do her shoes touch the ground?(assuming that ground will suffice as the surface they walk on while entering the theater) No
Does Carl's wife use any prosthetics? No

You missed my question above *Sulks slightly* I apologise. Those questions should be amply answered by now, however.

If his wife was wearing something else, would they have gone in together? They might
Does his Mom have to be sitting in a different location Than what?

is carl's wife wearing something that makes it difficult for her to walk? Yope
is her dress very tight (maybe one of those dresses where the bottom is very snug and she has trouble walking in it)? Not this

i am assuming that since she is "able-bodied" then she can walk, correct? Correct
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Is Carl's wife wearing high heels? Is it relevant what her shoes are made out of?
Does Carl walk in front of his wife? behind? at her side? relevant?
Does Carl say anything relevant whilst entering the theatre with his wife?
Does his wife propel herself to her seat in any way? Does Carl propel her?
Does he push her in his mother's wheelchair?
Are her heels so painful she doesn't *want* to walk in them?
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Is Carl's wife wearing high heels? Yes
Is it relevant what her shoes are made out of? No
Does Carl walk in front of his wife? behind? This at her side? relevant? Two scenarios are possible. In one of them, it is relevant.
Does Carl say anything relevant whilst entering the theatre with his wife? No
Does his wife propel herself to her seat in any way? Yesish Does Carl propel her? "yope" or "no" according to which scenario we choose. Henceforth, let's go for "yope".
Does he push her in his mother's wheelchair? Yes(ish)
Are her heels so painful she doesn't *want* to walk in them? Not this
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Can what is on Carl's wife's feet be purchased at a common ladies shoe store?
is there something tangible between wife's shoes and the ground?
is carl between wife's shoes and the ground?

Is Carl's wife verticle? horizontal? sitting?squatting? doubled over? upside down? entering the theater?
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Does Carl's wife sit in his mother's wheelchair at some point in the course of this puzzle? On the way to her seat?
Does she push it herself? Does Carl push it?
Are Carl's wife's high heels uncomfortable? is she used to walking in high heels? Does she wear them on her way to the seat? Whilst sat in the seat?
Is the scenario in which Carl yopeishly propels his wife to her seat the same as the one in which it's relevant that he walks behind her?
Is there a discrepancy here:
Does Carl propel her? "yope" or "no"
Does he push her in his mother's wheelchair? "Yes(ish)"

Is the "ish" because he doesn't push her?
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Did a heel break off one of her shoes? Did anything relevant happen on the way to the theater?
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Meh. Look at my October 1st post
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Can what is on Carl's wife's feet be purchased at a common ladies shoe store? Absolutely
is there something tangible between wife's shoes and the ground? At one time, yes
is carl between wife's shoes and the ground? No. You have a vivid imagination :-)

Is Carl's wife verticle? Vertical? At one time, yes horizontal? sitting? At one time, yes squatting? doubled over? upside down? entering the theater? At one time, yes. No to the others.

Does Carl's wife sit in his mother's wheelchair at some point in the course of this puzzle? Yes
On the way to her seat? This needs further specification. Yope.
Does she push it herself? Does Carl push it? These are the two scenarios that I mentioned. Both are possible. Let's say Carl pushes it.
Are Carl's wife's high heels uncomfortable? Not particularly
is she used to walking in high heels? Yes
Does she wear them on her way to the seat? Yes
Whilst sat in the seat? Yes
Is the scenario in which Carl yopeishly propels his wife to her seat the same as the one in which it's relevant that he walks behind her? Yes
Is there a discrepancy here:
Does Carl propel her? "yope" or "no"
Does he push her in his mother's wheelchair? "Yes(ish)" You be the judge. This should be cleared up by now.
Is the "ish" because he doesn't push her? Correct

Did a heel break off one of her shoes? No
Did anything relevant happen on the way to the theater? No

Meh. Look at my October 1st post Um. Well. Again, this is now cleared up - we're talking about the wife's shoes.
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During the period when Carl pushes his mother's wheelchair to the seat (with his mother in it), is his wife seated? in the car? standing?
When Carl gets back, does he have his mother's wheelchair? Does his wife sit in it immediately? Does she do anything relevant whilst Carl is pushing his mother to her seat? When he gets back?
Does she use the chair to get from wherever she waited for Carl to her seat?
Does his wife suffer any pain at any point in this puzzle?
Are her high heels a normal pair of high heels? Would these work?
If they had a spare wheelchair, might all three have entered together?

Has Carl's wife ever walked anywhere in the heels she's wearing this night? Might she walk somewhere in the future?
Does she walk anywhere during the time that they're in the theatre?
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Oh oops, sorry about that.

Are they hard to walk in? Would his wife like walking in them?
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During the period when Carl pushes his mother's wheelchair to the seat (with his mother in it), is his wife seated? in the car? standing? This
When Carl gets back, does he have his mother's wheelchair? Yes
Does his wife sit in it immediately? Yes
Does she do anything relevant whilst Carl is pushing his mother to her seat? No
When he gets back? Apart from sit in the chair? No
Does she use the chair to get from wherever she waited for Carl to her seat? Yope
Does his wife suffer any pain at any point in this puzzle? No
Are her high heels a normal pair of high heels? Yes
Would these work? So yes
If they had a spare wheelchair, might all three have entered together? Yes

Has Carl's wife ever walked anywhere in the heels she's wearing this night? Irrelevant. She could have, yes, apart from the fact that most women hate to be seen in the same clothing twice.
Might she walk somewhere in the future? Yes. Apart from the fact that... etc.
Does she walk anywhere during the time that they're in the theatre? Yes

Are they hard to walk in? The shoes? Noish Would his wife like walking in them? Yes
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does she have trouble walking in the theater because of stairs? does the floor slope down at such an angle that she would have trouble in her heels?
important what type/size the heels are? if so, are the heels thick, thin, pencil thin?
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If Carl's wife were wearing sneakers would the puzzle work?
is it because of the wife's shoes that the wife sits in the wheelchair?

just to clarify, when I asked "is carls wife horizontal while entering the theater?" was the answer "at one time, yes"?
was there some horizontal moment in wife's trip from the car to the theater?
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does she have trouble walking in the theater because of stairs? does the floor slope down at such an angle that she would have trouble in her heels? None of these...
important what type/size the heels are? if so, are the heels thick, thin, pencil thin? Probably somewhere between thin and pencil thin

If Carl's wife were wearing sneakers would the puzzle work? No
is it because of the wife's shoes that the wife sits in the wheelchair? Yes

just to clarify, when I asked "is carls wife horizontal while entering the theater?" was the answer "at one time, yes"? No, sorry if I answered confusingly
was there some horizontal moment in wife's trip from the car to the theater? No
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Are there any lifts involved in this puzzle? any stairs? escalators? ramps?
Is there a specific part of the route from wherever she starts to her seat that Carl's wife does not want to traverse in high heels? A cattle grid?
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Are there any lifts involved in this puzzle? any stairs? escalators? ramps? None of these
Is there a specific part of the route from wherever she starts to her seat that Carl's wife does not want to traverse in high heels? Yes
A cattle grid? Not exactly, but close enough

***************** SPOILER ********************

To get from the car park to the theater, our heros had to cross a pedestrian bridge. The floor of the bridge consisted of steel grid modules, and Carl's wife did not want to cross in her high heels, which would stick in the grid openings. As the grid had a coarse surface to improve traction for people's shoes, taking off the shoes and expose her delicate nylon stockings to the grid was not an option either. So they agreed that Carl would get his mother seated first, then subsequently come back with the wheelchair and carry his wife across.

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