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Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 12:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If Carleen hadn't been in such an unusual profession, people would not have suspected her husband of having an affair. How come?
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Was her husband having an affair?
The people who suspected him - Carleen? Her friends? family? colleagues? his friends? family colleagues? neighbours?
Is it relevant where she lived?
Is it relevant only that she had an unusual profession? (ie, would Albatross trainer do?) or are some specifics of the profession relevant? Did she work on her own? With her husband? Did she work from home?
Is her husband's profession relevant?
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Was her husband having an affair? no
The people who suspected him - Carleen? no Her friends? possibly family?possibly colleagues? ditto his friends? ditto family colleagues? ditto neighbours? ditto
Is it relevant where she lived? no
Is it relevant only that she had an unusual profession? yes(ie, would Albatross trainer do? yes) or are some specifics of the profession relevant? just that it's VERY unusual Did she work on her own? irrel With her husband? irrel Did she work from home? irrel
Is her husband's profession relevant? no
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Did people think the mistress was Carleen?
or did they think he was cheating on Carleen?
was Carleen's husband seen with another who looked like a mistress?

is it relevant whether they thought he was having an affair with one person? or more than one?

are the people neighbors? colleages? friends? family?
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Did he speak to the people who suspected him? Did she?
Did he say something regarding her profession? Did she?
Did they think it was unlikely that she was actually (say) an albatross trainer, and more likely that he was having an affair?
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Does Carleen have clientele?
Does Carleen have a gender-specific clientele?
Does she travel to different sites?
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Did people think the mistress was Carleen? no
or did they think he was cheating on Carleen? yes
was Carleen's husband seen with another who looked like a mistress? yope

is it relevant whether they thought he was having an affair with one person? or more than one? yes (just one)

are the people neighbors? colleages? friends? family? could be any
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Did he speak to the people who suspected him? no Did she? no
Did he say something regarding her profession? no Did she?yesish
Did they think it was unlikely that she was actually (say) an albatross trainer, and more likely that he was having an affair? no
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Does Carleen have clientele? irrel
Does Carleen have a gender-specific clientele?irrel
Does she travel to different sites? irrel
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Are Carleen's working hours relevant? Relevant whether she is self-employed or in employment?

Is it relevant whether they have kids or not? Relevant where they live? What car they have?
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Would people assume there is a mistress based on seeing the husband with another person?
if yes, is the person Carleen?

would people assume there is a mistress based on some other information?
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Wonder why no one has pulled this up. Her job related to...
Artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
Other?
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Did people think that the person he was having the affair with had the unusual profession that his wife actually has?
Did Carleen say something relevant to someone at some point?
Did people think that she thought that he was having an affair? That she was being fooled into thinking that he wasn't?
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Is Carleen H/A/F? Is her husband H/A/M? (Sorry, I'm from Seattle - gotta check.)

Does Carleen's job require her to wear a disguise at times? Costume? Does her husband meet her for lunch sometimes? Vice versa? Does Carleen sometimes come home, when everybody knows she should be at work, to see her husband?
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Are Carleen's working hours relevant? Relevant whether she is self-employed or in employment?

Is it relevant whether they have kids or not? Relevant where they live? What car they have? all are irrel
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Would people assume there is a mistress based on seeing the husband with another person? yope
if yes, is the person Carleen? no

would people assume there is a mistress based on some other information? yes
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Are Carleen's working hours relevant? Relevant whether she is self-employed or in employment? all are irrel
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Wonder why no one has pulled this up. Her job related to...
Artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
Other? all are irrel--it just has to be a very unusual job
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Did people think that the person he was having the affair with had the unusual profession that his wife actually has? no
Did Carleen say something relevant to someone at some point? no
Did people think that she thought that he was having an affair? no That she was being fooled into thinking that he wasn't?possibly
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Is Carleen H/A/F? yes Is her husband H/A/M? yes(Sorry, I'm from Seattle - gotta check.) Lots of non-humans in Seattle? I lived there for 3 months & found it pretty normal except that it drizzled comstantly & people seemed to care about "the environment" more than about their fellow humans

Does Carleen's job require her to wear a disguise at times? Costume? Does her husband meet her for lunch sometimes? Vice versa? Does Carleen sometimes come home, when everybody knows she should be at work, to see her husband? all are irrel
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so am I to understand based on your answer to Bentarm's question that this puzzzle statement would work just as well?....
If Carleen hadn't been an albatross trainer, people would not have suspected her husband of having an affair. How come?

do we need to know specifically what the job is?


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would people assume there is a mistress based on some other information? yes



would the other relevant info be text? video? photograph? gossip? spoken? heard?

any relevant details about where they live? would a desert island work?
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Do the people who think he's having an affair know that Carleen has an unusual job?
Do they know that he has some contact with someone who has this unusual job?
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Do the people who think he's having an affair know that Carleen has an unusual job? irrel
Do they know that he has some contact with someone who has this unusual job?possibly
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is there an HTML code that makes my text invisible? lol
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So if someone knew what Carleen's job was, would it still be possible for them to suspect her husband of having an affair for the reason involved in the puzzle?
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was carleen's husband having an affair?
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So if someone knew what Carleen's job was, would it still be possible for them to suspect her husband of having an affair for the reason involved in the puzzle? yes
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was carleen's husband having an affair?no
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Did people think the husband was having an affair because they thought they saw him with someone else? did they think he was having an affair because of her hours--maybe he spent time with other people instead of her? did he say something that made people think he was having an affair?

did people see carleen's husband with her but they did not know it was carleen (maybe she was disguised as part of her job), and therefore they thought he was having an affair? any of this on the right track?
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Did people think the husband was having an affair because they thought they saw him with someone else? yope did they think he was having an affair because of her hours--maybe he spent time with other people instead of her? no did he say something that made people think he was having an affair? no

did people see carleen's husband with her but they did not know it was carleen (maybe she was disguised as part of her job), and therefore they thought he was having an affair? noany of this on the right track? yope!!
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Was Carleen's husband ever seen with another women at any relevant time in this puzzle?
Was he ever seen with Carleen?

The relevance of the unusualness of the job - because people would think it was unlikely that someone would have that job? Because people would think it was unlikely that her husband would know two different people who have this unusual job? Because the unusualness affected Carleen's behaviour in some way? affected her husband's behaviour in some way? Are tax returns relevant?
Is anyone other than Carleen, her husband and the suspectors involved in this puzzle? another woman?
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Was Carleen's husband ever seen with another women at any relevant time in this puzzle? yes
Was he ever seen with Carleen? irrel

The relevance of the unusualness of the job - because people would think it was unlikely that someone would have that job? noBecause people would think it was unlikely that her husband would know two different people who have this unusual job? no Because the unusualness affected Carleen's behaviour in some way? noaffected her husband's behaviour in some way? yes Are tax returns relevant? no
Is anyone other than Carleen, her husband and the suspectors involved in this puzzle? yes another woman? yes
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This other woman; is she a colleague of Carleen? if not, is she there because of Carleen's job? do we have to find out what her job is?
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This other woman; is she a colleague of Carleen?no or noish if not, is she there because of Carleen's job? no do we have to find out what her job is? no
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If it wasn't for the unusualness of Carleen's job, would her husband have never met the other woman? have met the other woman under different circumstances?
Is it relevant where he met the other woman? at home
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If it wasn't for the unusualness of Carleen's job, would her husband have never met the other woman? no have met the other woman under different circumstances? no
Is it relevant where he met the other woman?yes at home? unlikely
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sorry, these questions were badly worded (and English is a difficult language for dealing with negative questions):
If it wasn't for the unusualness of Carleen's job, would her husband have met the other woman? Assuming so, would he have met her under different circumstances?
When he met the other woman, was it just him and the other woman present? Did he meet her in secret? Did he conceal his meetings with her from his wife?
Is it relevant that unusual jobs might be newsworthy? was the other woman a reporter?
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sorry, these questions were badly worded (and English is a difficult language for dealing with negative questions):
If it wasn't for the unusualness of Carleen's job, would her husband have met the other woman? yes Assuming so, would he have met her under different circumstances? no
When he met the other woman, was it just him and the other woman present? no Did he meet her in secret? no Did he conceal his meetings with her from his wife? no
Is it relevant that unusual jobs might be newsworthy? no was the other woman a reporter? no
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Would her husband have behaved differently when with the other woman if Carleen had a different job? have met her more often? at a different time? in a different place?
Is it relevant where Carleen works? Is the other woman's job relevant?
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BLLLLOOOOPERRALERTTTTTTTTTTT!
Did he speak to the people who suspected him? no Did she? no
Did he say something regarding her profession? no The answer should be yes Did she?yesish


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Would her husband have behaved differently when with the other woman if Carleen had a different job? yes have met her more often? no at a different time? no in a different place? no
Is it relevant where Carleen works? no Is the other woman's job relevant? yes
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does the other woman's job require her to interact with Carleen in any way? with her husband? is she working when they meet?
Did they meet more than once? twice? three times? five times? 10? 50? 100? over the course of a few days? a week? a month? a year?
Would her husband have said different things to the other woman if Carleen had had a different job?
Did the other woman think Carleen's husband was having an affair with her? that he wanted to?
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does the other woman's job require her to interact with Carleen in any way? no with her husband? no is she working when they meet? no
Did they meet more than once? no twice? three times? five times? 10? 50? 100? over the course of a few days? a week? a month? a year?
Would her husband have said different things to the other woman if Carleen had had a different job? yes
Did the other woman think Carleen's husband was having an affair with her? no that he wanted to? no
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Did Carleen's husband tell the other woman something about Carleen's job? tell her what it was?
When her husband spoke to the other woman, was Carleen at work? relevant?
Was the other woman a relative of carleen? of her husband? a friend of either?
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Did Carleen's husband tell the other woman something about Carleen's job? yes tell her what it was? yes
When her husband spoke to the other woman, was Carleen at work? possibly relevant? no
Was the other woman a relative of carleen? no of her husband? no a friend of either? no
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Did the other woman react in some way to hearing about Carleen's job? was she surprised? Did Carleen's husband have to explain anything to her?
Did Carleen's husband say anything else relevant to the other woman other than what Carleen's job is?
Is it relevant why Carleen's husband met the other woman? Did she live nearby? Did she have any connection with Carleen? With her husband? Had they met before? Will they ever meet again? Were they complete strangers?
Did they touch each other at any point? Did the other woman say anything relevant?
Did anyone overhear the conversation between Carleen's husband and the other woman?
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Did the other woman react in some way to hearing about Carleen's job? yes was she surprised? yes Did Carleen's husband have to explain anything to her no
Did Carleen's husband say anything else relevant to the other woman other than what Carleen's job is? yes
Is it relevant why Carleen's husband met the other woman? noish Did she live nearby? irrel Did she have any connection with Carleen? noWith her husband? noish Had they met before? noWill they ever meet again? irrel Were they complete strangers? yes
Did they touch each other at any point? noDid the other woman say anything relevant? yes
Did anyone overhear the conversation between Carleen's husband and the other woman? yes
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Did the other woman have the same job as Carleen? An equally unusual job? Did the other woman want to have the same job as Carleen? Are any specifics of the other woman's job relevant? Was it an unusual job?
Could this meeting have taken place: inside? outisde? on a train? on a plane? at a bus-stop? in a supermarket? in a bar? at a church fete? in the street? at a wedding? at a funeral?
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Did the other woman have the same job as Carleen? yes An equally unusual job? see previous answerDid the other woman want to have the same job as Carleen? irrel Are any specifics of the other woman's job relevant? yes Was it an unusual job? yes
Could this meeting have taken place: inside? yes outisde? yes on a train? yeson a plane? yes at a bus-stop? yesin a supermarket? yes in a bar? yesat a church fete? yesin the street? yes at a wedding? yesat a funeral? yes
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So the situation is something like the following: Carleen's husband meets a woman, a stranger, and gets into a conversation with her?
Is it relevant how they meet? Just ordinary meeting between strangers? Something happens? he bumps into her? she bumps into him? he spills something on her? she spills something on him?

He tells her "My wife is an albatross trainer (or whatever it is)"? He says "My wife has a very unusual job"?
And the other woman responds in some way? She says "oh, I have that job too"? something more specific? Does she somehow imply that Carleen's husband is her husband?
Did the other people overhear the whole conversation? Just what Carleen's husband said? Just what the other woman said?
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So the situation is something like the following: Carleen's husband meets a woman, a stranger, and gets into a conversation with her? yes
Is it relevant how they meet?not really, as long as there's a chance for conversation Just ordinary meeting between strangers? possibly Something happens? nothing relevsant except the conversation he bumps into her? irrel she bumps into him? dittohe spills something on her? ditto she spills something on him? ditto

He tells her "My wife is an albatross trainer (or whatever it is)"?possibly He says "My wife has a very unusual job"? eventually the specific job would have to be mentioned
And the other woman responds in some way? yes--or she could have mentioned her job firstShe says "oh, I have that job too"? yes something more specific? noDoes she somehow imply that Carleen's husband is her husband? no
Did the other people overhear the whole conversation? noJust what Carleen's husband said? noJust what the other woman said? yesish
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Did other people only overhear part of what the other woman said?
Did she say any relevant specific sentence?
If the entire conversation was just "hi, my names Marcelo, my wife Carleen is an albatross trainer" "oh, that's odd, I'm an albatross trainer too", would this puzzle work?
Is the other woman married? relevant?
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Did other people only overhear part of what the other woman said? yes
Did she say any relevant specific sentence? yes
If the entire conversation was just "hi, my names Marcelo, my wife Carleen is an albatross trainer" "oh, that's odd, I'm an albatross trainer too", would this puzzle work? no
Is the other woman married? irrel relevant? no
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Is the relevance of Carleen's job being unusual that that means it is more likely to come upo in conversation? That that means it is less likely for the other woman to have the same job? If the exact same conversation had occurred buy you replaced the words "albatross trainer" (or whatever) with "doctor" or "civil servant", could the puzzle work?
Did the listeners hear the name of the job mentioned? If no, would they have still thought he was having an affair if they had heard it mentioned?
If the listeners had heard any of what Carleen's husband said, would they still have thought it? If they had listened to all of what the woman said, would they have thought it? Did they hear her correctly, or mishear something?
The relevant specific sentence, was it the other woman commenting on how coincidental it was for them to share a job? Was it her commenting on what her job was? Did she mention Carleen in the specific sentence? Mention Carleen's husband?
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Is the relevance of Carleen's job being unusual that that means it is more likely to come upo in conversation?no That that means it is less likely for the other woman to have the same job? yes If the exact same conversation had occurred buy you replaced the words "albatross trainer" (or whatever) with "doctor" or "civil servant", could the puzzle work? no
Did the listeners hear the name of the job mentioned? no If no, would they have still thought he was having an affair if they had heard it mentioned? no
If the listeners had heard any of what Carleen's husband said, would they still have thought it? depends on what they heard If they had listened to all of what the woman said, would they have thought it? noDid they hear her correctly yes, or mishear something? no
The relevant specific sentence, was it the other woman commenting on how coincidental it was for them to share a job? yope--you're very ORT (on the right track) Was it her commenting on what her job was? yope Did she mention Carleen in the specific sentence? yes Mention Carleen's husband? yes
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Did she say something that implied Carleen's husband should keep something secret from his wife?
That he should tell his wife something?
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Did she say something that implied Carleen's husband should keep something secret from his wife? no
That he should tell his wife something? yes
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Did she say he should tell his wife that she has the same job? Because Carleen might find it interesting? Did it sound like she was telling him he should confess the affair to Carleen? Something like "You should tell your wife about me"?
Could this possibly work if Carleen's husband had found another strange link between Carleen and the other woman? Or does it only work with a job?
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Did she say he should tell his wife that she has the same job? yes--but find out JUST how she put it!!! Because Carleen might find it interesting? presumably Did it sound like she was telling him he should confess the affair to Carleen? yes Something like "You should tell your wife about me"? You're very ORT--what shje said was even better than that!!
Could this possibly work if Carleen's husband had found another strange link between Carleen and the other woman? yes, in fact the anecdote I got thisd from involved a shared & unusual first name, not a job Or does it only work with a job? no
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Did the other woman talk about how she shared something with Carleen (her job), but the listeners thought she was referring to sharing a man? Did what she said begin with "You should tell your wife"? "You have to tell your wife"? "I want you to tell her wife"? Could it logically have started with any of those phrases and still work?
"You should tell your wife you met me"? "Tell her you saw me"? "Tell her you found me"?
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Did the other woman talk about how she shared something with Carleen (her job), but the listeners thought she was referring to sharing a man? no Did what she said begin with "You should tell your wife"? "You have to tell your wife"? "I want you to tell her wife"? Could it logically have started with any of those phrases and still work? Yes, but what she said was better
"You should tell your wife you met me"? no "Tell her you saw me"? no "Tell her you found me"? You're VERY CLOSE
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"Tell her we found each other"? Or "I'm glad we found each other...you should tell your wife"?
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'Tell her you found someone else.'
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"Tell her we found each other"? no Or "I'm glad we found each other...you should tell your wife"? no
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'Tell her you found someone else.' yes!!

********* SPOILER *************
Carleen has a very unusual job (albatross trainer??). One day at a party, her husband met a woman with the same job. Both were amused, & upon saying goodbye, the woman added. "And don't forget to tell your wife you've found someone else!" which of course made those who overheard think he was having an affair. This is adapted from an anecdote I read by a man whose wife had an unusual first name. You know where my new puzzle is.

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