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Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1330 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:01 pm: |      |
They imagine ruling when they should focus on riding! |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 802 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:05 pm: |      |
They = police officers? Some other public servant? They H?A?M? They=they Riding refer to riding on actual living horses? In a vehicle? relevant what kind? Number of "they" relevant? True story? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1332 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:12 pm: |      |
They = police officers? Some other public servant? Noish to both They H?A?M? All Human / Some Adult / Some Male They=they Yes Riding refer to riding on actual living horses? Yes In a vehicle? relevant what kind? Number of "they" relevant? Yes True story? Yes |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet
Post Number: 1086 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:30 pm: |      |
Does this refer to knights? Good guys? Bad guys? Do they have a tendency to fall of their horses? If so... Is their armor to blame? Their riding skill? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1334 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:35 pm: |      |
Does this refer to knights? Noish Good guys? Noish Bad guys? Noish Do they have a tendency to fall off their horses? No If so... Is their armor to blame? Their riding skill? |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet
Post Number: 1090 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:44 pm: |      |
Does this puzzle take place in pre-Jesus times? The middle ages? Modern era? Other? Are these riders of live of live horses... Mounties from Canada? Guards of Britain? Is their profession related to... artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Sports? Jailbird / Criminal? Religion? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1337 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 11:51 pm: |      |
Does this puzzle take place in pre-Jesus times? No The middle ages? Modern era? Other? Present Day Are these riders of live of live horses... FA Mounties from Canada? Guards of Britain? Is their profession related to... artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Sports? Jailbird / Criminal? Religion? They could have any and all of these professions |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet
Post Number: 1098 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 12:31 am: |      |
Is there something these people of mixed backgrounds could stand to learn from riding a horse? Is riding a horse actually relevant? Would this puzzle work if instead they were to learn to ride motorcycles instead? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 951 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 12:24 pm: |      |
hm... ruling... as in a king? Head of state? head of government? overlord? tyrant? Mayor? acting relevant? some kind of pageant? is this one of these "king for a day" things? In riding a horse are they imitating someone? more than one person? Do they all do it at the same time or over a period? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1340 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 1:28 pm: |      |
hm... ruling... as in a king? Head of state? head of government? overlord? tyrant? Mayor? Could be any of these acting relevant? some kind of pageant? No to both is this one of these "king for a day" things? No In riding a horse are they imitating someone? No more than one person? Do they all do it at the same time or over a period? Over a period |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1342 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 1:34 pm: |      |
Is there something these people of mixed backgrounds could stand to learn from riding a horse? Yope Is riding a horse actually relevant? Yope Would this puzzle work if instead they were to learn to ride motorcycles instead? No |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 954 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 3:44 pm: |      |
consider list posted for number of they. so riding is more important than ruling? more relevant to them than ruling? more fun? less dangerous? more dangerous? any others involved? do they do it individually or in groups?....consider number posted for groups is the length of the period relevant? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 955 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 3:46 pm: |      |
is this a one off (albeit over time) or something that gets repeated...monthly, annually, infrequently biannually? |
Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1343 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 6:59 pm: |      |
consider list posted for number of they. See if you can find the answer in a small book of the Bible - Hosea chapter 1 and verse 10 :-) so riding is more important than ruling? more relevant to them than ruling? This one more fun? less dangerous? more dangerous? any others involved? No do they do it individually or in Individually groups?....consider number posted for groups is the length of the period relevant? Noish - the period is current and extends back to an indeterminite length (but I guess it must be 100 years +) |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1344 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 7:00 pm: |      |
is this a one off (albeit over time) or something that gets repeated...monthly, annually, infrequently biannually? Repeated - probably most days, if not every day |
Bodo (Bodo)
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Post Number: 2350 Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 7:18 pm: |      |
Would "they" be the ones riding the horsies? Or would they be focusing on someone else's riding? Breed of horse relevant? Location? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1346 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 7:29 pm: |      |
Would "they" be the ones riding the horsies? FA Or would they be focusing on someone else's riding? Thisish but maybe FA Breed of horse relevant? Noish Location? No |
Lporter229 (Lporter229)
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Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 7:43 pm: |      |
Does this have anything to do with horse racing? |
Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1348 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 8:04 pm: |      |
Does this have anything to do with horse racing? Not really |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 961 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:08 pm: |      |
So they are watching something? thinking about something? listening to something? Are actual living horses present? relevant(beyond the definition of riding)? trooping the colour? horse-guards parade? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1353 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 4:45 pm: |      |
So they are watching something? No thinking about something? Yes, in part listening to something? No Are actual living horses present? No relevant(beyond the definition of riding)? No trooping the colour? Not relevant horse-guards parade? Not relevant |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet
Post Number: 1140 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 6:10 pm: |      |
Does this have anything to do with a game? A board game? Like Warhammer 40K? With all the figurines? And while it's important to dominate your opponent, a very key component to the game is your ability to get across the field? And you can only move so fast? Wheras folks with higher skill in that department can move faster? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1357 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 9:13 pm: |      |
Does this have anything to do with a game? No A board game? Like Warhammer 40K? With all the figurines? And while it's important to dominate your opponent, a very key component to the game is your ability to get across the field? And you can only move so fast? Wheras folks with higher skill in that department can move faster? Good ideas but unfortunately they don’t apply |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 974 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 10:59 pm: |      |
thinking about... in part... so are they talking about it?thinking about many things? being interviewed? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1358 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 11:08 pm: |      |
thinking about... in part... so are they talking about it? No thinking about many things? Noish being interviewed? No |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet
Post Number: 1144 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 11:27 pm: |      |
Does this puzzle have to do with video games? national politics? Philosophy? Religion? Sports? Number of they = a great multitude... an entire town? nation? planet? Roughly the number of people who watch TV? Play video games? Are fans of football? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1359 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 8:16 am: |      |
Does this puzzle have to do with video games? national politics? Philosophy? Religion? Sports? None of these Number of they = a great multitude... an entire town? Most likely nation? Possibly planet? No Roughly the number of people who watch TV? Probably not Play video games? Possibly Are fans of football? Possibly It really is an indeterminate number |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 975 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 12:11 pm: |      |
Is there something relevant that links they? besides the ruling and riding? is a location relevant? an activity? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1361 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 1:38 pm: |      |
Is there something relevant that links they? besides the ruling and riding? Yope is a location relevant? No an activity? Yes |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1392 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 10:46 pm: |      |
RECAP True scenario They = They They = cross section of the population / an unknown figure but likely to be large Riding = on horseback While riding horses is relevant but it doesn’t really have anything to do with horse racing. No horses are present Time = present day Ruling = could be any kind of rulership Nothing to do with a game Relevant: A certain activity (They are all doing this thing individually – and not as a group) Not relevant: acting / royalty / “king for the day” / trooping the colour / guards of honour / location |
Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine
Post Number: 682 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 7:57 pm: |      |
Is posture relevant? Sitting upright? bending? writing? Mindset? Ruling by imposing one's will? as opposed to by co-operation or gentle guidance? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1397 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 8:43 pm: |      |
Is posture relevant? No bending? No writing? Yes Mindset? Yope Ruling by imposing one's will? as opposed to by co-operation or gentle guidance? No |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
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Post Number: 1207 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 11:11 pm: |      |
Is the colloquialism "Hold your Horses" relevant? Were they all being impatient? Wanting to be the president/boss/king of Siam so they could make some rule to make their lives better? |
Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1399 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 2:28 am: |      |
Is the colloquialism "Hold your Horses" relevant? No but on the right track Were they all being impatient? Wanting to be the president/boss/king of Siam so they could make some rule to make their lives better? No to these |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet
Post Number: 1211 Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 10:51 pm: |      |
Is another colloquialism relevant? A euphemism? A metaphore? Similie? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1416 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 2:02 pm: |      |
Is another colloquialism relevant? No A euphemism? No A metaphore? Yes Similie? No |
Buzzard (Buzzard)
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Post Number: 878 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 5:19 pm: |      |
Changing horses in mid-stream? Getting down off your high horse? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1419 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 7:14 pm: |      |
Changing horses in mid-stream? No Getting down off your high horse? No |
Buzzard (Buzzard)
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Post Number: 883 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 7:24 pm: |      |
Is some piece of literature relevant? (if so, a poem? a novel? a short story? a play?) |
Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1423 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 7:31 pm: |      |
Is some piece of literature relevant? (if so, a poem? a novel? a short story? a play?) Nope Maybe you will need your old buzzardly qualities to crack this one :-) |
Buzzard (Buzzard)
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Post Number: 886 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 7:41 pm: |      |
You say writing is relevant. Does that mean expression via the written word, in general? Or handwriting, in specific? If not a piece of literature, is a particular piece of writing relevant? Did "they" write something relevant? Read something relevant? Did they misinterpret something to be about ruling, when it fact it was about riding? Is it relevant that "writing" sounds a bit like "riding"? |
Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1426 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 7:46 pm: |      |
You say writing is relevant. Does that mean expression via the written word, in general? Yes Or handwriting, in specific? It could be handwriting or typewriting If not a piece of literature, is a particular piece of writing relevant? Yope - only the "metaphor" that was mentioned earlier Did "they" write something relevant? Yes - see above Read something relevant? Noish Did they misinterpret something to be about ruling, when it fact it was about riding? Exactly, Yes Is it relevant that "writing" sounds a bit like "riding"? No Excellent progress |
Buzzard (Buzzard)
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Post Number: 888 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 7:52 pm: |      |
So they misinterpreted something, but they didn't read anything relevant. Did they misinterpret something spoken? something sung? something conveyed through means other than words? Or is it just this "metaphor" that they misinterpreted? Did they use the metaphor in their own writing? To mean something about ruling, when in fact it is something about riding? It's a metaphor, but not a colloquialism? Is it a fixed sequence of words, at least? Is it relevant what language(s) they were using to communicate? English? some other specific language? Is mistranslation relevant? |
Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1428 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 7:59 pm: |      |
So they misinterpreted something, but they didn't read anything relevant. Yessish Did they misinterpret something spoken? Yes something sung? something conveyed through means other than words? No Or is it just this "metaphor" that they misinterpreted? Yes Did they use the metaphor in their own writing? Yes To mean something about ruling, when in fact it is something about riding? Yesish It's a metaphor, but not a colloquialism? Yes Is it a fixed sequence of words, at least? Yes Is it relevant what language(s) they were using to communicate? Yes English? Yes some other specific language? Is mistranslation relevant? No to both |
Buzzard (Buzzard)
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Post Number: 890 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 8:03 pm: |      |
Does the metaphor contain the word "horse"? "Horse-trading"? |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1430 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 8:06 pm: |      |
Does the metaphor contain the word "horse"? "Horse-trading"? No |
Buzzard (Buzzard)
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Post Number: 892 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 8:13 pm: |      |
Is this metaphor used mostly by speakers of USian English? UKian English? some other variant of English? Or is it common among all speakers of English? Is it often used by news reporters? Is it often used to describe the actions of politicians? (if so: while campaigning? while in office?) |
Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1432 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 8:21 pm: |      |
Is this metaphor used mostly by speakers of USian English? UKian English? I am assuming that it is used equally by both some other variant of English? Or is it common among all speakers of English? As far as I am aware - but again I am assuming - it is used by English speakers the World over Is it often used by news reporters? Probably used by them as much as, if not more than the general public Is it often used to describe the actions of politicians? No, not really (if so: while campaigning? while in office?) Interesting - probably used about them when actually in office! |
Buzzard (Buzzard)
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Post Number: 898 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 12:25 am: |      |
Does the metaphor contain 1 word? 2? 3? 4? 5? 6? more? As people use it, does it just mean "to rule"? Or does it mean some aspect of ruling? Do people ever use it correctly, to refer to riding? |
Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1435 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 6:18 pm: |      |
Does the metaphor contain 1 word? 2? 3? 4? 5? 6? more? The essential part of the metaphor is comprised of just 2 words. However the spoken phrase is usually preceded by a few additional words. As people use it, does it just mean "to rule"? Noish / sometimes Or does it mean some aspect of ruling? Noish / sometimes Do people ever use it correctly, to refer to riding? Yes (but maybe misleading)
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Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1436 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 6:20 pm: |      |
HINT It's best to think of these words as a phrase that can be used metaphorically |
Sunshine (Sunshine)
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Post Number: 704 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 11:26 am: |      |
Is any of these relevant: riding seat? the reins? the saddle? bit between teeth? spurred on? |
Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1454 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 7:50 pm: |      |
Is any of these relevant: riding seat? the reins? Yes the saddle? bit between teeth? spurred on? No to the rest |
Buzzard (Buzzard)
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Post Number: 933 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 7:59 pm: |      |
Is there some confusion between "rein" and "reign"? |
Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1457 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 8:14 pm: |      |
Is there some confusion between "rein" and "reign"? Yes indeed! |
Buzzard (Buzzard)
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Post Number: 936 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 8:16 pm: |      |
rein in? free rein? |
Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1458 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 8:17 pm: |      |
rein in? free rein? That's the one! |
Buzzard (Buzzard)
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Post Number: 938 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 8:19 pm: |      |
People mistakenly write "free rein" as "free reign"? Is there anything else we need to find out? |
Beroean (Beroean)
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Post Number: 1459 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 8:34 pm: |      |
People mistakenly write "free rein" as "free reign"? That's it exactly! Is there anything else we need to find out? No - that's it *********************************** SPOILER ************************* Apparently the majority of people who use the well known phrase "free rein" when writing, spell the word "rein" incorrectly. They spell it as "reign", thinking that the principle to "have free rein" or to be "given free rein" is all about the principle of of having rulership. Of course it is perfectly understandable because "rein" and "reign" are phoenetically identical and to be given "free rein" is not a million miles away in its meaning, from being given "free reign"! However for the sake of maintaining accuracy perhaps they should stick to "carte blanche" instead! Well done Buzzard and also dlcygnet and Sunshine in particular |
Buzzard (Buzzard)
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Post Number: 945 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 9:10 pm: |      |
Well done Sunshine indeed. I was running out of ideas until she mentioned "reins" |